[Ovmsdev] VW e-Up project
Chris van der Meijden
chris at arachnon.de
Thu Mar 19 04:49:18 HKT 2020
Hi Michael,
thanx for the merge. Looking forward to the new official release :-)
I will edit the documentation and make a new pull request for that.
>From there on I will take your advice on triggering the pull requests
on important changes.
Greetinx
Chris
Am Mittwoch, den 18.03.2020, 12:39 +0100 schrieb Michael Balzer:
> Chris,
>
>
>
> I'll merge the Android PR this evening, probably also directly
> publish a new App version for this.
>
>
>
> Create pull requests whenever you think it's appropriate. Good
> practice is creating PRs on bug fixes and on completed feature
> units
> or important changes. We announce new major releases on this
> list,
> asking for any open developments that should be included.
>
>
>
> The whole documentation is part of the git repository so can be
> changed by you as well. The intro page is created from the top
> level
> "README.md" file.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 18.03.20 um 08:25 schrieb Chris van
> der Meijden:
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Super! Thank you very much.
> >
> >
> >
> > This feels realy good :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > As we have rapid changes of the code and the documentation,
> > can you tell me how often it is best practice to create new
> > pull
> > requests?
> >
> >
> >
> > Oh, and is it possible to link the VW e-Up documentation in
> > the introduction page:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/introduction.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx again
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetinx
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 18.03.2020, 13:44 +0800 schrieb Mark
> > Webb-Johnson:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It looks workable to me. I have merged in the firmware
> > > pull
> > > request, and will leave the Android one up to Michael.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Congratulations! Looking forward to seeing how
> > > this develops over time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Documentation has appeared online now:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehi
> > > cle_vweup/docs/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think this should still be treated as
> > > experimental for the moment, until we have had time to
> > > get
> > > some experience with it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards, Mark.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 18 Mar 2020, at 5:22 AM, Chris van der
> > > > Meijden <chris at arachnon.de>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > after some ups and downs I think we now
> > > > have now enough functionality to officialy
> > > > ask for
> > > > commit to my pull request for integration
> > > > of the VW
> > > > e-Up to the OVMS master :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > An overview of the supported and tested
> > > > (yes, with a real VW e-Up :-)) features you
> > > > can find
> > > > here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Moni
> > > > toring-System-
> > > > 3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/docs/ind
> > > > ex.rst
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also added the car to the Android app.
> > > > The app is working flawless with the car,
> > > > so I
> > > > believe that my pull request for the app
> > > > also can be
> > > > committed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We will of course continue the
> > > > development of our module. One major
> > > > working area is
> > > > still the remote climate control. This is
> > > > more
> > > > complicated than I hoped. We are now
> > > > connected to
> > > > the car directly through the comfort CAN
> > > > bus to get
> > > > easy access to some simple ID's. But we
> > > > probably
> > > > need to think about connecting to OBD for
> > > > polling
> > > > ID's for climate control and more battery
> > > > information. This should preferably be done
> > > > over
> > > > bluetooth to avoid laying new wires in the
> > > > car.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So therefor I would also like to ask for
> > > > a brief status on bluetooth in OVMS.
> > > > Bluetooth does
> > > > not compile for me, but I just tried it
> > > > once without
> > > > getting into it deeper. At the moment I'm
> > > > more
> > > > focussed on "the great moment" of getting
> > > > my pull
> > > > request for the OMS master committed :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to the next steps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 08:26 +0100
> > > > schrieb Chris van der Meijden:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx a lot for your nice and helpfull
> > > > > comments. I made some corrections.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please feel free to take an other look
> > > > > at the code on future occasions. I
> > > > > really
> > > > > appreciate the remarks :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetinx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Samstag, den 29.02.2020, 17:05
> > > > > +0100 schrieb Michael Balzer:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > some first comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't use TAB indentation,
> > > > > > only spaces, or add a
> > > > > > ".editorconfig". Tabs
> > > > > > have different width depending on
> > > > > > the editor
> > > > > > & environment. Default
> > > > > > indentation step
> > > > > > for most of the code is two (2)
> > > > > > spaces, except
> > > > > > for some submodules (which have
> > > > > > .editorconfig
> > > > > > files as necessary, for example
> > > > > > the zip
> > > > > > module). See https://editorconfig
> > > > > > .org/
> > > > > > ms_v_bat_12v_voltage is by default
> > > > > > provided by the housekeeping from
> > > > > > the OVMS ADC
> > > > > > (supply voltage), there is
> > > > > > currently no
> > > > > > defined way to override this
> > > > > > (maybe we should
> > > > > > introduce one?). If you set the
> > > > > > metric, you
> > > > > > will let the CAN data fight
> > > > > > against the ADC
> > > > > > measurement (see
> > > > > > housekeeping.cpp). The
> > > > > > advantage of the ADC measurement
> > > > > > is it works
> > > > > > all the time, not only while the
> > > > > > CAN bus is
> > > > > > online.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Checking ms_v_env_awake staleness
> > > > > > to detect the switch-off will
> > > > > > have a delay of
> > > > > > 120 seconds, but I assume that's
> > > > > > just a
> > > > > > temporary solution. I bet there
> > > > > > is some way to
> > > > > > read the state from CAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Overall, nice & clean & good remarks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Btw, a typical CAN value scaling
> > > > > > would be 100/256.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 26.02.20 um 09:07
> > > > > > schrieb Chris van der Meijden:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do have some "first code" now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We found some CAN-ID's for the
> > > > > > > e-Up, so we could start the
> > > > > > > work on some real
> > > > > > > functionality.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At this stage we have:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - SoC (hopefully)
> > > > > > > - VIN
> > > > > > > - Speed
> > > > > > > - 12 volt battery current
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This should be enough to bring
> > > > > > > first action within the app,
> > > > > > > i.e. battery bar
> > > > > > > and parking notice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to invite you to
> > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > a look at the code here:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-
> > > > > > > Vehicle-Monitoring-System-
> > > > > > > 3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle/vehicle.
> > > > > > > cpp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and give me some feedback. I
> > > > > > > wrote
> > > > > > > the code "blind" and everything
> > > > > > > is untested
> > > > > > > because I don't have an OVMS v3
> > > > > > > yet (it is on
> > > > > > > its way) and our e-Up has also
> > > > > > > not arrived yet
> > > > > > > (hoping for week 18 ...). So
> > > > > > > any hint on how
> > > > > > > to do better is welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanx in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020,
> > > > > > > 12:47
> > > > > > > +0100 schrieb Chris van der
> > > > > > > Meijden:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It will take it's time though
> > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At the moment I'm waiting for
> > > > > > > > our e-Up to be delivered.
> > > > > > > > Hopefully in April
> > > > > > > > and that is where the real
> > > > > > > > fun starts.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I forgot to mention my
> > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > with my experiences with
> > > > > > > > OVMS for the Leaf
> > > > > > > > and load of other stuff
> > > > > > > > around e-mobility:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.arachnon.de/wb/pag
> > > > > > > > es/en/nissan-leaf/ovms.php
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just to complete my
> > > > > > > > introduction
> > > > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020,
> > > > > > > > 12:20 +0100 schrieb Michael
> > > > > > > > Balzer:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A quick
> > > > > > > > > addition:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Chris' work will be
> > > > > > > > > covering at least
> > > > > > > > > three new vehicles. The
> > > > > > > > > same vehicle drive
> > > > > > > > > train & electronics is
> > > > > > > > > used on…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > VW e-Up
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SEAT Mii electric
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ŠKODA CITIGOe iV
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > …also called "the new
> > > > > > > > > trio". These are
> > > > > > > > > very attractive
> > > > > > > > > vehicles with a good
> > > > > > > > > balancing of price and
> > > > > > > > > capabilities, and
> > > > > > > > > very good efficiency.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's quite possible the
> > > > > > > > > code can also
> > > > > > > > > partially be used on
> > > > > > > > > other VW vehicles
> > > > > > > > > (e-Golf, ID.3?), as VW
> > > > > > > > > tends to reuse
> > > > > > > > > components & protocols.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Am 05.02.20 um 10:44
> > > > > > > > > schrieb Chris van der
> > > > > > > > > Meijden:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dear OVMS-devs,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > my name is Chris
> > > > > > > > > > van der Meijden
> > > > > > > > > > (devmarxx) and I just
> > > > > > > > > > started a new
> > > > > > > > > > project on integrating the
> > > > > > > > > > VW e-Up into OVMS.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I mailed with
> > > > > > > > > > Michael and he
> > > > > > > > > > provided me with usefull
> > > > > > > > > > procedure hints. I
> > > > > > > > > > forked OVMS V3 and
> > > > > > > > > > the Android code
> > > > > > > > > > into my github account https://github.com/devmarxx?
> > > > > > > > > > tab=repositories and
> > > > > > > > > > commited my changes
> > > > > > > > > > to the code there. I
> > > > > > > > > > also started a pull
> > > > > > > > > > request, but there
> > > > > > > > > > is no hurry,
> > > > > > > > > > because my vehicle code is
> > > > > > > > > > just a template at
> > > > > > > > > > the moment (like the
> > > > > > > > > > Fiat 500 e code).
> > > > > > > > > > The Android code is
> > > > > > > > > > complete, but
> > > > > > > > > > Michael is quite right
> > > > > > > > > > that it would
> > > > > > > > > > confuse the users to
> > > > > > > > > > suddenly see the VW
> > > > > > > > > > e-Up when there is
> > > > > > > > > > still no
> > > > > > > > > > functionality, so no hurry
> > > > > > > > > > there too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > My experience on
> > > > > > > > > > OVMS so far is,
> > > > > > > > > > that have been playing
> > > > > > > > > > with the code for
> > > > > > > > > > about 4 years. It
> > > > > > > > > > started all because
> > > > > > > > > > at that time I could
> > > > > > > > > > not use the Android
> > > > > > > > > > app on my
> > > > > > > > > > Cyanogenmod phone
> > > > > > > > > > due to the "google
> > > > > > > > > > services" popup. I
> > > > > > > > > > checked out the
> > > > > > > > > > source code,
> > > > > > > > > > removed the google check
> > > > > > > > > > line and voila I
> > > > > > > > > > could use the app with
> > > > > > > > > > my Twizy and with
> > > > > > > > > > my server :-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Later we bought a
> > > > > > > > > > Nissan Leaf and I
> > > > > > > > > > came in contact with
> > > > > > > > > > Tom Parker. I had
> > > > > > > > > > already set up the
> > > > > > > > > > OVMS V2 toolchain,
> > > > > > > > > > so it was very nice
> > > > > > > > > > that I could use
> > > > > > > > > > Tom's code to get the
> > > > > > > > > > climate control of
> > > > > > > > > > the Leaf to work.
> > > > > > > > > > Always nice mail
> > > > > > > > > > contact with Tom.
> > > > > > > > > > Amazing the we can
> > > > > > > > > > work together in New
> > > > > > > > > > Zealand and Germany
> > > > > > > > > > without ever have
> > > > > > > > > > met. That where
> > > > > > > > > > good times :-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So now we bought a
> > > > > > > > > > VW e-Up, that will
> > > > > > > > > > be delivered
> > > > > > > > > > hopefully in April.
> > > > > > > > > > So I thought now is
> > > > > > > > > > a good time to get
> > > > > > > > > > started with OVMS for
> > > > > > > > > > the VW e-Up. I
> > > > > > > > > > decided to connect to the
> > > > > > > > > > vehicle not over
> > > > > > > > > > the OBD connector, but
> > > > > > > > > > through the OCU
> > > > > > > > > > plug of the VW e-Up. By
> > > > > > > > > > doing so I hope to
> > > > > > > > > > bypass the
> > > > > > > > > > complicated VW CAN
> > > > > > > > > > TP2.0 protocoll and I
> > > > > > > > > > will have direct
> > > > > > > > > > access to the the VW
> > > > > > > > > > comfort CAN. Time
> > > > > > > > > > will tell if that is
> > > > > > > > > > the right
> > > > > > > > > > decission.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I started a thread
> > > > > > > > > > at the german
> > > > > > > > > > goingelectric forum. Here
> > > > > > > > > > I'll post my
> > > > > > > > > > "adventures" (in German)
> > > > > > > > > > and I hope to find
> > > > > > > > > > some co-coders there
> > > > > > > > > > too https://www.goi
> > > > > > > > > > ngelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=54620
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well .. So far my
> > > > > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > introduction.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to
> > > > > > > > > > do some happy
> > > > > > > > > > coding together.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Greetinx
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > > > >
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