Sport vs Non-Sport in VIN
Looking at: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster. In particular: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12. Therefore -- 5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit. Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with. Regards, Mark.
Digit 10: B = 2011 William On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark@webb-johnson.net>wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V...
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V...
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser. Tom on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-VIN> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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Tom, We haven't found firmware version on the bus yet. It must be there (as it is visible on the vds), just not gone looking too hard yet. Anyone know how to tell a 2.5 from a 2.0? [ P.S. The answer is not "look at the front of the car" ] Regards, Mark. On 7 May, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser.
Tom
on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-VIN> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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Is there any internal difference between a 2.0 and a 2.5? I don't think I've heard anything other than improving something with the fans that cool the motor and the PEM. In the US, VINs >= 964 are 2.5, but then there are the 2.0's that got the 2.5 facelift. Tom on 5/7/12 7:00 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Tom,
We haven't found firmware version on the bus yet. It must be there (as it is visible on the vds), just not gone looking too hard yet.
Anyone know how to tell a 2.5 from a 2.0? [ P.S. The answer is not "look at the front of the car" ]
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser.
Tom
on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... N> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V IN s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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Tom, That's my understanding. A facelift, better soundproofing, and other minor stuff. I don't think the difference is detectable on the bus. Regards, Mark. On 7 May, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
Is there any internal difference between a 2.0 and a 2.5?
I don't think I've heard anything other than improving something with the fans that cool the motor and the PEM.
In the US, VINs >= 964 are 2.5, but then there are the 2.0's that got the 2.5 facelift.
Tom
on 5/7/12 7:00 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Tom,
We haven't found firmware version on the bus yet. It must be there (as it is visible on the vds), just not gone looking too hard yet.
Anyone know how to tell a 2.5 from a 2.0? [ P.S. The answer is not "look at the front of the car" ]
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser.
Tom
on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... N> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V IN s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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Mark, You can tell via the vin number as I stated above. William On May 7, 2012 9:22 AM, "Mark Webb-Johnson" <mark@webb-johnson.net> wrote:
Tom,
That's my understanding. A facelift, better soundproofing, and other minor stuff. I don't think the difference is detectable on the bus.
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
Is there any internal difference between a 2.0 and a 2.5?
I don't think I've heard anything other than improving something with the fans that cool the motor and the PEM.
In the US, VINs >= 964 are 2.5, but then there are the 2.0's that got the 2.5 facelift.
Tom
on 5/7/12 7:00 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Tom,
We haven't found firmware version on the bus yet. It must be there (as it is visible on the vds), just not gone looking too hard yet.
Anyone know how to tell a 2.5 from a 2.0? [ P.S. The answer is not "look at the front of the car" ]
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser.
Tom
on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V...
N> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport,
and a
"1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V
IN s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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Based on a sample of 3, we have: v1.5 car: *******B*81****** v2.0 car: *******1*A3****** v2.5 car: *******1*B3****** All are non-sport. So, we can use 10th digit 8=1.5, A=2.0, B=2.5. We can also use 8th digit 3=Sport B=NonSport, 1=NonSport. Workable? Regards, Mark. On 7 May, 2012, at 11:33 PM, William Petefish wrote:
Mark,
You can tell via the vin number as I stated above.
William
On May 7, 2012 9:22 AM, "Mark Webb-Johnson" <mark@webb-johnson.net> wrote: Tom,
That's my understanding. A facelift, better soundproofing, and other minor stuff. I don't think the difference is detectable on the bus.
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
Is there any internal difference between a 2.0 and a 2.5?
I don't think I've heard anything other than improving something with the fans that cool the motor and the PEM.
In the US, VINs >= 964 are 2.5, but then there are the 2.0's that got the 2.5 facelift.
Tom
on 5/7/12 7:00 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Tom,
We haven't found firmware version on the bus yet. It must be there (as it is visible on the vds), just not gone looking too hard yet.
Anyone know how to tell a 2.5 from a 2.0? [ P.S. The answer is not "look at the front of the car" ]
Regards, Mark.
On 7 May, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
You can also tell a 1.5 from a 2.x by the firmware version, 3.x.x means 1.5, 4.x.x means 2.x. That's how I do it in the log parser.
Tom
on 5/6/12 11:54 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Looking at:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V... N> s
the suggestion is that a "3" in the 8th digit would signify a sport, and a "1" would be a normal roadster.
In particular:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1128-Decoding-Tesla-Roadster-V IN s?p=50374&viewfull=1#post50374
Digits 1-3, Manufacturer: 5YJ = Tesla Digit 4, Car line: R = Roadster Digit 5, Body type: E = convertible Digit 6, Region: 1 = USA Digit 7, Restraint system: For 2008, 1 = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags For 2010, A = Type 2 seat belts and dual air bags Digit 8, Motor: For 2008, B = Tesla 56C For 2010, 1 = Tesla M6B; 3 = Tesla M6S Digit 9, Check digit: Variable according to formula Digit 10, Model year: 8 = 2008; A = 2010 Digit 11, Plant of manufacture: 1 = Menlo Park, USA Digit 12-17, Sequential production number
They additionally note that Founders' Series vehicles will have F in digit 12.
Therefore --
5YJRE11B = 2008 Roadster 5YJRE1A1 = 2010 Roadster 5YJRE1A3 = 2010 Roadster Sport
would seem to give us the ability to auto-identify a v1.5 car as a "B" in the 8th digit.
Does anyone here know if this is reliable? It would be nice to auto-detect this to have one less thing to hassle the users with.
Regards, Mark.
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