Hi guys, I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car. That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed. What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle? Geir
Hi all, I was also thinking about such a function which could be triggered by several to be defined things. Like Charge stop or reaching certain SOC during charging. Wolfgang
Am 06.01.2018 um 16:27 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <geir@validalo.net>:
Hi guys,
I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car.
That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed.
What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle?
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Wolfgang, those are standard notifications already covered by the framework. To trigger a charge status notification, you simply do: MyNotify.NotifyCommand("info", "stat"); …or if it's an alert… MyNotify.NotifyCommand("alert", "stat"); Regards, Michael Am 06.01.2018 um 10:33 schrieb Wolfgang Jenne:
Hi all,
I was also thinking about such a function which could be triggered by several to be defined things. Like Charge stop or reaching certain SOC during charging.
Wolfgang
Am 06.01.2018 um 16:27 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <geir@validalo.net>:
Hi guys,
I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car.
That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed.
What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle?
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Geir, I've also thought about such a feature. It's common for new connected cars, but you always pay the price of not being in control of the connection and data flows with those systems. As not every car can provide clear crash detection signals, or they may be inaccessable to the module after the crash (i.e. components go offline), I thought about monitoring speed & direction for this. As that introduces potential for false positives, I thought about first sending an SMS to the registered phone asking "Are you OK?", and if the user doesn't respond with anything like a "yes" within a minute, the alert SMS would be sent. v2 had no space left for this, but we definitely should include something like this in v3 now. Regards, Michael Am 06.01.2018 um 10:27 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
Hi guys,
I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car.
That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed.
What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle?
Geir
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Nice to see that you're also thinking about this 🙂 Great idea with monitoring speed and direction, Micheal! That could be something that might be common code for all vehicles, and then each vehicle implementation could raise an event for the different things that are possible to detect from the car. I seems we need and emergency event handler of some sort that can keep track of the events and the SMS sending and SMS response. Btw, what are the chances for 12V being gone in a crash? Maybe we should have a backup battery in the OVMS? Geir
6. jan. 2018 kl. 10:46 skrev Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de>:
Geir,
I've also thought about such a feature. It's common for new connected cars, but you always pay the price of not being in control of the connection and data flows with those systems.
As not every car can provide clear crash detection signals, or they may be inaccessable to the module after the crash (i.e. components go offline), I thought about monitoring speed & direction for this.
As that introduces potential for false positives, I thought about first sending an SMS to the registered phone asking "Are you OK?", and if the user doesn't respond with anything like a "yes" within a minute, the alert SMS would be sent.
v2 had no space left for this, but we definitely should include something like this in v3 now.
Regards, Michael
Am 06.01.2018 um 10:27 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
Hi guys,
I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car.
That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed.
What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle?
Geir
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Sounds like a good idea, and definitely should be vehicle independent. I suggest you look at ovms_netmanager, and implement this as ovms_emergency (or something like that). Should not need a task, and can simply respond based on metric updates. Regards, Mark.
On 6 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <geir@validalo.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve been thinking of adding an emergency alert to the Kia Soul module that kicks in when the hazard lights are turned on, airbags are deployed or in other situations that might be a reason for concern. These alerts would be sent as SMS to a list of recipients that the user specifies. Typically I would include my own number, my wife’s and a few of my closest family. The alert can contain location, type of alert (airbag deployment, hazard light or other), number of passengers (by keeping track of the seat belt sensors), maybe using BT to see which phones are in the car.
That way, we can call in to see if everything is ok and act if needed.
What do you think? Is this functionality that could/should be general and added to vehicle?
Geir _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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