June 2021 - OvmsDev - Open Vehicles

Netmanager priority issue solved
by Michael Balzer 05 Jul '23

05 Jul '23

TL;DR: you need to pull my latest esp-idf changes. I've finally found & solved the strange priority changes for our netmanager task (i.e. being raised suddenly from origin 5 to 18/22): the bug was in the esp-idf posix threads mutex implementation. I had suspected the mutex priority inheritance for a while, so added a way to retrieve the internal mutex hold count for our task list. Using this I noticed the hold count would always & only raise by 2 whenever any kind of mongoose connection was closed. That lead me to checking the thread concurrency protection for mongoose mbufs, because every mongoose connection has two mbufs associated (rx & tx), each having a posix mutex. The bug was: posix mutexes were deleted after locking (taking) them. FreeRTOS mutexes must not be deleted while being taken, that breaks the priority inheritance (more precisely the disinheritance), with the visible effect being the mutex hold count not returning to zero. As a side effect, this may also solve the strange event task starvations (hope so…). I was investigating this as I suspected some busy loop in the netmanager context. With the netman running at prio 22, that would effectively block almost all other processing including the timer service. I've found & fixed one potential busy loop trigger in the netman that would have been caused by the netman task still running while all interfaces had been lost -- not sure if that could happen, but it would explain the effects. So please watch your crash debug info & report if the issue still turns up. Regards, Michael -- Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26

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IOS app reported GSM signal strength
by Craig Leres 17 Oct '22

17 Oct '22

I've noticed for awhile but never asked the question; why does the IOS app report wifi signal strength when I'm connected to wifi as gsm signal strength? I would expect gsm to always be gsm and maybe wifi would also be shown (and identified as such) when present. Note that I run my modules in wifi client-only mode. Craig

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TLS CA question
by Stephen Casner 29 Jan '22

29 Jan '22

I find that I need to enable the following option in my testing of the possible replacement of MEDTLS with WolfSSL, otherwise I get an "ASN no signer to confirm" error: WOLFSSL_ALT_CERT_CHAIN allows CA's to be presented by peer, but not part of a valid chain. Default wolfSSL behavior is to require validation of all presented peer certificates. This also allows loading intermediate CA's as trusted and ignoring no signer failures for CA's up the chain to root. The alternate certificate chain mode only requires that the peer certificate validate to a trusted CA. Is that expected for the trust arrangements we are using? A possibly related question: do we expect the server to validate clients, or only the clients to validate the server? -- Steve

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MCP2515 driver bug?
by Mark Webb-Johnson 20 Jan '22

20 Jan '22

I’m working on an implementation of IP stack over CAN for the Tesla Roadster. IP frames are encoded as a length followed by a sequence of CAN frames, all on the same ID. This runs over a 1MHz bus, so presumably the traffic volume could be high at times. I was having problems with this running on CAN2, so tried CAN1 and it worked perfectly. Here are some simple dumps of a single PING packet (and single PING response packet): ID #111 is used to transmit an IP packet, and ID #110 is used to receive an IP packet. The special empty data frame is an acknowledgment. Using latest master branch code (3.2.016-196-g0aad1a9f/ota_1/edge (build idf v3.3.4-848-g1ff5e24b1 Jun 2 2021 09:28:58)). So, first let’s test with traffic on CAN1 (active, 1Mbps), and listening on CAN2 (listen, 1Mbps): TCPDUMP: 05:57:55.980291 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 43101, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84) 10.10.99.3 > 10.10.99.2: ICMP echo request, id 23372, seq 1, length 64 0x0000: 4500 0054 a85d 4000 4001 b832 0a0a 6303 E..T.]@.@..2..c. 0x0010: 0a0a 6302 0800 7df8 5b4c 0001 5361 b860 ..c...}.[L..Sa.` 0x0020: 19f5 0e00 0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213 ................ 0x0030: 1415 1617 1819 1a1b 1c1d 1e1f 2021 2223 .............!"# 0x0040: 2425 2627 2829 2a2b 2c2d 2e2f 3031 3233 $%&'()*+,-./0123 0x0050: 3435 3637 4567 05:57:56.436190 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 14937, offset 0, flags [none], proto ICMP (1), length 84) 10.10.99.2 > 10.10.99.3: ICMP echo reply, id 23372, seq 1, length 64 0x0000: 4500 0054 3a59 0000 4001 6637 0a0a 6302 E..T:Y..@.f7..c. 0x0010: 0a0a 6303 0000 85f8 5b4c 0001 5361 b860 ..c.....[L..Sa.` 0x0020: 19f5 0e00 0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213 ................ 0x0030: 1415 1617 1819 1a1b 1c1d 1e1f 2021 2223 .............!"# 0x0040: 2425 2627 2829 2a2b 2c2d 2e2f 3031 3233 $%&'()*+,-./0123 0x0050: 3435 3637 4567 Traffic (as shown on PC the other end of the can log tcp connection): tx: #111 54 00 tx: #111 45 00 00 54 a8 5d 40 00 tx: #111 40 01 b8 32 0a 0a 63 03 tx: #111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7d f8 tx: #111 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 tx: #111 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b tx: #111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 tx: #111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b tx: #111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 tx: #111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b tx: #111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 tx: #111 34 35 36 37 rx: #110 rx: #110 54 00 rx: #110 45 00 00 54 3a 59 00 00 rx: #110 40 01 66 37 0a 0a 63 02 rx: #110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 85 f8 rx: #110 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 rx: #110 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b rx: #110 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 rx: #110 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b rx: #110 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 rx: #110 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b rx: #110 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 rx: #110 34 35 36 37 CAN1 active: 1T11 111 54 00 1R11 110 1CER TX_Queue T11 111 40 01 b8 32 0a 0a 63 03 1T11 111 45 00 00 54 a8 5d 40 00 1T11 111 40 01 b8 32 0a 0a 63 03 1CER TX_Queue T11 111 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 1T11 111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7d f8 1T11 111 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 1CER TX_Queue T11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1T11 111 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b 1T11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1CER TX_Queue T11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1T11 111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1T11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1CER TX_Queue T11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1T11 111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1T11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1T11 111 34 35 36 37 1R11 110 54 00 1R11 110 45 00 00 54 3a 59 00 00 1R11 110 40 01 66 37 0a 0a 63 02 1R11 110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 85 f8 1R11 110 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 1R11 110 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b 1R11 110 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1R11 110 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1R11 110 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1R11 110 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1R11 110 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1R11 110 34 35 36 37 CAN2 listen: 2R11 111 54 00 2R11 110 2R11 111 45 00 00 54 a8 5d 40 00 2R11 111 40 01 b8 32 0a 0a 63 03 2R11 111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7d f8 2R11 111 5b 4c 00 01 53 61 b8 60 2R11 111 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b 2R11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 2R11 111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 2R11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 2R11 111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2R11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 2R11 111 34 35 36 37 2R11 110 54 00 2CER Error intr=10 rxpkt=14 txpkt=0 errflags=0x23401c01 rxerr=0 txerr=0 rxinval=0 rxovr=0 txovr=0 txdelay=0 txfail=0 wdgreset=0 errreset=0 2R11 110 40 01 66 37 0a 0a 63 02 2R11 110 19 f5 0e 00 08 09 0a 0b 2R11 110 34 35 36 37 2R11 110 45 00 00 54 3a 59 00 00 Conclusion is that the CAN1 traffic looks fine, and the PING packet gets a good reply. All successful. But the CAN2 listen is missing a few packets and the last packet is out of order. Now, let’s test with traffic on CAN2 (active, 1Mbps), and listening on CAN1 (listen, 1Mbps): TCPDUMP: 06:00:33.004060 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 58240, offset 0, flags [DF], proto ICMP (1), length 84) 10.10.99.3 > 10.10.99.2: ICMP echo request, id 23393, seq 1, length 64 0x0000: 4500 0054 e380 4000 4001 7d0f 0a0a 6303 E..T..@.@.}...c. 0x0010: 0a0a 6302 0800 7cc8 5b61 0001 f161 b860 ..c...|.[a...a.` 0x0020: 8b0f 0000 0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213 ................ 0x0030: 1415 1617 1819 1a1b 1c1d 1e1f 2021 2223 .............!"# 0x0040: 2425 2627 2829 2a2b 2c2d 2e2f 3031 3233 $%&'()*+,-./0123 0x0050: 3435 3637 4567 Traffic (as shown on PC the other end of the can log tcp connection): tx: #111 54 00 tx: #111 45 00 00 54 e3 80 40 00 tx: #111 40 01 7d 0f 0a 0a 63 03 tx: #111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7c c8 tx: #111 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 tx: #111 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b tx: #111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 tx: #111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b tx: #111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 tx: #111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b tx: #111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 tx: #111 34 35 36 37 rx: #110 rx: #110 54 00 rx: #110 45 00 00 54 3a 5a 00 00 rx: #110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 84 c8 rx: #110 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b rx: #110 34 35 36 37 rx: #110 40 01 66 36 0a 0a 63 02 CAN2 active: 2T11 111 54 00 2R11 110 2CER TX_Queue T11 111 40 01 7d 0f 0a 0a 63 03 2T11 111 45 00 00 54 e3 80 40 00 2T11 111 40 01 7d 0f 0a 0a 63 03 2CER TX_Queue T11 111 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 2T11 111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7c c8 2T11 111 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 2CER TX_Queue T11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 2T11 111 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 2T11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 2CER TX_Queue T11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 2T11 111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 2T11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 2CER TX_Queue T11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 2T11 111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2T11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 2T11 111 34 35 36 37 2R11 110 54 00 2R11 110 45 00 00 54 3a 5a 00 00 2CER Error intr=15 rxpkt=3 txpkt=12 errflags=0x23401c01 rxerr=0 txerr=0 rxinval=0 rxovr=0 txovr=0 txdelay=5 txfail=0 wdgreset=0 errreset=0 2R11 110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 84 c8 2R11 110 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 2R11 110 34 35 36 37 2R11 110 40 01 66 36 0a 0a 63 02 CAN1 listen: 1R11 111 54 00 1R11 110 1R11 111 45 00 00 54 e3 80 40 00 1R11 111 40 01 7d 0f 0a 0a 63 03 1R11 111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7c c8 1R11 111 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 1R11 111 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 1R11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1R11 111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1R11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1R11 111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1R11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1R11 111 34 35 36 37 1R11 110 54 00 1R11 110 45 00 00 54 3a 5a 00 00 1R11 110 40 01 66 36 0a 0a 63 02 1R11 110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 84 c8 1R11 110 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 1R11 110 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 1R11 110 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1R11 110 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1R11 110 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1R11 110 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1R11 110 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1R11 110 34 35 36 37 Conclusion is that the CAN2 transmit traffic looks fine, but no PING reply received via CAN. The CAN1 listen shows the reply just fine. Here is that last CAN1 listen, with timestamps: 1622696433.080107 1R11 111 54 00 1622696433.081657 1R11 110 1622696433.227479 1R11 111 45 00 00 54 e3 80 40 00 1622696433.228318 1R11 111 40 01 7d 0f 0a 0a 63 03 1622696433.245727 1R11 111 0a 0a 63 02 08 00 7c c8 1622696433.246214 1R11 111 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 1622696433.248219 1R11 111 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 1622696433.248772 1R11 111 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1622696433.250774 1R11 111 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1622696433.251338 1R11 111 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1622696433.253380 1R11 111 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1622696433.253944 1R11 111 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1622696433.265937 1R11 111 34 35 36 37 1622696433.269221 1R11 110 54 00 1622696433.272095 1R11 110 45 00 00 54 3a 5a 00 00 1622696433.272125 1R11 110 40 01 66 36 0a 0a 63 02 1622696433.272156 1R11 110 0a 0a 63 03 00 00 84 c8 1622696433.272193 1R11 110 5b 61 00 01 f1 61 b8 60 1622696433.272245 1R11 110 8b 0f 00 00 08 09 0a 0b 1622696433.272277 1R11 110 0c 0d 0e 0f 10 11 12 13 1622696433.272314 1R11 110 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1622696433.272354 1R11 110 1c 1d 1e 1f 20 21 22 23 1622696433.272387 1R11 110 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 1622696433.272420 1R11 110 2c 2d 2e 2f 30 31 32 33 1622696433.272452 1R11 110 34 35 36 37 It is 1Mbps, with 30us or so between each packet. This is the only traffic on the bus. Everything else is turned off. Roughly 12 packets each way. Surely even if we were hitting a performance limit, our buffers can handle 12 packets? The good news is that I have a good environment to replicate this issue now, so any fix should be easy to test. I haven’t worked on the MCP2515 driver in our code in a long time, but it certainly seems something is messed up and that could be badly affecting vehicle modules using anything other than CAN1. I will start to look at this over the weekend, but has anyone got any ideas/suggestions? Perhaps the bit timing registers are off by a small amount (so it works on CAN1 but not on CAN2)? Or something more serious in our driver? Regards, Mark.

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Re: [Ovmsdev] GPS location glitch (flatbed theft false alert)
by Craig Leres 17 Aug '21

17 Aug '21

Wow, this is a good bug; got another one today (see attached). Is there a reasonable strategy for suppressing these? I'm happy to share recent server logs offline (but I don't post them to the internet/list). Craig

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Tesla Powered RAV4 EV support
by Michael Iimura 04 Jul '21

04 Jul '21

I am planning to work on support for the Tesla Powered 2012-2014 Toyota RAV4 EV. I don't see any evidence of earlier work on Github. I have done some preliminary recon and determined that only the main Toyota CAN and Tesla CAN are needed for the desired information. Maybe K-Line for TPMS would be nice since the car won't display pressures, but the Toyota Techstream diagnostic software does. The most valuable information is on the Tesla CAN and should be similar or exactly the same as other Tesla models. I am just starting to gather hardware and software at this moment, but suggestions are welcomed. - Mike

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Re: [Ovmsdev] new member interested in Kia Soul EV preheating
by Henrik Scheel 30 Jun '21

30 Jun '21

> Regarding the 12V-draining that Henrik mentions, waking up the in-car CAN bus systems is needed to read the state of anything when the cars is off, like the door-locks, if I recall correctly. Otherwise OVMS would be completely silent and ?useless? when the car is off. I don?t know if any one has found another way around it. I will repeat the solution I suggested to Geir two and a half years ago (when we discussed the draining aux-battery issue for the old Kia Soul EV car module): Make it user selectable whether the user wants OVMS to - turn on the car regularly when off, to repeatedly read the lock state etc, all through the night; or - not turn on the car regularly, to prevent draining the Aux-battery to 5 Volts. I would suggest this choice for default. The old Kia Soul EV module has a user setting for choosing to reprogram the third FOB key to open the charge door. A new user setting for enabling the car wake-up would make the OVMS module safe to use. I still do not see the value of obtaining data from the car when it is off, and Geir did not want to let me know the reason he finds it valuable, when I asked him. I stopped using OVMS back then, and have worked on the Soul EV Spy android app instead. Best regards, Henrik Scheel

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Testing help requested on Tesla Roadster
by Stephen Casner 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

I have created a roadster-wakeup branch from master where I uploaded a fix for the problem that trying to manually start charging using the app was not effective if the car was waiting for a scheduled charge start time and was not awake. If the slider on the charge connector icon was moved to the right to start charging, the app might just move the slider back or might cause the whole charge connector icon to disappear. The solution involves issuing a wakeup command to the car and then tracking the actions the car takes before the point where it is ready to accept the command to start charging while faking the car status as presented to the app to keep it happy. I have tested this on my 2008 (AKA 1.5) Roadster, but I would appreciate corroboration from other Roadster owners, in particular with 2.x Roadsters. -- Steve

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Re: [Ovmsdev] new member interested in Kia Soul EV preheating
by Henrik Scheel 29 Jun '21

29 Jun '21

Hello Kyle. > I'm interested in trying to get some sort of pre-heating going in the Soul. > The story coming to mind: > > - As a driver, I'd like to be able to tell my Soul to start warming itself > up while connected to an EVSE, so that when I leave the house in ~30 > minutes I'll have a warm car and won't have to spend my precious 180km of > range (who are we kidding, 150 in winter) on that. > > It'd be nice to do this in the OVMS Android app somehow, but that's > negotiable. > >> From stalking this forum and Kia SOUL EV forums, people have figured out > lots of things about the Soul but not this yet somehow? Remote pre-heating has been the wet dream for Soul EV tinkerers since 2014, none succeeding by using only the usual CAN-bus, or the other CAN-bus available in the Soul OBD-II connector, to my knowledge. It might not be possible. The best shot I can think of, is to record all CAN activity on all busses, while a certified KIA garage performs a full diagnostic examination of the heating system. And then start digging in the heaps of data. I don’t know if anyone has attempted this already. See discussion: https://www.mykiasoulev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=135 And gathered info on PIDs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YYlZ-IcTQlz-LzaYkHO-7a4SFM8QYs2BGNX… I am the current maintainer of the Soul EV Spy android app, so I know a little about the Soul EV CAN bus messaging. Feel free to ask, and/or find inspiration in the code avaliable for the old, free version of the app here: https://github.com/langemand/SoulEVSpy I stopped using OVMS in the Soul, because the maintainer of the Soul car module coded it, so that under certain conditions it wakes up the in-car CAN bus systems regularly, leading to an AUX battery drained to 5 Volts, and a car that cannot start (or even unlock). I don’t know if that has been improved since then. I am open to sharing PID and other information, so just write me directly, if you want: soulspy(a)evranger.com Best regards, Henrik -- Venlig hilsen / best regards Henrik Scheel Mobil: +45 2720 9828

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Re: [Ovmsdev] Simcom 7000G
by Derek Caudwell 28 Jun '21

28 Jun '21

It is a bit of a hack using a breakout board for testing purposes. See photo attached. Looks like the unit is consistently crashing when it gets to initiating PPP connection. I'll do some more investigation on it at the weekend. On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, 8:15 pm , <ovmsdev-request(a)lists.openvehicles.com> wrote: > Send OvmsDev mailing list submissions to > ovmsdev(a)lists.openvehicles.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openvehicles.com/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ovmsdev-request(a)lists.openvehicles.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ovmsdev-owner(a)lists.openvehicles.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OvmsDev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New plugin: VW e-Up ECU Library & Toolkit (Michael Balzer) > 2. Re: Simcom 7000G (Mark Webb-Johnson) > 3. new member interested in Kia Soul EV preheating (EV Eh?) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 12:16:08 +0200 > From: Michael Balzer <dexter(a)expeedo.de> > To: ovmsdev(a)lists.openvehicles.com > Subject: [Ovmsdev] New plugin: VW e-Up ECU Library & Toolkit > Message-ID: <c060ae4b-9644-c1c1-3f89-1edb64629864(a)expeedo.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > > https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/plugin/v-vweup/ecutoolkit/README.ht… > > Probably already the largest plugin I've written so far, although it's > only version 0.5 yet? > > Help & feedback is appreciated. > > Regards, > Michael > > -- > Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal > Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 > > >

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