Some good news, after getting a minimum quantity quote of 100pcs from the Bulgarian distributor, I asked the Alibaba manufacturer for a 10pcs set of housings and 200 pins of each, and was actually very helpful, just quoted me a bit extra per piece. I got the connectors the other day and I'm now testing what would be the max double wire size to crimp to the pins without a problem, seems to be around 0.14-0,25mm2., I also got some AMP Multilock automotive connectors for the OVMS side of the Y cable, So it's easier to change to another CAN bus, instead of crimping a D-Sub cable directly. So if any dev in Europe with a Kona is interested, send me a message. Oscar On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:34 PM Christos Oscar Kambiselis < ckambiselis@gmail.com> wrote:
Also forgot to say that since I don't want to damage any of the original cables I am looking to make a Y-cable for the connector where all the CAN busses connect to the gateway, the connector is made by KUM (a Korean manufacturer who's website I can't reach), and who's connectors don't seem to be distributed by any of the bigger distributors I usually buy parts from (Mouser, Digikey, Farnel, TME, Elfa Distrelec) and can't even find them on Aliexpress, I did find a Chinese manufacturer on Alibaba that makes a clone but their minimum order is 200pcs 3$/pcs.
I also found a Bulgarian connector and wire harness distributor that has the originals and I'm waiting for a quote for 10pcs of male/female, there is also a US based surplus connector seller that sells them for 20$ a piece which is absurd.
The part names are HSC16M-W(GY) ASSY and HSC16F-W(GY) ASSY but the part numbers are HK111-16011 and HK115-16011, and the pins are TK101-00110 and TK105-00110.
Oscar
On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 9:29 PM Peter Lord <peter@plord.co.uk> wrote:
On 1 Feb 2023, at 17:09, Christos Oscar Kambiselis <ckambiselis@gmail.com> wrote:
I have, for my 2019 Kona Electric, the maps of the whole CAN bus network, pinouts of connectors and schematics of the wiring on PDF, these can all be found at service.hyundai-motor (dot) com, when accessed from Europe, the access costs 15€ for 24h or 60€ for a whole week, it's all official service manual info and much more for independent repair shops. I also have a couple of contactless CAN bus readers plus the direct connection to D-CAN through the OBD. My car only has the 8inch Standard Navi without the mobile data connection, but from the info I have gathered the only CAN bus connected to the larger "conected" navi is the same M-CAN that the standard version has, so the remote AC control should be possible, through M-CAN.
I’ve also got an early Kona :-)
Last time I took a look at the service site it only contained hardware details … so no PID details
I was thinking to connect the contactless readers to my logic analyzer plus one channel to a button to act as a marker, and record a known sequence of events, marking each event start with the button for easier searching. I also have access to 100kW DC fast chargers and 22kW AC chargers, including their CAN data when I have my car charging.
Okay, that sounds like it would be useful :-)
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