Hi all, I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working! Robert
Robert, Probably easiest to start with this checklist: http://www.openvehicles.com/helpme If you can’t get it working, then send the results of the last few SMS messages to support@openvehicles.com. If you’re not getting past green 9 blinks, then that means it can’t detect the SIM. Try cleaning the contacts on the sim and tray, and then triple-checking it is inserted correctly and cleanly. Here are the codes: // LED MODES #define NET_LED_WAKEUP 10 // Attempting to wake up the modem #define NET_LED_INITSIM1 9 // Checking SIM card insertion status #define NET_LED_INITSIM2 8 // Checking SIM card PIN status #define NET_LED_INITSIM3 7 // Initialising modem #define NET_LED_COPS 6 // COPS initialisation #define NET_LED_NETINIT 5 // GPRS NET initialisation #define NET_LED_NETAPNOK 4 // GPRS APN is OK, final init #define NET_LED_NETCALL 3 // GPRS Network call #define NET_LED_READY 2 // READY state #define NET_LED_READYGPRS 1 // READY GPRS state // LED ERRORS #define NET_LED_ERRLOSTSIG 1 // Lost signal #define NET_LED_ERRMODEM 2 // Problem communicating with modem #define NET_LED_ERRSIM1 3 // SIM is not inserted/detected #define NET_LED_ERRSIM2 4 // PIN lock on the SIM #define NET_LED_ERRCOPS 6 // COPS GSM lock could not be obtained #define NET_LED_ERRGPRSRETRY 7 // Error (maybe temp) during GPRS init #define NET_LED_ERRGPRSFAIL 8 // GPRS NET INIT failed #define NET_LED_ERRCONNFAIL 9 // GPRS TCP CONNECT failed #define NET_LED_ERRDIAGMODE 10 // DIAGNOSTIC mode Regards, Mark.
On 31 Oct 2015, at 9:16 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
Welcome Robert :-) Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first. You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with. Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far. If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact. Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version. Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback. Regards, Michael Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Hi all, I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! Rob On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Hi, have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip>
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev>
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Hi again, I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data. I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code. I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem. :( Rob On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Rob, green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them. I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing. Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely. Regards, Michael Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Rob, Is it working for you now? I hope you’ll make it soon! B.t.w., do you live in the US? And have UVO? Would have been really cool if you could sniff the CAN-bus for messages to see if you can replicate the UVO-functionality in UVMS! Best regards, Geir
1. nov. 2015 kl. 18.09 skrev Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de>:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip>
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
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Hi all again, I'm really not having any luck here. I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around. The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before. I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens. I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that... Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls. Rob On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi all,
I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply.
I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me.
I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started.
Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this.
What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled.
I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code?
The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast.
I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice.
Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working!
Robert _______________________________________________ OvmsDev mailing list OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection. Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Welcome Robert :-)
Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first.
You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with.
Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far.
If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact.
Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version.
Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> ...hex: http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip>
This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback.
Regards, Michael
Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: > Hi all, > > I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. > > I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. > > I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. > > Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. > > What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. > > I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? > > The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. > > I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. > > Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working! > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev>
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Hi all, I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion! Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine... Thanks! Rob On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>:
Hi all,
I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir!
I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet.
It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green.
I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Rob
On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: > Welcome Robert :-) > > Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. > So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides > first. > > You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should > first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config > to start with. > > Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the > config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the > state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, > describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what > you have done so far. > > If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the > SIM card has contact. > > Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the > VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've > currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for > this version. > > Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my > account on github: > https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System > ...hex: > http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip > > This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps > (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta > test feedback. > > Regards, > Michael > > > Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, >> hence I'm not able to click reply. >> >> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the >> UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >> >> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so >> I'm reading through some guides to get started. >> >> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. >> >> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the >> climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. >> Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, >> but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my >> other car), so I am quite spoiled. >> >> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked >> it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status >> LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup >> sequence separate from the car-control code? >> >> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, >> then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. >> >> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >> >> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this >> working! >> >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > -- > Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal > Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine. Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote:
Hi,
have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs?
Bye Michael
> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>: > > Hi all, > > I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! > > I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. > > It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. > > I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Rob > > On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >> Welcome Robert :-) >> >> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first. >> >> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with. >> >> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far. >> >> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact. >> >> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version. >> >> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: >> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> >> ...hex: >> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip> >> >> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback. >> >> Regards, >> Michael >> >> >> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. >>> >>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>> >>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>> >>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. >>> >>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>> >>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? >>> >>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. >>> >>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working! >>> >>> Robert >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >> >> -- >> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev>
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Hi all, I'm having trouble seeing chargers on the map in the iOS-app. When I press the "Filtered Stations ON" I get a message saying that the selected car has no setup of charger type. I guess it is talking about the charger settings I get when I press the large battery indicator, but whatever I choose here, I get unimplemented operation. Is this the correct place to register the charger type? Do you have any pointers for where to start in the code? Best regards, Geir
Geir, the OCM charge plugs config should be available in the car editor. The dialog attached to the battery indicator is meant to configure the current/next charging session, which is not yet implemented on the Kia (and likely will need some changes). Regards, Michael Am 02.11.2015 um 14:41 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
Hi all,
I'm having trouble seeing chargers on the map in the iOS-app. When I press the "Filtered Stations ON" I get a message saying that the selected car has no setup of charger type. I guess it is talking about the charger settings I get when I press the large battery indicator, but whatever I choose here, I get unimplemented operation. Is this the correct place to register the charger type? Do you have any pointers for where to start in the code?
Best regards, Geir
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I understand. Then something is wrong with the latest iOS version, I believe. It cant open the getcorereferencedata from OCM, so in the connection-scene I can’t see anything at all. I tried to open up the security by editing Info.plist file so that the app will "allow arbitrary loads”, but then it fails later on. This is too heavy material for me to dig into now :-) Geir
2. nov. 2015 kl. 18.28 skrev Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de>:
Geir,
the OCM charge plugs config should be available in the car editor.
The dialog attached to the battery indicator is meant to configure the current/next charging session, which is not yet implemented on the Kia (and likely will need some changes).
Regards, Michael
Am 02.11.2015 um 14:41 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
Hi all,
I'm having trouble seeing chargers on the map in the iOS-app. When I press the "Filtered Stations ON" I get a message saying that the selected car has no setup of charger type. I guess it is talking about the charger settings I get when I press the large battery indicator, but whatever I choose here, I get unimplemented operation. Is this the correct place to register the charger type? Do you have any pointers for where to start in the code?
Best regards, Geir
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OK so I had/have two problems: 1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins. 2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work. So things are on pause until I'm able to do that... Rob On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi again,
I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data.
I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code.
I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen?
Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem.
:(
Rob
On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: > Hi, > > have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? > Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked > cards. > Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? > > Bye > Michael > > >> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca>: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul >> EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! >> >> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new >> installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >> >> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the >> car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and >> green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 >> seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I >> think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times >> while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash >> on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are >> both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, >> and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. >> >> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Rob >> >> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>> Welcome Robert :-) >>> >>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the >>> Twizy guides first. >>> >>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a >>> clean config to start with. >>> >>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the >>> config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at >>> the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need >>> help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and >>> what you have done so far. >>> >>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the >>> SIM card has contact. >>> >>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the >>> VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've >>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for >>> this version. >>> >>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>> account on github: >>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>> ...hex: >>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>> >>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps >>> (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta >>> test feedback. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, >>>> hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>> >>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the >>>> UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>> >>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, >>>> so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>> >>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. >>>> >>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the >>>> climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. >>>> Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, >>>> but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my >>>> other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>> >>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked >>>> it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on >>>> status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the >>>> bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? >>>> >>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, >>>> then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. >>>> >>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting >>>> this working! >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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I'm up and running! The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally. PHEW! I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that. Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality. Woohoo! this is awesome! Rob On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
Rob,
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them.
I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing.
Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely.
Regards, Michael
Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: > Hi again, > > I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data > connection and was able to download data. > > I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for > a code. > > I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. > > Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? > > Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then > again, Geir has it working no problem. > > :( > > Rob > > On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN >> locked cards. >> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >> >> Bye >> Michael >> >> >>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca>: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia >>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! >>> >>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new >>> installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>> >>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the >>> car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and >>> green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 >>> seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I >>> think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times >>> while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash >>> on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are >>> both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, >>> and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. >>> >>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>> >>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the >>>> Twizy guides first. >>>> >>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a >>>> clean config to start with. >>>> >>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the >>>> config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at >>>> the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you >>>> need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been >>>> following and what you have done so far. >>>> >>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if >>>> the SIM card has contact. >>>> >>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains >>>> the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've >>>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for >>>> this version. >>>> >>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>>> account on github: >>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>>> ...hex: >>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>>> >>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps >>>> (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta >>>> test feedback. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, >>>>> hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>> >>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the >>>>> UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>> >>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, >>>>> so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>> >>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. >>>>> >>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on >>>>> the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at >>>>> will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is >>>>> cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a >>>>> Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>> >>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and >>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based >>>>> on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is >>>>> the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? >>>>> >>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, >>>>> then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. >>>>> >>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>> >>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting >>>>> this working! >>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Hi guys, So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location. However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else? I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off. Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server? Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions. Rob On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: > Rob, > > green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use > a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing > the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. > > Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely > you stumbled across two of them. > > I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any > error output, so you also should try re-flashing. > > Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot > soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your > module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely. > > Regards, > Michael > > > Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: >> Hi again, >> >> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got >> data connection and was able to download data. >> >> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me >> for a code. >> >> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. >> >> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? >> >> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then >> again, Geir has it working no problem. >> >> :( >> >> Rob >> >> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN >>> locked cards. >>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >>> >>> Bye >>> Michael >>> >>> >>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca>: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia >>>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and >>>> Geir! >>>> >>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >>>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >>>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new >>>> installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>>> >>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into >>>> the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red >>>> and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about >>>> 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, >>>> then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few >>>> times while the green is flashing, and then then both start >>>> to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks >>>> like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 >>>> or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, >>>> 9 on green. >>>> >>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >>>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >>>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>>> >>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the >>>>> Twizy guides first. >>>>> >>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a >>>>> clean config to start with. >>>>> >>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the >>>>> config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at >>>>> the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you >>>>> need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been >>>>> following and what you have done so far. >>>>> >>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if >>>>> the SIM card has contact. >>>>> >>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains >>>>> the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've >>>>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback >>>>> for this version. >>>>> >>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>>>> account on github: >>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>>>> ...hex: >>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>>>> >>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps >>>>> (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified >>>>> beta test feedback. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >>>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, >>>>>> hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have >>>>>> the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, >>>>>> so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for >>>>>> this. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on >>>>>> the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at >>>>>> will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is >>>>>> cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a >>>>>> Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and >>>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly >>>>>> (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the >>>>>> firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the >>>>>> car-control code? >>>>>> >>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, >>>>>> then a few reds, then green and red flash together really >>>>>> fast. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting >>>>>> this working! >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > -- > Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal > Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Hi Rob, I have a Perl script I use to access the info on the server through the HTTP api. I've attached a zip archive with three scripts. The one you want is ovms.pl. First, customize it with your account info, then run "ovms.pl s" from the command line. That will dump out the recent records, a day or two, that the server has received from the module. The other scripts are to automate downloading everything and maintaining a complete archive. I can explain in more detail if you care. Tom On 11/4/15, 2:46 PM, "Robert Cotran" <robert@cotran.ca> wrote: Hi guys, So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location. However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else? I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off. Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server? Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions. Rob On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca> robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all again,
I'm really not having any luck here.
I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around.
The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before.
I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens.
I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that...
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.
Rob
On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote:
> Rob, > > green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a > locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM > lock with the SIM toolkit. > > Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you > stumbled across two of them. > > I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error > output, so you also should try re-flashing. > > Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering > causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been > used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely. > > Regards, > Michael > > > > Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: > > > Hi again, > > I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data > connection and was able to download data. > > I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a > code. > > I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. > > Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? > > Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, > Geir has it working no problem. > > :( > > Rob > > > On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? > > Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. > > Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? > > > > > Bye > > Michael > > > > > > > > > Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca> > robert@cotran.ca>: > > > > Hi all, > > I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV > firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! > > I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and > flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the > EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on > the kit yet. > > It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the > red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, > and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green > flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the > red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then > both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks > like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 > seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. > > I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've > cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm > a bit lost as to what I can try next. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Rob > > > On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: > > > Welcome Robert :-) > > Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you > can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first. > > You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first > flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start > with. > > Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config > process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine > diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) > which doc you've been following and what you have done so far. > > If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card > has contact. > > Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if > you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one > positive and one negative test feedback for this version. > > Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on > github: > <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> > https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System > ...hex: > <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip> > http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip > > This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / > 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback. > > Regards, > Michael > > > > Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: > > > Hi all, > > I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the > mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click > reply. > > I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO > services, so this is of great interest to me. > > I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm > reading through some guides to get started. > > Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. > > What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate > control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a > remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even > better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. > > I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to > the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that > be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the > car-control code? > > The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few > reds, then green and red flash together really fast. > > I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. > > Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working! > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > > > -- > Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal > Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovm > sdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovm > sdev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovm > sdev > > > > -- > Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal > Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovm > sdev >
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Thanks for this, Tom! I'll get this Perl script running shortly. First I have to figure out if the OVMS module is being interpreted as "bad" to the Soul EV. Had some strange things happen with it just now... Rob On 11/4/2015 7:48 PM, Tom Saxton wrote:
Hi Rob,
I have a Perl script I use to access the info on the server through the HTTP api.
I've attached a zip archive with three scripts. The one you want is ovms.pl. First, customize it with your account info, then run "ovms.pl s" from the command line. That will dump out the recent records, a day or two, that the server has received from the module. The other scripts are to automate downloading everything and maintaining a complete archive. I can explain in more detail if you care.
Tom
On 11/4/15, 2:46 PM, "Robert Cotran" <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi guys,
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.
However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else?
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off.
Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server?
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.
Rob
On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote: > > Hi all again, > > I'm really not having any luck here. > > I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do > exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red > and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy > so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is > defective. I wish I had another kit lying around. > > The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has > never been used in a car before. > > I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the > same thing happens. > > I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the > kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that... > > Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services > unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this > going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this > working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be > willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy > the HVAC calls. > > Rob > > On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >> Rob, >> >> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could >> use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again >> removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. >> >> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely >> you stumbled across two of them. >> >> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without >> any error output, so you also should try re-flashing. >> >> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot >> soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As >> your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely. >> >> Regards, >> Michael >> >> >> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got >>> data connection and was able to download data. >>> >>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me >>> for a code. >>> >>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. >>> >>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? >>> >>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? >>> Then again, Geir has it working no problem. >>> >>> :( >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN >>>> locked cards. >>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia >>>>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and >>>>> Geir! >>>>> >>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >>>>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >>>>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a >>>>> new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>>>> >>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into >>>>> the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the >>>>> red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for >>>>> about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 >>>>> times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED >>>>> flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then >>>>> then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast >>>>> that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like >>>>> this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over >>>>> again from the 10, 9 on green. >>>>> >>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >>>>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >>>>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try >>>>> next. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>>>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the >>>>>> Twizy guides first. >>>>>> >>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>>>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a >>>>>> clean config to start with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in >>>>>> the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a >>>>>> look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. >>>>>> If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've >>>>>> been following and what you have done so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if >>>>>> the SIM card has contact. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains >>>>>> the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've >>>>>> currently got one positive and one negative test feedback >>>>>> for this version. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>>>>> account on github: >>>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>>>>> ...hex: >>>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data >>>>>> dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need >>>>>> qualified beta test feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >>>>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, >>>>>>> hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have >>>>>>> the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total >>>>>>> newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for >>>>>>> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on >>>>>>> the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at >>>>>>> will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it >>>>>>> is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a >>>>>>> Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and >>>>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly >>>>>>> (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the >>>>>>> firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the >>>>>>> car-control code? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 >>>>>>> Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together >>>>>>> really fast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting >>>>>>> this working! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> -- >> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hkhttp://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Rob, My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII. Once the car is turned off, the module should continue to know the last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at some stage. Regards, Mark.
On 5 Nov, 2015, at 6:46 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi guys,
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.
However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else?
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off.
Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server?
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.
Rob
On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
Regards, Mark.
> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote: > > Hi all again, > > I'm really not having any luck here. > > I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is defective. I wish I had another kit lying around. > > The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has never been used in a car before. > > I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the same thing happens. > > I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that... > > Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls. > > Rob > > On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >> Rob, >> >> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. >> >> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's unlikely you stumbled across two of them. >> >> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without any error output, so you also should try re-flashing. >> >> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite unlikely. >> >> Regards, >> Michael >> >> >> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got data connection and was able to download data. >>> >>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me for a code. >>> >>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. >>> >>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? >>> >>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? Then again, Geir has it working no problem. >>> >>> :( >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards. >>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran < <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal and Geir! >>>>> >>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>>>> >>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over again from the 10, 9 on green. >>>>> >>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try next. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the Twizy guides first. >>>>>> >>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a clean config to start with. >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've been following and what you have done so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if the SIM card has contact. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative test feedback for this version. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my account on github: >>>>>> <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System>https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System <https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System> >>>>>> ...hex: >>>>>> <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip>http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip <http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip> >>>>>> >>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need qualified beta test feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the car-control code? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together really fast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting this working! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>> <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk>OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>>>>> <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev>http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> >> >> -- >> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev> > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev <http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev>
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Hi guys, So I just went out to the car to turn it on with the OVMS module connected to see if that made a difference. As soon as I did so, a cooling fan came on at the front of the vehicle and the dashboard lit up with flashing lights and the message "Check vehicle EV system", and something like "Stop driving and verify power supply". Worried that it was the OVMS causing that, I unplugged the OBDII plug and as soon as I did so, everything went back to normal. Has anyone else experienced this? On 11/4/2015 7:58 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Rob,
My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII. Once the car is turned off, the module should continue to know the last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at some stage.
Regards, Mark.
On 5 Nov, 2015, at 6:46 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca <mailto:robert@cotran.ca>> wrote:
Hi guys,
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.
However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else?
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off.
Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com <http://tmc.openvehicles.com> server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server?
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.
Rob
On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi all,
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion!
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...
Thanks!
Rob
On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote: > The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and > a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have > a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you > exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they > go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the > SIM connection. > > Regards, Mark. > >> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi all again, >> >> I'm really not having any luck here. >> >> I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do >> exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red >> and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like >> crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is >> defective. I wish I had another kit lying around. >> >> The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has >> never been used in a car before. >> >> I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the >> same thing happens. >> >> I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on the >> kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test that... >> >> Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services >> unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this >> going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this >> working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be >> willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to >> copy the HVAC calls. >> >> Rob >> >> On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>> Rob, >>> >>> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could >>> use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again >>> removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. >>> >>> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's >>> unlikely you stumbled across two of them. >>> >>> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without >>> any error output, so you also should try re-flashing. >>> >>> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot >>> soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As >>> your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite >>> unlikely. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got >>>> data connection and was able to download data. >>>> >>>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask me >>>> for a code. >>>> >>>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. >>>> >>>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? >>>> >>>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? >>>> Then again, Geir has it working no problem. >>>> >>>> :( >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >>>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN >>>>> locked cards. >>>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran >>>>>> <robert@cotran.ca>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia >>>>>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal >>>>>> and Geir! >>>>>> >>>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >>>>>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >>>>>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a >>>>>> new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into >>>>>> the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the >>>>>> red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for >>>>>> about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then >>>>>> 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED >>>>>> flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then >>>>>> then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so fast >>>>>> that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay like >>>>>> this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all over >>>>>> again from the 10, 9 on green. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >>>>>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >>>>>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can try >>>>>> next. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>>>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>>>>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of the >>>>>>> Twizy guides first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>>>>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get a >>>>>>> clean config to start with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in >>>>>>> the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a >>>>>>> look at the state machine diagram in the main docs folder. >>>>>>> If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc you've >>>>>>> been following and what you have done so far. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check if >>>>>>> the SIM card has contact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and obtains >>>>>>> the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15 1). >>>>>>> I've currently got one positive and one negative test >>>>>>> feedback for this version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>>>>>> account on github: >>>>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>>>>>> ...hex: >>>>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data >>>>>>> dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need >>>>>>> qualified beta test feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. I >>>>>>>> wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday >>>>>>>> afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have >>>>>>>> the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total >>>>>>>> newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig for >>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn on >>>>>>>> the climate control system to warm up/cool down the car >>>>>>>> at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. Tracking >>>>>>>> it is cool, but controlling it is even better. I'm used >>>>>>>> to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and >>>>>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly >>>>>>>> (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the >>>>>>>> firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the >>>>>>>> car-control code? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 >>>>>>>> Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash together >>>>>>>> really fast. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to getting >>>>>>>> this working! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>>>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Robert, I don't know about the 12V battery system on the Kia -- if the aux battery is small, the OVMS may have brought the battery down.
ground connection soldered to a couple pins => you could also check your soldering.
The OVMS App displays the supply voltage on the vehicle info page, and you can request it using the text command "DIAG". Btw: the current Android App allows to send text commands from the notifications page. Regards, Michael Am 05.11.2015 um 03:20 schrieb Robert Cotran:
Hi guys,
So I just went out to the car to turn it on with the OVMS module connected to see if that made a difference. As soon as I did so, a cooling fan came on at the front of the vehicle and the dashboard lit up with flashing lights and the message "Check vehicle EV system", and something like "Stop driving and verify power supply". Worried that it was the OVMS causing that, I unplugged the OBDII plug and as soon as I did so, everything went back to normal.
Has anyone else experienced this?
On 11/4/2015 7:58 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
Rob,
My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII. Once the car is turned off, the module should continue to know the last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at some stage.
Regards, Mark.
On 5 Nov, 2015, at 6:46 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote:
Hi guys,
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.
However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something else?
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any other network traffic when it's off.
Is there a way for me to tap into the tmc.openvehicles.com <http://tmc.openvehicles.com> server with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are sending it? How often do the modules update the server?
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.
Rob
On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
I'm up and running!
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.
PHEW!
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll do some reading about that.
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific functionality.
Woohoo! this is awesome!
Rob
On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran wrote:
OK so I had/have two problems:
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple pins.
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old SIM that might work.
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...
Rob
On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
Regards, Mark
> On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do have a > USB-serial cable. Thanks for that suggestion! > > Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a > 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of > 100mA, is that true? If it is true, a small 12V adapter should > be fine... > > Thanks! > > Rob > > On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote: >> The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable >> and a laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and >> have a look at the messages from the modem. That should tell >> you exactly what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and >> they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely >> the SIM connection. >> >> Regards, Mark. >> >>> On 2 Nov, 2015, at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran <robert@cotran.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all again, >>> >>> I'm really not having any luck here. >>> >>> I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all do >>> exactly the same thing. I haven't read anywhere about the red >>> and green lights being on simultaneously and flashing like >>> crazy so I'm really starting to suspect that the hardware is >>> defective. I wish I had another kit lying around. >>> >>> The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it has >>> never been used in a car before. >>> >>> I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see if the >>> same thing happens. >>> >>> I did have a question. If I simply power the OBDII port on >>> the kit with 12V, should it power up normally? I could test >>> that... >>> >>> Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services >>> unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get this >>> going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I have this >>> working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US who would be >>> willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can snoop and try to >>> copy the HVAC calls. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>> Rob, >>>> >>>> green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone could >>>> use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting and again >>>> removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit. >>>> >>>> Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's >>>> unlikely you stumbled across two of them. >>>> >>>> I once had the effect of a flash process that failed without >>>> any error output, so you also should try re-flashing. >>>> >>>> Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM slot >>>> soldering causing data errors or bad antenna connection. As >>>> your module has been used before (I assume?) that's quite >>>> unlikely. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>> Hi again, >>>>> >>>>> I tried the SIM card in a cell phone. Worked perfectly, got >>>>> data connection and was able to download data. >>>>> >>>>> I doubt it's locked, it's brand new. The phone didn't ask >>>>> me for a code. >>>>> >>>>> I verified the antennas are plugged correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does that happen? >>>>> >>>>> Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an issue? >>>>> Then again, Geir has it working no problem. >>>>> >>>>> :( >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> have you tried the SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did this work? >>>>>> Is the Card locked with a Pin code? OVMS can't handle PIN >>>>>> locked cards. >>>>>> Do you connect the Antennas to their right plugs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye >>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 01.11.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Robert Cotran >>>>>>> <robert@cotran.ca>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm happy to see that it looks like development of the Kia >>>>>>> Soul EV firmware is going to continue, thanks to Micheal >>>>>>> and Geir! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went out and bought a dedicated SIM for the OVMS kit >>>>>>> yesterday and flashed the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul >>>>>>> firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as well since this is a >>>>>>> new installation and there's nothing on the kit yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's still not working unfortunately. When I plug it into >>>>>>> the car, the red LED comes on for a few seconds, then the >>>>>>> red and green flash a bit, and then they both stay off for >>>>>>> about 10-15 seconds, then the green flashes 10 times, then >>>>>>> 9 times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and then the red LED >>>>>>> flashes a few times while the green is flashing, and then >>>>>>> then both start to flash on and off extremely fast, so >>>>>>> fast that it looks like they are both on solid. They stay >>>>>>> like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and then it starts all >>>>>>> over again from the 10, 9 on green. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've followed the Roadster guide to getting this up and >>>>>>> running, I've cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried two >>>>>>> different SIM cards, so I'm a bit lost as to what I can >>>>>>> try next. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/31/2015 5:20 PM, Michael Balzer wrote: >>>>>>>> Welcome Robert :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the same as for other >>>>>>>> models. So you can follow the Roadster guide or one of >>>>>>>> the Twizy guides first. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You wrote to me you got the module from a friend, so you >>>>>>>> should first flash once without preserving EEPROM to get >>>>>>>> a clean config to start with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Follow Marks link to the support FAQ if you get stuck in >>>>>>>> the config process. To diag LED flash codes, also take a >>>>>>>> look at the state machine diagram in the main docs >>>>>>>> folder. If you need help, describe exactly (!) which doc >>>>>>>> you've been following and what you have done so far. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you should first check >>>>>>>> if the SIM card has contact. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kia V0.1 only reads some first status messages and >>>>>>>> obtains the VIN if you enable CAN write access (FEATURE >>>>>>>> 15 1). I've currently got one positive and one negative >>>>>>>> test feedback for this version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would be great if you could also check V0.2 -- it's in my >>>>>>>> account on github: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System >>>>>>>> ...hex: >>>>>>>> http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This _should_ be able to show some first OBD diag data >>>>>>>> dumps (DEBUG 1 / 5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need >>>>>>>> qualified beta test feedback. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert Cotran: >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's email from yesterday. >>>>>>>>> I wasn't on the mailing list until late yesterday >>>>>>>>> afternoon, hence I'm not able to click reply. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in Canada which doesn't have >>>>>>>>> the UVO services, so this is of great interest to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have the OVMS kit in front of me, but I'm a total >>>>>>>>> newbie, so I'm reading through some guides to get started. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just wanted to say that I'll gladly be the guinea pig >>>>>>>>> for this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I'd REALLY like is to have a way to remotely turn >>>>>>>>> on the climate control system to warm up/cool down the >>>>>>>>> car at will. Hopefully that's a remote possibility. >>>>>>>>> Tracking it is cool, but controlling it is even better. >>>>>>>>> I'm used to a Tesla (my other car), so I am quite spoiled. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I did get Micheal's firmware installed on the OVMS and >>>>>>>>> hooked it up to the car but it's not booting properly >>>>>>>>> (based on status LEDs). Can that be because of the >>>>>>>>> firmware or is the bootup sequence separate from the >>>>>>>>> car-control code? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9 Green, 10 Green, 9 >>>>>>>>> Green, then a few reds, then green and red flash >>>>>>>>> together really fast. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried sending text messages to the board and no dice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated, looking forward to >>>>>>>>> getting this working! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>>>>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Balzer * Helkenberger Weg 9 * D-58256 Ennepetal >>>> Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OvmsDev mailing list >>>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >>>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OvmsDev mailing list >>> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> >>> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OvmsDev mailing list >> OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk >> http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev > > _______________________________________________ > OvmsDev mailing list > OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk <mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk> > http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev
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Hi, did anybody have a plan to make the App works with the Apple Watch? Bye Michael J.
Hi Michael, I don’t even know if there are any iOS-developers here at the moment. I’m playing around with the iOS-app, but I can’t make the app work with the Open Chargemap when I compile it, so I’m not really comfortable with it yet. Also I don’t have nor have any plans to buy an Apple Watch in the near future. Regards, Geir
13. des. 2015 kl. 14.01 skrev Michael Jochum <mikeljo@me.com>:
Hi,
did anybody have a plan to make the App works with the Apple Watch?
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I wrote a little shell iOS app that uses the HTML API to get the most recently reported stats with a companion Watch OS app to show those stats. I was just curious to see what writing a Watch app would be like. I was using the Watch OS 1.0 SDK, so even that skeleton app is now obsolete. It seems like an interesting project, but not something I have time to take on anytime soon. Tom On 12/13/15, 5:35 AM, "Geir Øyvind Vælidalo" <ovmsdev-bounces@lists.teslaclub.hk on behalf of geir@validalo.net> wrote:
Hi Michael,
I don’t even know if there are any iOS-developers here at the moment. I’m playing around with the iOS-app, but I can’t make the app work with the Open Chargemap when I compile it, so I’m not really comfortable with it yet. Also I don’t have nor have any plans to buy an Apple Watch in the near future.
Regards, Geir
13. des. 2015 kl. 14.01 skrev Michael Jochum <mikeljo@me.com>:
Hi,
did anybody have a plan to make the App works with the Apple Watch?
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