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  <body><div>Hi Michael,</div><div><br></div><div>thanx for the merge. Looking forward to the new official release :-)</div><div><br></div><div>I will edit the documentation and make a new pull request for that. From there on I will take your advice on triggering the pull requests on important changes.</div><div><br></div><div>Greetinx</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><br></div><div>Am Mittwoch, den 18.03.2020, 12:39 +0100 schrieb Michael Balzer:</div><blockquote type="cite">
    Chris,<br>
    <br>
    I'll merge the Android PR this evening, probably also directly
    publish a new App version for this.<br>
    <br>
    Create pull requests whenever you think it's appropriate. Good
    practice is creating PRs on bug fixes and on completed feature units
    or important changes. We announce new major releases on this list,
    asking for any open developments that should be included.<br>
    <br>
    The whole documentation is part of the git repository so can be
    changed by you as well. The intro page is created from the top level
    "README.md" file.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.03.20 um 08:25 schrieb Chris van
      der Meijden:<br>
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      <div>Super! Thank you very much.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>This feels realy good :-)</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>As we have rapid changes of the code and the documentation,
        can you tell me how often it is best practice to create new pull
        requests?</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Oh, and is it possible to link the VW e-Up documentation in
        the introduction page:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><a href="https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/introduction.html" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/introduction.html</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanx again</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Greetinx</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Chris</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Am Mittwoch, den 18.03.2020, 13:44 +0800 schrieb Mark
        Webb-Johnson:</div>
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        It looks workable to me. I have merged in the firmware pull
        request, and will leave the Android one up to Michael.
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        <div class="">Congratulations! Looking forward to seeing how
          this develops over time.</div>
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        </div>
        <div class="">Documentation has appeared online now:</div>
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        </div>
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          <div class=""><a href="https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_vweup/docs/index.html" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.openvehicles.com/en/latest/components/vehicle_vweup/docs/index.html</a></div>
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        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">I think this should still be treated as
          experimental for the moment, until we have had time to get
          some experience with it.</div>
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        </div>
        <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
          <div><br class="">
            <blockquote type="cite" class="">
              <div class="">On 18 Mar 2020, at 5:22 AM, Chris van der
                Meijden <<a href="mailto:chris@arachnon.de" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">chris@arachnon.de</a>>
                wrote:</div>
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                  <div class="">Dear all,</div>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">after some ups and downs I think we now
                    have now enough functionality to officialy ask for
                    commit to my pull request for integration of the VW
                    e-Up to the OVMS master :-)</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">An overview of the supported and tested
                    (yes, with a real VW e-Up :-)) features you can find
                    here</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class=""><a href="https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/docs/index.rst" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/docs/index.rst</a></div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">I also added the car to the Android app.
                    The app is working flawless with the car, so I
                    believe that my pull request for the app also can be
                    committed.</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">We will of course continue the
                    development of our module. One major working area is
                    still the remote climate control. This is more
                    complicated than I hoped. We are now connected to
                    the car directly through the comfort CAN bus to get
                    easy access to some simple ID's. But we probably
                    need to think about connecting to OBD for polling
                    ID's for climate control and more battery
                    information. This should preferably be done over
                    bluetooth to avoid laying new wires in the car.</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">So therefor I would also like to ask for
                    a brief status on bluetooth in OVMS. Bluetooth does
                    not compile for me, but I just tried it once without
                    getting into it deeper. At the moment I'm more
                    focussed on "the great moment" of getting my pull
                    request for the OMS master committed :-)</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">Looking forward to the next steps.</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">Regards</div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class="">Chris </div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
                  <div class=""><br class="">
                  </div>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2020, 08:26 +0100
                    schrieb Chris van der Meijden:</div>
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                    <div class="">Hi Michael,</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">thanx a lot for your nice and helpfull
                      comments. I made some corrections.</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">Please feel free to take an other look
                      at the code on future occasions. I really
                      appreciate the remarks :-)</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">Greetinx</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">Chris</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">Am Samstag, den 29.02.2020, 17:05
                      +0100 schrieb Michael Balzer:</div>
                    <blockquote type="cite" class=""> Chris,<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      some first comments:<br class="">
                      <ul class="">
                        <li class="">Please don't use TAB indentation,
                          only spaces, or add a ".editorconfig". Tabs
                          have different width depending on the editor
                          & environment. Default indentation step
                          for most of the code is two (2) spaces, except
                          for some submodules (which have .editorconfig
                          files as necessary, for example the zip
                          module). See <a href="https://editorconfig.org/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://editorconfig.org/</a></li>
                        <li class="">ms_v_bat_12v_voltage is by default
                          provided by the housekeeping from the OVMS ADC
                          (supply voltage), there is currently no
                          defined way to override this (maybe we should
                          introduce one?). If you set the metric, you
                          will let the CAN data fight against the ADC
                          measurement (see housekeeping.cpp). The
                          advantage of the ADC measurement is it works
                          all the time, not only while the CAN bus is
                          online.<br class="">
                        </li>
                        <li class="">Checking ms_v_env_awake staleness
                          to detect the switch-off will have a delay of
                          120 seconds, but I assume that's just a
                          temporary solution. I bet there is some way to
                          read the state from CAN.<br class="">
                        </li>
                      </ul>
                      Overall, nice & clean & good remarks.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Btw, a typical CAN value scaling would be 100/256.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Regards,<br class="">
                      Michael<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.02.20 um 09:07
                        schrieb Chris van der Meijden:<br class="">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1582704426.2227.1.camel@arachnon.de" class="">
                        <div class="">I do have some "first code" now.</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">We found some CAN-ID's for the
                          e-Up, so we could start the work on some real
                          functionality.</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">At this stage we have:</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">- SoC (hopefully)</div>
                        <div class="">- VIN</div>
                        <div class="">- Speed</div>
                        <div class="">- 12 volt battery current</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">This should be enough to bring
                          first action within the app, i.e. battery bar
                          and parking notice.</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">I would like to invite you to take
                          a look at the code here:</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class=""><a href="https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle/vehicle.cpp" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle/vehicle.cpp</a></div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">and give me some feedback. I wrote
                          the code "blind" and everything is untested
                          because I don't have an OVMS v3 yet (it is on
                          its way) and our e-Up has also not arrived yet
                          (hoping for week 18 ...). So any hint on how
                          to do better is welcome.</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">Thanx in advance.</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">Regards</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">Chris</div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class=""><br class="">
                        </div>
                        <div class="">Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020, 12:47
                          +0100 schrieb Chris van der Meijden:</div>
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                          <div class="">It will take it's time though
                            ...</div>
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                          </div>
                          <div class="">At the moment I'm waiting for
                            our e-Up to be delivered. Hopefully in April
                            and that is where the real fun starts.</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">I forgot to mention my website
                            with my experiences with OVMS for the Leaf
                            and load of other stuff around e-mobility:</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><a href="http://www.arachnon.de/wb/pages/en/nissan-leaf/ovms.php" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://www.arachnon.de/wb/pages/en/nissan-leaf/ovms.php</a></div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">Just to complete my introduction
                            :-)</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">Chris</div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class=""><br class="">
                          </div>
                          <div class="">Am Mittwoch, den 05.02.2020,
                            12:20 +0100 schrieb Michael Balzer:</div>
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                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A quick
                              addition:<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Chris' work will be covering at least
                              three new vehicles. The same vehicle drive
                              train & electronics is used on…<br class="">
                              <ul class="">
                                <li class="">VW e-Up<br class="">
                                </li>
                                <li class="">SEAT Mii electric  <br class="">
                                </li>
                                <li class="">ŠKODA CITIGOe iV<br class="">
                                </li>
                              </ul>
                              …also called "the new trio". These are
                              very attractive vehicles with a good
                              balancing of price and capabilities, and
                              very good efficiency.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              It's quite possible the code can also
                              partially be used on other VW vehicles
                              (e-Golf, ID.3?), as VW tends to reuse
                              components & protocols.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Regards,<br class="">
                              Michael<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Am 05.02.20 um 10:44 schrieb Chris van der
                              Meijden:<br class="">
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1580895853.4613.2.camel@arachnon.de" class="">
                              <div style="" class="">Dear OVMS-devs,</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">my name is Chris
                                van der Meijden (devmarxx) and I just
                                started a new project on integrating the
                                VW e-Up into OVMS.</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">I mailed with
                                Michael and he provided me with usefull
                                procedure hints. I forked OVMS V3 and
                                the Android code into my github account <a href="https://github.com/devmarxx?tab=repositories" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://github.com/devmarxx?tab=repositories</a> and
                                commited my changes to the code there. I
                                also started a pull request, but there
                                is no hurry, because my vehicle code is
                                just a template at the moment (like the
                                Fiat 500 e code). The Android code is
                                complete, but Michael is quite right
                                that it would confuse the users to
                                suddenly see the VW e-Up when there is
                                still no functionality, so no hurry
                                there too.</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">My experience on
                                OVMS so far is, that have been playing
                                with the code for about 4 years. It
                                started all because at that time I could
                                not use the Android app on my
                                Cyanogenmod phone due to the "google
                                services" popup. I checked out the
                                source code, removed the google check
                                line and voila I could use the app with
                                my Twizy and with my server :-)</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">Later we bought a
                                Nissan Leaf and I came in contact with
                                Tom Parker. I had already set up the
                                OVMS V2 toolchain, so it was very nice
                                that I could use Tom's code to get the
                                climate control of the Leaf to work.
                                Always nice mail contact with Tom.
                                Amazing the we can work together in New
                                Zealand and Germany without ever have
                                met. That where good times :-)</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">So now we bought a
                                VW e-Up, that will be delivered
                                hopefully in April. So I thought now is
                                a good time to get started with OVMS for
                                the VW e-Up. I decided to connect to the
                                vehicle not over the OBD connector, but
                                through the OCU plug of the VW e-Up. By
                                doing so I hope to bypass the
                                complicated VW CAN TP2.0 protocoll and I
                                will have direct access to the the VW
                                comfort CAN. Time will tell if that is
                                the right decission.</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">I started a thread
                                at the german goingelectric forum. Here
                                I'll post my "adventures" (in German)
                                and I hope to find some co-coders there
                                too <a href="https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=54620" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=54620</a></div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">Well .. So far my
                                little introduction. </div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">Looking forward to
                                do some happy coding together.</div>
                              <div style="" class=""><br class="">
                              </div>
                              <div style="" class="">Greetinx</div>
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