[Ovmsdev] Firmware size approaching 4 MB limit

Mark Webb-Johnson mark at webb-johnson.net
Wed Feb 25 09:58:37 HKT 2026


Michael,

> Only thing that was a bit odd: "ota" still showed the old layout directly after "ota partitions upgrade" (before the reboot). Probably cached, "ota partitions list" showed the new layout.

This is a simple fix. I will change tonight.

> Only thing odd with that was: "ota boot factory" failed correctly (did nothing), but did so without any error output. Not really a situation that will occur with normal users, so not really an issue.

I guess because it can no longer find the partition type ‘factory’.

Both these edge cases would not occur if a reboot was done after the partition upgrade.

> AFAICT "ota partitions upgrade" currently does not verify the system has booted from "factory" before allowing the operation -- I think that should be added as a safety measure.

I thought it did that check. Maybe not working?

  const esp_partition_t *p = esp_ota_get_running_partition();
  if ((p != NULL)&&(strcmp(p->label,"factory")!=0))
    {
    writer->puts("Error: Cannot upgrade partition table if running partition is not factory");
    return;
    }

  p = esp_ota_get_boot_partition();
  if ((p != NULL)&&(strcmp(p->label,"factory")!=0))
    {
    writer->puts("Error: Cannot upgrade partition table if boot partition is not factory");
    return;
    }

> I can take care of the web UI modifications if you like.

That would be helpful. I’m not really familiar with that code.

> OK, that's substantially more.

Here are the three partition table options:

Original (f12):

Label	Type	Subtype	Offset (Hex)	Size (Hex)	Next (Hex)	Offset (Dec)	Size (Dec)
bootloader	bootloader	bootloader	0x0000	0x8000	8000	0	32768
partition_table	partition_table	partition_table	0x8000	0x1000	9000	32768	4096
nvs	data	nvs	0x9000	0x4000	D000	36864	16384
otadata	data	ota	0xD000	0x2000	F000	53248	8192
phy_init	data	phy	0xF000	0x1000	10000	61440	4096
factory	app	factory	0x10000	0x400000	410000	65536	4194304
ota_0	app	ota_0	0x410000	0x400000	810000	4259840	4194304
ota_1	app	ota_1	0x810000	0x400000	C10000	8454144	4194304
store	data	fat	0xC10000	0x100000	D10000	12648448	1048576
*unused*			0xD10000	0x2F0000	1000000	13697024	3080192

Current (12):

Label	Type	Subtype	Offset (Hex)	Size (Hex)	Next (Hex)	Offset (Dec)	Size (Dec)
bootloader	bootloader	bootloader	0x0000	0x8000	8000	0	32768
partition_table	partition_table	partition_table	0x8000	0x1000	9000	32768	4096
nvs	data	nvs	0x9000	0x4000	D000	36864	16384
otadata	data	ota	0xD000	0x2000	F000	53248	8192
phy_init	data	phy	0xF000	0x1000	10000	61440	4096
ota_0	app	ota_0	0x10000	0x600000	610000	65536	6291456
ota_1	app	ota_1	0x610000	0x600000	C10000	6356992	6291456
store	data	fat	0xC10000	0x100000	D10000	12648448	1048576
*unused*			0xD10000	0x2F0000	1000000	13697024	3080192

Suggested (12, 7MB code, more store):

Label	Type	Subtype	Offset (Hex)	Size (Hex)	Next (Hex)	Offset (Dec)	Size (Dec)
bootloader	bootloader	bootloader	0x0000	0x8000	8000	0	32768
partition_table	partition_table	partition_table	0x8000	0x1000	9000	32768	4096
nvs	data	nvs	0x9000	0x4000	D000	36864	16384
otadata	data	ota	0xD000	0x2000	F000	53248	8192
phy_init	data	phy	0xF000	0x1000	10000	61440	4096
ota_0	app	ota_0	0x10000	0x700000	710000	65536	7340032
ota_1	app	ota_1	0x710000	0x700000	E10000	7405568	7340032
store	data	fat	0xE10000	0x1F0000	1000000	14745600	2031616

It would make sense to resize store *now* if we are going to do it, but I am wary of requiring a factory reset. Also need to double check that the unused space at the end is truly unused. I am assuming the boot loader is in the first 32KB, but haven’t actually checked.

Looking at the third (resize store) arrangement, it would be moving 0xC10000-0xD0FFFF to 0xE10000-0xFFFFFF, which doesn’t seem to overlap. I wonder what simply copy that partition over (without reformatting flash) would do? Either corrupt the filesystem, ignore the extra space, or magically have the new space available to FAT? I suspect corruption. So, there is another (more complex) alternative:
Create a 2nd fat store partition (0xE10000-0xFFFFFF)
Format and mount that as FAT
Copy files from old to new
Unmount and drop the old store
Finish the rest of the partition upgrade

I suspect #3 would be the most complex step.

Or the store move and resize could be done first as a separate step.

Thoughts? Much more complex and risky...

Regards, Mark

> On 25 Feb 2026, at 6:00 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
> 
> Tested, works like a charm -- test log below.
> 
> Only thing that was a bit odd: "ota" still showed the old layout directly after "ota partitions upgrade" (before the reboot). Probably cached, "ota partitions list" showed the new layout.
> 
> I then tried rebooting into the old build to see if doing an OTA update from there would show any issues -- nope, works perfectly, installs to the other OTA partition and boots from there. So even after the upgrade, people can still run older firmware versions and perform normal OTA updates, the partitions are identified and located correctly by their label.
> 
> Only thing odd with that was: "ota boot factory" failed correctly (did nothing), but did so without any error output. Not really a situation that will occur with normal users, so not really an issue.
> 
> AFAICT "ota partitions upgrade" currently does not verify the system has booted from "factory" before allowing the operation -- I think that should be added as a safety measure.
> 
> I can take care of the web UI modifications if you like.
> 
> Regarding the product version 3.5 to distinguish 6MB capable modules, I think that's a neat & simple solution.
> 
>> P.S. There is a possibility to do this another way to make even more flash space available, but that would mean moving the store partition right to the end of the 16MB flash, which is not so simple. Is 6MB really enough? Probably so if we can move to javascript vehicle modules, otherwise probably not (long-term).
> 
> I see what you mean… I wasn't aware there is so much space left unused now. Like this, if partition alignment constraints allow?
> 
> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size      
> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00010000 7.46875 MB (0x778000 bytes)
> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00788000 7.46875 MB (0x778000 bytes)
> store            data fat          0x00f00000 1 MB
> 
> OK, that's substantially more.
> 
> Another option would be to allocate say 7 MB to each OTA partition (or even keep them at 6 MB) and add the remaining free capacity to store.
> 
> Performing a config restore currently already fails due to lack of space when not done from a freshly cleared config, especially with some scripts & plugins installed.
> 
> With custom JS vehicles being installed to /store, that will get a bit more tight yet, and maybe JS vehicles want to use /store for some extended data storage as well. So more capacity for /store would make sense, heading in that direction.
> 
> Regards,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> OVMS# ota
> Hardware:          OVMS WIFI BLE BT cores=2 rev=ESP32/3; MODEM SIM7600
> Firmware:          3.3.005-711-g4feca695d/factory/edge (build idf v3.3.4-854-g9063c8662c Feb 24 2026 21:17:07)
> Partition type:    v3-f12 (factory, ota1, ota2)
> Partition table:   0x8000
> Running partition: factory
> Boot partition:    factory
> Factory image:     3.3.005-711-g4feca695d
> OTA_O image:       3.3.005-711-g4feca695d
> OTA_1 image:       3.3.005-704-g6a1fed98
> 
> OVMS# ota partitions list 
> Partition table:
> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size      
> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
> factory          app  factory      0x00010000 4 MB
> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00410000 4 MB
> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00810000 4 MB
> store            data fat          0x00c10000 1 MB
> Digest:          cfe36765a6bfe1b802a2abd4ec9f6851 pass
> 
> OVMS# ota partitions upgrade 
> Upgrade partition table to new format (y/n): y
> 0x00009000 Skipping over data/nvs partition
> 0x0000d000 Skipping over data/ota partition
> 0x0000f000 Skipping over data/phy partition
> 0x00010000 Converted factory partition to 6MB OTA 0
> 0x00610000 Converted OTA 0 partition to 6MB OTA 1
> 0x00c10000 Moved data/fat partition up one position
>            Recalculated MD5 checksum
>            Clearing trailing old MD5 checksum record
> Erasing old partition table (4096 bytes at 0x00008000)...
> Writing new partition table (4096 bytes at 0x00008000)...
> Partition table upgraded successfully - reboot required
> 
> OVMS# ota
> Hardware:          OVMS WIFI BLE BT cores=2 rev=ESP32/3; MODEM SIM7600
> Firmware:          3.3.005-711-g4feca695d/factory/edge (build idf v3.3.4-854-g9063c8662c Feb 24 2026 21:17:07)
> Partition type:    v3-f12 (factory, ota1, ota2)
> Partition table:   0x8000
> Running partition: factory
> Boot partition:    factory
> Factory image:     3.3.005-711-g4feca695d
> OTA_O image:       3.3.005-711-g4feca695d
> OTA_1 image:       3.3.005-704-g6a1fed98
> 
> OVMS# ota partitions list 
> Partition table:
> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size      
> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00010000 6 MB
> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00610000 6 MB
> store            data fat          0x00c10000 1 MB
> Digest:          a0d94b1efa7f6d8852b44150db218e8d pass
> 
> OVMS# module reset 
> Resetting system...
> 
> OVMS# ota
> Hardware:          OVMS WIFI BLE BT cores=2 rev=ESP32/3; MODEM SIM7600
> Firmware:          3.3.005-711-g4feca695d/ota_0/edge (build idf v3.3.4-854-g9063c8662c Feb 24 2026 21:17:07)
> Partition type:    v3-12 (ota1, ota2, no factory)
> Partition table:   0x8000
> Running partition: ota_0
> Boot partition:    ota_0
> OTA_O image:       3.3.005-711-g4feca695d
> 
> OVMS# ota partitions list 
> Partition table:
> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size      
> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00010000 6 MB
> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00610000 6 MB
> store            data fat          0x00c10000 1 MB
> Digest:          a0d94b1efa7f6d8852b44150db218e8d pass
> 
> OVMS# ota boot ?
> Usage: ota boot ota_0|ota_1
> ota_0                Boot from ota_0 image
> ota_1                Boot from ota_1 image
> 
> OVMS# ota copy ?   
> Usage: ota copy ota_0|ota_1
> ota_0                OTA copy ota_0 <to>
> ota_1                OTA copy ota_1 <to>
> 
> OVMS# ota erase ?
> Usage: ota erase ota_0|ota_1
> ota_0                Erase ota_0 image
> ota_1                Erase ota_1 image
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 24.02.26 um 13:40 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>> OK, I have just committed this. The two new commands are:
>> 
>> ota partitions list
>> ota partitions upgrade [-noconfirm]
>> 
>> Rollback is via:
>> 
>> wget http://api.openvehicles.com/firmware/ota/v3.1/main/partitions.bin
>> esptool.py -p <path-to-usb> write_flash 0x8000 partitions.bin 
>> 
>> General approach to manual upgrade:
>> 
>> Upgrade to firmware supporting this feature (3.3.005-711-g4feca695 or later)
>> Copy running ota firmware to factory
>> Set to boot from flash and reboot
>> Use ‘ota partitions upgrade’ to upgrade
>> Reboot
>> 
>> Items still to be addressed:
>> 
>> Documentation (including rollback procedure).
>> Modify partitions.csv to use this new format (when ready for production).
>> Web interface (in particular concept of factory vs ota), if necessary (haven’t checked this).
>> OTA flash builds. We will need a way to support 6MB builds for those that can use them. I suggest to change GetOVMSProduct() to return v3.5 for these modules that are running this new 6MB capable partition table. Then on server we can build a production release final 4MB firmware including this support, and then use v3.5 tree to build future 6MB only builds. The ‘ota flash’ system would automatically support that and give people time to upgrade (as well as new users with 4MB partition modules for many months).
>> Investigate any simple way to make this a simple one-command (current ota->factory, boot factory, reboot, partitions upgrade, reboot).
>> 
>> For the moment, please try this out and let me know if you find any problems. We can then decide on the items still to be addressed.
>> 
>> Regards, Mark.
>> 
>> P.S. There is a possibility to do this another way to make even more flash space available, but that would mean moving the store partition right to the end of the 16MB flash, which is not so simple. Is 6MB really enough? Probably so if we can move to javascript vehicle modules, otherwise probably not (long-term).
>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2026, at 12:27 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Awesome :-)
>>> 
>>> We need to update the user manual's firmware rescue guide (https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/userguide/factory.html#flash-factory-firmware-via-usb) accordingly, so in case anything goes wrong, users can help themselves or get local help.
>>> 
>>> The 4KB RAM overhead shouldn't be an issue I think, but we could add a free memory check and recommend switching to the "NONE" vehicle while performing the operation, if memory is too tight.
>>> 
>>>> P.S. OVMS v2 had to fit in 96KB of flash ;-)
>>> 
>>> …and 3328 bytes of RAM in total… so much for the "overhead" ;-)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 22.02.26 um 16:00 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>>> I’ve made some progress with this:
>>>> 
>>>> OVMS# ota status nocheck
>>>> Hardware:          OVMS WIFI BLE BT cores=2 rev=ESP32/1
>>>> Firmware:          3.3.005-704-g6a1fed98-dirty/factory/edge (build idf v3.3.4-854-g9063c8662-dirty Feb 22 2026 22:28:00)
>>>> Partition type:    v3-f12 (factory, ota1, ota2)
>>>> Partition table:   0x8000
>>>> Running partition: factory
>>>> Boot partition:    factory
>>>> Factory image:     3.3.005-704-g6a1fed98-dirty
>>>> OTA_O image:       3.3.005-662-g1f318f04
>>>> OTA_1 image:       3.3.005-643-gdbec4a13
>>>> 
>>>> OVMS# ota partitions list
>>>> Partition table:
>>>> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size
>>>> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
>>>> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
>>>> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
>>>> factory          app  factory      0x00010000 4 MB
>>>> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00410000 4 MB
>>>> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00810000 4 MB
>>>> store            data fat          0x00c10000 1 MB
>>>> Digest:          cfe36765a6bfe1b802a2abd4ec9f6851 pass
>>>> 
>>>> ## Before upgrade, user needs to copy current OTA to FACTORY, set boot partition to FACTORY, then reboot
>>>> ## The upgrade process checks this and will refuse to upgrade unless that is the case
>>>> 
>>>> OVMS# ota partitions upgrade
>>>> 0x00009000 Skipping over data/nvs partition
>>>> 0x0000d000 Skipping over data/ota partition
>>>> 0x0000f000 Skipping over data/phy partition
>>>> 0x00010000 Converted factory partition to 6MB OTA 0
>>>> 0x00610000 Converted OTA 0 partition to 6MB OTA 1
>>>> 0x00c10000 Moved data/fat partition up one position
>>>>            Recalculated MD5 checksum
>>>>            Clearing trailing old MD5 checksum record
>>>> Erasing old partition table (4096 bytes at 0x00008000)...
>>>> Writing new partition table (4096 bytes at 0x00008000)...
>>>> Partition table upgraded successfully - reboot required
>>>> 
>>>> OVMS# ota partitions list
>>>> Partition table:
>>>> Label            Type Subtype         Address Size
>>>> nvs              data nvs          0x00009000 16 KB
>>>> otadata          data ota          0x0000d000 8 KB
>>>> phy_init         data phy          0x0000f000 4 KB
>>>> ota_0            app  ota_0        0x00010000 6 MB
>>>> ota_1            app  ota_1        0x00610000 6 MB
>>>> store            data fat          0x00c10000 1 MB
>>>> Digest:          a0d94b1efa7f6d8852b44150db218e8d pass
>>>> 
>>>> This is mostly implemented in a new ovms_partitions.{h,cpp} in ovms_ota component, with only minor extensions to ovms_ota itself. I have removed the ‘factory’ commands from ovms_ota if the new partition layout is detected at boot.
>>>> 
>>>> One big ‘gotcha’ I found was that we need to set CONFIG_SPI_FLASH_WRITING_DANGEROUS_REGIONS_ABORT= and CONFIG_SPI_FLASH_WRITING_DANGEROUS_REGIONS_ALLOWED=y in our sdkconfig - otherwise the partition table cannot be re-flashed.
>>>> 
>>>> The partition table must also be held in internal (not external SPI) RAM - which is about a 4KB overhead just for these checks.
>>>> 
>>>> The usual app-flash still works (and now targets the first OTA at 0x0010000, rather than factory), so this approach seems feasible and workable now. Once we are happy with this, and have a production firmware supporting this layout, I can also provide a new partitions.bin to the factory for new units to ship with.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a few minor enhancements to make: (a) add a ‘yes/no’ (like factory reset), (b) an option to load partition table in internal/external ram (internal only at the moment), and (c) some minor tidy-ups. I suggest then to just check it in with this basic manual functionality that can be experimented with. Absent any comments / suggestions, I should be able to commit this early in the coming week.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. OVMS v2 had to fit in 96KB of flash ;-)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2026, at 11:12 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net> <mailto:mark at webb-johnson.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The links are very helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have some time, and inclination to handle this (now that my new home build host is up and running and a make of OVMS from clean, with 32 cores and a fast SSD, is under 25 seconds).
>>>>> 
>>>>> real	0m24.642s
>>>>> user	5m50.376s
>>>>> sys		0m38.276s
>>>>> 
>>>>> We’ve already got the ‘ota copy’ command, so I will start with trying to work on manipulation of the partition table and improving the ‘ota status’ command to show partition table format and sizes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Jan 2026, at 5:34 PM, Michael Balzer via OvmsDev <ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com> <mailto:ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Signed PGP part
>>>>>> On the migration tool for changing the partition table from a running application, we're (of course) not the first having that issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we're about to go that way, here is an implementation of the process:
>>>>>> Explanation: https://johnmu.com/2024-esp32-partition-update/
>>>>>> Source: https://github.com/softplus/Esp32Repartition
>>>>>> It's written for the Arduino IDE with the PlatformIO lib to create a UI, but the core function is straight forward and should be adaptable for us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The implementation allows for direct manipulations of the partition table, i.e. doesn't need a prepared table blob to flash.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using a prepared blob should be even more simple, basically just a matter of `spi_flash_erase_range()` & `spi_flash_write()` (→https://github.com/softplus/Esp32Repartition/blob/main/src/part_mgr.cpp#L297). We probably don't even need `getPartitionTableAddr()`, as our table is fixed at 0x8000.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The code needed is small. When using a blob, the table in theory uses a full flash sector of 4096 bytes, but probably doesn't fill the whole sector.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 08.12.25 um 07:01 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson via OvmsDev:
>>>>>>> Michael, Carsten,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think that if targeting things to cull, we would need to be balance size vs importance. For example, the RE tools mentioned is just 10KB total size. By comparison TPMS is 9KB, and web server is 538KB.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We learned with OVMS v2 that the biggest culprits in the long-run are always the vehicle modules. The core system stays pretty stable, but the space required for *all* vehicle modules grows with the number of vehicles supported.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don’t think we can simply switch to 32MB flash, as that would abandon the existing users. We would also need to source a standard certified 32MB module (which I don’t think Espressif offer themselves).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking at the partition table:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> # OVMS 16MB flash ESP32 Partition Table
>>>>>>> # Name,   Type, SubType, Offset,   Size
>>>>>>> nvs,      data, nvs,     0x9000,  0x4000
>>>>>>> otadata,  data, ota,     0xd000,  0x2000
>>>>>>> phy_init, data, phy,     0xf000,  0x1000
>>>>>>> factory,  app,  factory, 0x10000,  4M
>>>>>>> ota_0,    app,  ota_0,   ,         4M
>>>>>>> ota_1,    app,  ota_1,   ,         4M
>>>>>>> store,    data, fat,     ,         1M
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Assuming we could (and that is a big assumption given our older SDK) change that at runtime, then a possible migration path could be:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have our code support both old and new partition table formats, and refuse to update to old format if firmware > 4MB. Get that code out into the hands of users.
>>>>>>> Provide a migration tool for partition table:
>>>>>>> Copy running code to factory (from ota_0 or ota_1, whichever is current).
>>>>>>> Reboot
>>>>>>> Change partition table (most likely replacing the entire table with a binary blob of the new format)
>>>>>>> factory 4MB -> ota_0 same offset, 6MB size
>>>>>>> ota_0 -> ota_1 6MB offset, 6MB size
>>>>>>> Change boot to ota_0.
>>>>>>> Reboot
>>>>>>> Liase with factory so new modules use new partition format (and ship with firmware that supports it).
>>>>>>> Wait a reasonable time for users to update before releasing any firmware > 4MB.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That would work more similarly to other more modern ESP frameworks which don’t bother with ‘factory’. It would allow us another 50% expansion. But it does run the risk of bricking (requiring espflash to recover) during the process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But longer-term, the solution to me seems to be to allow the vehicle module code to overlay - so only the single vehicle you choose is loaded. And (absent any dynamic linking of modular code in freertos), the only straightforward way of doing that I know of is migrating vehicle support to Javascript (which comes along with a host of other advantages - most notably not having to be a C++ embedded developer to add/refine vehicle support).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7 Dec 2025, at 4:39 PM, Carsten Schmiemann via OvmsDev <ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com> <mailto:ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It was to be expected that we would eventually run out of flash storage. That’s why I would immediately question whether we should detach ourselves from components that aren’t really being used. We could even start a survey or something like that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For example, the RE tools — the idea behind them is great, but without documentation they’re not easy to use, and every time I tried to work with them, it just resulted in crashes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then there’s the question of who actually uses Telnet, SSH, the Duktape framework, the DBC parser, OBD2ECU, or CANopen (yes, the Twizy integration is the only one that uses it). 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All great ideas, but in the end, how many users really make use of them?
>>>>>>>> The fewer active components we have to maintain, the ‘easier’ it would also be to port the code to a more current ESP-IDF version — and that would bring significant benefits such as improved networking features, including firewall capabilities and a much more stable switching between LTE and Wi-Fi. I’ve looked at llanges attempts and it’s extremely tough.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As an example, in my own custom firmware builds, I don’t enable the components (and of course not all vehicles, so not 100 percent representative) mentioned above. This requires small modifications in the code because, for example, the ESP logger is missing but referenced in another file, etc. But my firmware file is only about 2.8 MB.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents
>>>>>>>> Carsten
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 07.12.2025 um 08:57 schrieb Michael Balzer via OvmsDev <ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com> <mailto:ovmsdev at lists.openvehicles.com>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> FYI: use `make size-components` to create a report on all component sizes (`make size-files` for source file level).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unsurprisingly the webserver is on top, even with all assets precompressed already.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Top 10 components:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Per-archive contributions to ELF file:
>>>>>>>>>             Archive File DRAM .data & .bss   IRAM Flash code & rodata   Total
>>>>>>>>>      libovms_webserver.a          0    255      0     134342   399846  534443
>>>>>>>>>              libstdc++.a        149   5640      0     141045    72513  219347
>>>>>>>>>                libmain.a         15   2104      0     139216    40086  181421
>>>>>>>>>             libduktape.a          0      0      0     141641    20367  162008
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_renaulttwizy.          0     29      0      86517    75357  161903
>>>>>>>>>  libc-psram-workaround.a       1854     66  18391     118283    10943  149537
>>>>>>>>>                liblwip.a         17   3873      0     118366    16722  138978
>>>>>>>>>            libnet80211.a        938   9042  10475      92339    21900  134694
>>>>>>>>>             libmbedtls.a        100    560     76     107079    26785  134600
>>>>>>>>>       libvehicle_vweup.a          8      8      0      60846    43432  104294
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Vehicles:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Per-archive contributions to ELF file:
>>>>>>>>>             Archive File DRAM .data & .bss   IRAM Flash code & rodata   Total
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_renaulttwizy.          0     29      0      86517    75357  161903
>>>>>>>>>       libvehicle_vweup.a          8      8      0      60846    43432  104294
>>>>>>>>>        libvehicle_mgev.a        156     26      0      47756    33998   81936
>>>>>>>>>     libvehicle_smarteq.a         82     15      0      59267    19527   78891
>>>>>>>>>     libvehicle_smarted.a          0      9      0      48481    28801   77291
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_renaultzoe_ph          4     10      0      44622    29564   74200
>>>>>>>>>             libvehicle.a          0     68      0      57735    12062   69865
>>>>>>>>>       libvehicle_bmwi3.a          0      2      0      33370    14357   47729
>>>>>>>>>      libvehicle_minise.a       9432      2      0      35360     2210   47004
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_hyundai_ioniq        176      7      0      32921    13425   46529
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_nissanleaf.a          0      3      0      35491     8941   44435
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_kiasoulev.a        240      9      0      32508     5473   38230
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_kianiroev.a        108      7      0      24070     4006   28191
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_mitsubishi.a          0      5      0      21645     3893   25543
>>>>>>>>>      libvehicle_boltev.a          0      5      0      15999     7864   23868
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_niu_gtevo.a          4     12      0      18248     3733   21997
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_maxus_edelive        156      3      0      10713     7477   18349
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_renaultzoe.a          0      6      0      14828     2859   17693
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_maxus_euniq56        156      3      0       8363     6840   15362
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_voltampera.a          0      5      0      13221     1932   15158
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_hyundai_ioniq          0      3      0      11081     3191   14275
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_teslaroadster          0      6      0      10367     2238   12611
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_thinkcity.a          0      3      0       6114     3449    9566
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_jaguaripace.a          0      8      0       5445     3941    9394
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_fiatedoblo.a          0      2      0       4262     2126    6390
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_teslamodels.a          0      2      0       5361      948    6311
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_toyotarav4ev.          0      2      0       5023     1255    6280
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_maxus_t90.a          0      3      0       2567     2204    4774
>>>>>>>>>   libvehicle_byd_atto3.a          0      2      0       3503      947    4452
>>>>>>>>>    libvehicle_energica.a          0      1      0       3319      880    4200
>>>>>>>>>        libvehicle_demo.a          0      2      0       3205      795    4002
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_maxus_euniq6.          0      2      0       2470     1182    3654
>>>>>>>>>     libvehicle_fiat500.a          0      2      0       2838      732    3572
>>>>>>>>>  libvehicle_zombie_vcu.a          0      4      0       1882     1259    3145
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_mercedesb250e          0      2      0       2113      955    3070
>>>>>>>>>        libvehicle_zeva.a          0      2      0       2209      688    2899
>>>>>>>>>         libvehicle_dbc.a          0      2      0       1278     1395    2675
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_cadillac_c2_c          0      7      0       1293     1105    2405
>>>>>>>>>    libvehicle_maple60s.a          0      2      0       1416      698    2116
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_chevrolet_c6_          0      2      0       1053     1049    2104
>>>>>>>>>       libvehicle_obdii.a          0      2      0        957     1007    1966
>>>>>>>>> libvehicle_teslamodel3.a          0      2      0        458      713    1173
>>>>>>>>>        libvehicle_none.a          0      2      0        418      684    1104
>>>>>>>>>       libvehicle_track.a          0      2      0        416      680    1098
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.25 um 10:33 schrieb Michael Balzer via OvmsDev:
>>>>>>>>>> Everyone, 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> with the latest vehicle additions, the firmware size has now grown to 4,015,328 bytes in build 3.3.005-485-gc4664881. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Our flash partitioning scheme is currently designed to provide three firmware partitions (factory, ota_0 & ota_1) of 4MB = 4,194,304 bytes each. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So we've now got 178,976 bytes = ~4% left. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Options beyond the 4 MB limit: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  a) split features, e.g. vehicle support, into two or more builds 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  b) repartition into two firmware partitions of 6 MB each, reusing the factory partition for OTA 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  c) switch to an ESP32 WROOM module with 32 MB flash (possible?) 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We've got some time left, new vehicles normally don't need that much space, I just wanted to raise awareness. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>>>>>>> Michael 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Michael Balzer * Am Rahmen 5 * D-58313 Herdecke
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>>>>>> Michael Balzer * Am Rahmen 5 * D-58313 Herdecke
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