If additional metrics are being added for the dcdc converter I suggest including the following as well as temp: v.c.12v.voltage 14.2V v.c.12v.current 10A v.c.12v.power 0.14kW For the Leaf I have found the dcdc output voltage, still looking for a current reading to calculate the power output. Cheers Derek
Good point! For the e-Up we can also get voltage & current of the dcdc converter :) Am 19.12.20 um 20:51 schrieb Derek Caudwell:
If additional metrics are being added for the dcdc converter I suggest including the following as well as temp:
v.c.12v.voltage 14.2V v.c.12v.current 10A v.c.12v.power 0.14kW
For the Leaf I have found the dcdc output voltage, still looking for a current reading to calculate the power output.
Cheers Derek
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 22:27, sharkcow <sharkcow@gmx.de> wrote:
Good point! For the e-Up we can also get voltage & current of the dcdc converter :)
On the i3 so far I have lots of info on the DcDc converter - I can see the current the converter is putting out. but so far I didn’t find current figure for the actual 12v battery. Steve
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I think voltage should be practically always identical at the DC converter output to the 12V battery, as there normally isn't anything between, and it should also be identical to the 12V reading of the module, as it's powered directly by the 12V circuit. 12V current will probably normally only be available as the DC converter output, which partially charges the 12V battery, but probably mostly powers the 12V components. So yes, that's probably misplaced unter "v.b." – my bad. Does any of your cars provide a 12V current reading at the battery? Or a temperature of that battery? These could help diagnose 12V battery issues early. But the voltage is normally sufficient to estimate degradation. That's how my Twizy 12V battery looked like when it finally died… luckily not by rapid unscheduled disassembly, but it sure smelled like due… Regards, Michael Am 20.12.20 um 03:58 schrieb Steve Davies:
On the i3 so far I have lots of info on the DcDc converter - I can see the current the converter is putting out. but so far I didn’t find current figure for the actual 12v battery.
Am 19.12.20 um 21:27 schrieb sharkcow:
Good point! For the e-Up we can also get voltage & current of the dcdc converter :)
Am 19.12.20 um 20:51 schrieb Derek Caudwell:
If additional metrics are being added for the dcdc converter I suggest including the following as well as temp:
v.c.12v.voltage 14.2V v.c.12v.current 10A v.c.12v.power 0.14kW
For the Leaf I have found the dcdc output voltage, still looking for a current reading to calculate the power output.
Cheers Derek
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Hi Michael Spectacular pictures :-) The VW e-Up gives us on the Comfort CAN at 0x571 with 5+(.05*d0) the voltage of the 12V battery. Regards Chris
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 11:38, Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de> wrote:
luckily not by rapid unscheduled disassembly, but it sure smelled like due…
Your batter looks about due for replacement ;-) I've had a rapid unscheduled disassembly as you call it. Certainly woke me up when I turned my car key and there was a loud bang. I don't think I ever got all of the battery casing off the bottom of the bonnet / hood. Steve
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 11:38, Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de> wrote:
Does any of your cars provide a 12V current reading at the battery? Or a temperature of that battery? These could help diagnose 12V battery issues early. But the voltage is normally sufficient to estimate degradation.
I have dozens of items relating to the 12v battery - but as far as I can see it's all logged history of charge cycles including SOC and temps start and end of charging cycles. eg: #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_TEMP_LADEBEGINN_WERT (RXBUF_SCHAR(69)) #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_TEMP_LADEBEGINN_WERT_UNIT '°C' #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_TEMP_LADEBEGINN_WERT_TYPE char // Set 1 (last) - temperature of the 12V battery when starting the 12V battery charging process / Satz 1 // (letzter) - Temperatur der 12V-Batterie beim Starten des 12V-Batterie Ladevorgangs ... #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_SOC_LADEENDE_WERT (RXBUF_UCHAR(81)/2.0f) #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_SOC_LADEENDE_WERT_UNIT '%' #define I3_RES_EDME_STAT_E1_12V_BATTERIE_SOC_LADEENDE_WERT_TYPE float // Sentence 1 (last) - state of charge of the 12V battery when the 12V battery charging process is ended (= state // of charge when starting if charging is not possible) / Satz 1 (letzter) - Ladezustand der 12V-Batterie beim // Beenden des 12V-Batterie Ladevorgangs (=Ladezustand beim Starten wenn Laden nicht möglich) I can't find anything specifically for temp and SOC "right now". Steve
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