[Ovmsdev] VW e-Up read/poll via OBD is working

Chris van der Meijden chris at arachnon.de
Thu Aug 13 02:49:53 HKT 2020


Perfekt :-)
Then
// Migrate vehicle ID VWUP to VWUP.T26
if (GetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type") == "VWUP")
   {   SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type", "VWUP.T26");   }
should be enough.
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 20:39 +0200 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>     The vehicle type name is no configuration parameter, it's a fixed
>     property of the vehicle class.
> 
>     
> 
>     The vehicle to use is configured by the vehicle type only.
> 
>     
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Michael
> 
>     
> 
>     
> 
>     
> 
>     Am 12.08.20 um 20:24 schrieb Chris van
>       der Meijden:
> 
>     
> 
>     
> >       
> >       Sorry, I'm just not sure if we are talking about the same
> >         param ...
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       We now define VWUP.T26A like this
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       MyVehicleFactory.RegisterVehicle<VWeUpT26>("VWUP.T26", "VW e-
> > Up (Komfort CAN)");
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Before the splitting we had ("VWUP", "VW e-Up") at
> >         RegisterVehicle. 
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       My question is do I need to change "VW e-Up" to "VW e-Up
> > (Komfort
> >           CAN)") in the upgrade
> >         function or is this done automaticly when I change "VWUP"
> > to
> >         "VWUP.T26".
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Thanx
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Chris
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 19:57 +0200 schrieb Michael
> >         Balzer:
> >       
> > >  Config → Vehicle → Vehicle name
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         It doesn't have a technical use yet, it won't get filled
> > >         automatically. It's just a free vehicle name (as the
> > > placeholder
> > >         says).
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Regards,
> > > 
> > >         Michael
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Am 12.08.20 um 19:34 schrieb Chris
> > >           van der Meijden:
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > >           
> > > >           Hey Michael
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Thanx.
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Does the human readable vehicle ID description ("VW
> > > > e-Up
> > > >             (Komfort CAN)") matter at all, or will it be filled
> > > > out
> > > >             automaticly by the new vehicle ID configuration? If
> > > > not, how
> > > >             do I set that param?
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Regards
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Chris
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 19:18 +0200 schrieb
> > > > Michael
> > > >             Balzer:
> > > >           
> > > > >  Chris,
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             yes, that would do. But…
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             a) you shouldn't overwrite the vehicle name,
> > > > > that's a user
> > > > >             configuration, and
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             b) if you would overwrite the vehicle name, you
> > > > > would set
> > > > >             "name" in "vehicle", not "vehicle.name" in "auto"
> > > > > (which
> > > > >             doesn't exist).
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Am 12.08.20 um 18:59 schrieb
> > > > >               Chris van der Meijden:
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > >             
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Hi Michael
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               I found some time for the "hanging upgrade"
> > > > > > issue
> > > > > >                 since we splitted the vehicle ID from VWUP
> > > > > > to VWUP.T26
> > > > > >                 and VWUP.OBD.
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Would this code in ovms_config.cpp within
> > > > > >                 OvmsConfig::upgrade() prevent the "hanging"
> > > > > > after an
> > > > > >                 upgrade?
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               // Migrate vehicle ID VWUP to VWUP.T26
> > > > > >               if (GetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type") ==
> > > > > > "VWUP")
> > > > > >                  {
> > > > > >                  SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type",
> > > > > > "VWUP.T26");
> > > > > >                  SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.name", "VW
> > > > > > e-Up (Komfort CAN)");
> > > > > >                  }
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               If so, I would put that in a pull request as
> > > > > > soon as
> > > > > >                 we have a new "release worthy" version?
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Thanx for checking.
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Greetinx
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Chris
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 11:34 +0200
> > > > > > schrieb
> > > > > >                 Michael Balzer:
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > >  Chris,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 the framework shouldn't get stuck if a
> > > > > > > vehicle cannot be
> > > > > > >                 loaded, it should fall back to booting
> > > > > > > without a
> > > > > > >                 vehicle. I'll have a look at that.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Btw, to automatically update user
> > > > > > > configurations, you
> > > > > > >                 can extend OvmsConfig::upgrade(). Users
> > > > > > > shouldn't need
> > > > > > >                 to take care of special update
> > > > > > > preparations.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Am 31.07.20 um 11:05
> > > > > > >                   schrieb Chris van der Meijden:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Welcome to my trial and error T26A
> > > > > > > > world :-))
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   This morning I flashed the new
> > > > > > > > T26A/OBD version
> > > > > > > >                     to my OVMS. After the OTA flash the
> > > > > > > > device did not
> > > > > > > >                     come back to the networks. Only USB
> > > > > > > > terminal access
> > > > > > > >                     was left.
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   The reason was, that I did no remove
> > > > > > > > the old
> > > > > > > >                     vehicle config "VWUP" before
> > > > > > > > flashing and rebooting.
> > > > > > > >                     The new image has "VWUP.T26" and
> > > > > > > > "VWUP.OBD" as
> > > > > > > >                     vehicle config, but no more "VWUP".
> > > > > > > > So the device
> > > > > > > >                     could not find its vehicle config
> > > > > > > > and got stuck.
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   From the USB terminal I bootet back
> > > > > > > > to OTA_0,
> > > > > > > >                     said in the vehicle config that my
> > > > > > > > vehicle was a
> > > > > > > >                     Nissan Leaf and then booted back to
> > > > > > > > OTA_1. The
> > > > > > > >                     device came up with the new
> > > > > > > > firmware and I could
> > > > > > > >                     change the vehicle config to "VWUP
> > > > > > > > (Komfort CAN)".
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Everything is now running fine ...
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   I will write this down in the
> > > > > > > > documentation for
> > > > > > > >                     the e-Up.
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Greetinx
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Chris
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 09:50
> > > > > > > > +0200 schrieb
> > > > > > > >                     Michael Balzer:
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > >  Soko,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     you only had the door open, but
> > > > > > > > > not turned on the
> > > > > > > > >                     car? If there are additional
> > > > > > > > > buses, they may be
> > > > > > > > >                     switched off until the car is
> > > > > > > > > turned on…
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     The OBD connector scheme is the
> > > > > > > > > general pin
> > > > > > > > >                     assignment, I meant the specific
> > > > > > > > > VW e-Up schematics.
> > > > > > > > >                     But if you don't see any voltages
> > > > > > > > > with the car
> > > > > > > > >                     turned on, that's bad news.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     There may still be some command
> > > > > > > > > interface for the
> > > > > > > > >                     OBD gateway to enable live data,
> > > > > > > > > but without any
> > > > > > > > >                     info about the gateway, it will
> > > > > > > > > be hard to even find
> > > > > > > > >                     out how to address it.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     Regards,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     Am 31.07.20 um 09:06
> > > > > > > > >                       schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > >                       Hey guys,
> > > > > > > > > >                       If I did nothing wrong I have
> > > > > > > > > > bad news:
> > > > > > > > > >                       @Michael:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                         With OBD port schematics I
> > > > > > > > > > think you mean this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O
> > > > > > > > > > n-board_diagnostics#OBD-II_diagnostic_connector
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                         Specifically if there are
> > > > > > > > > > some other pins used
> > > > > > > > > >                         than the standard CAN pins
> > > > > > > > > > 6 and 14.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                         So I had the drivers door
> > > > > > > > > > open, no key in
> > > > > > > > > >                         ignition and measured the
> > > > > > > > > > voltages of all pins
> > > > > > > > > >                         in relation to pin 5
> > > > > > > > > > (signal ground). There is
> > > > > > > > > >                         no voltage on any pin
> > > > > > > > > > besides 2.5V on 6 and 14,
> > > > > > > > > >                         and 12V on 16 of course. So
> > > > > > > > > > there are no hidden
> > > > > > > > > >                         CAN buses (or any other
> > > > > > > > > > signals) afaict.
> > > > > > > > > >                       @Mark:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                         Thanks for the hint with
> > > > > > > > > > the can log. It's way
> > > > > > > > > >                         easier than RE Tools for
> > > > > > > > > > just checking if there
> > > > > > > > > >                         is any traffic.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                         Having said that... there
> > > > > > > > > > is no traffic
> > > > > > > > > >                         whatsoever besides what I
> > > > > > > > > > am polling and the
> > > > > > > > > >                         reply. Even when ignition
> > > > > > > > > > is on I only see the
> > > > > > > > > >                         poll and the reply on the
> > > > > > > > > > can log
> > > > > > > > > >                       So it seems devmarxx was
> > > > > > > > > > right: The gateway
> > > > > > > > > >                         shields everything and
> > > > > > > > > > there are even no other
> > > > > > > > > >                         hidden signals on the OBD
> > > > > > > > > > port.
> > > > > > > > > >                       I'm happy to try any other
> > > > > > > > > > ideas you guys have.
> > > > > > > > > >                         Just let me know!
> > > > > > > > > >                       Soko
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > >                       On 31.07.2020 02:11,
> > > > > > > > > >                         Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         If you are just looking
> > > > > > > > > > > for traffic on the CAN
> > > > > > > > > > >                         bus, a simple can log
> > > > > > > > > > > would be the easiest.
> > > > > > > > > > >                         Assuming you are on USB
> > > > > > > > > > > console, it is:
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           OVMS# log level verbose
> > > > > > > > > > >                             canlog-monitor
> > > > > > > > > > >                           OVMS# can log start
> > > > > > > > > > > monitor crtd
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           If you are using ssh,
> > > > > > > > > > > you need to add a:
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             OVMS# log monitor yes
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           To stop the logging:
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             OVMS# can log stop
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           Documentation here:
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             https://docs.openvehi
> > > > > > > > > > > cles.com/en/latest/crtd/can_logging.html
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                               For my work, I
> > > > > > > > > > > personally prefer this
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 arrangement:
> > > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                               OVMS# can log start
> > > > > > > > > > > tcpserver
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 transmit gvret-b
> > > > > > > > > > > :23
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                             And then I
> > > > > > > > > > > use SavvyCAN on
> > > > > > > > > > >                               a laptop to connect
> > > > > > > > > > > over wifi and work.
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           Regarding the ‘re’
> > > > > > > > > > > system, it is a
> > > > > > > > > > >                             work-in-progress, and
> > > > > > > > > > > not currently
> > > > > > > > > > >                             documented. It is
> > > > > > > > > > > still kind of a mess at
> > > > > > > > > > >                             the moment
> > > > > > > > > > > (particularly for multiplexed
> > > > > > > > > > >                             message IDs), as I
> > > > > > > > > > > continue to work on DBC
> > > > > > > > > > >                             integration. That
> > > > > > > > > > > said, it is basically
> > > > > > > > > > >                             functional.
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         To start it:
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             OVMS# re start
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           To stop it:
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             OVMS# re stop
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           To see discovered IDs:
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                             OVMS# re list
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           It will (by default)
> > > > > > > > > > > listen on all open
> > > > > > > > > > >                             CAN buses, and show
> > > > > > > > > > > you the discovered ID,
> > > > > > > > > > >                             message count,
> > > > > > > > > > > interval (in ms), and last
> > > > > > > > > > >                             message seen.
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                           It has some rudimentary
> > > > > > > > > > > ability to
> > > > > > > > > > >                             monitor active
> > > > > > > > > > > polling protocols with ‘re
> > > > > > > > > > >                             obdii extended <min>
> > > > > > > > > > > <max>’ (or
> > > > > > > > > > >                             standard), specifying
> > > > > > > > > > > the range of IDs used
> > > > > > > > > > >                             by the ECUs.
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > > >                           Regards, Mark
> > > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > > > >                               On 30 Jul 2020,
> > > > > > > > > > > > at 11:56 PM,
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                 Soko <ovms at soko
> > > > > > > > > > > > .cc>
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   @devmarxx: Is
> > > > > > > > > > > > there any
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     doc/guide
> > > > > > > > > > > > on how to use this RE
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Tools?
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   @Michael:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I know.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     You would
> > > > > > > > > > > > have done my 1-day work in
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     5 mins. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > know C++ but I don't know
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     the OVMS
> > > > > > > > > > > > framework. But its like
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     with any
> > > > > > > > > > > > project: The issue is not
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     the
> > > > > > > > > > > > language, its the framework.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Until you
> > > > > > > > > > > > have yours you
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     have to
> > > > > > > > > > > > settle with me unfortunately
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   My cousin has
> > > > > > > > > > > > a working
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     VCDS HEX
> > > > > > > > > > > > interface and I have an
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     y-adapter
> > > > > > > > > > > > so I can listen with an
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     ELM327
> > > > > > > > > > > > adapter to the commands VCDS
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     is sending.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I can find any car
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     status
> > > > > > > > > > > > there. Device 09 is a good
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     hint. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   But as you
> > > > > > > > > > > > said: I have
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     still have
> > > > > > > > > > > > to poll this, even if I
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     find a
> > > > > > > > > > > > status.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   I can't say
> > > > > > > > > > > > (of course) if
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > another CAN bus @ OBD port.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     All this
> > > > > > > > > > > > CAN/OBD/Bus stuff is
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     completely
> > > > > > > > > > > > new to me.. ModBus
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     RTU/TCP,
> > > > > > > > > > > > MBus etc. I would know ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   So if you can
> > > > > > > > > > > > point me in
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     any
> > > > > > > > > > > > direction what to try - or what
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     you would
> > > > > > > > > > > > do - I happy to dig into
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     it.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Soko
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   PS: Any idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > when you'll
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     get your
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mii?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   On
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     30.07.2020
> > > > > > > > > > > > 17:14, Michael Balzer
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     If only I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > had my Mii already…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     If the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OBD port is shielded from the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     CAN
> > > > > > > > > > > > > traffic, you need to poll some
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     device.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ECU = Engine Control Unit =
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     device
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 01.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     I would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > suspect the basic car status
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     info to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be available from device 09
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     (central
> > > > > > > > > > > > > electrics), but it seems no
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     PIDs have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > been RE'd from there yet.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     So maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you need to derive the info
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     from some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > other mode/status
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     register.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     It's bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > needing to continuosly poll
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     to get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the live status data. Is
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     possibly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another, unfiltered CAN bus
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     available
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at the OBD port?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       30.07.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0 um 16:43 schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Ahhh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I've found
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         Ovm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sVehicle::virtual void
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         Tic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kerXXX(uint32_t ticker);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         Got
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it! This was exactly my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         iss
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ue as I didn't know about any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         fun
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ction which gets called
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         reg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ularly so I could check
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         som
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ething like this...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         It'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s not an ideal situation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         tho
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ugh: I just can slow down the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         pol
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > l after my fail-counter gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > high as I need to check when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > car gets powered again. So
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can do is polling, lets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         say
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > every 60 secs when the car
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > off, and increase it once its
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But there is now way around
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         thi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s 60-sec polling if the only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         thi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ng I can do is poll :(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Afaik
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sharkcow's list below,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         rev
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > erse engineered by him from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         ODB
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > eleven.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       (dev)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > marxx exlpained
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me: There is a gateway
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         bet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ween the CAN-Buses and the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         OBD
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connector in all VW-AG
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         veh
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > icles which only replies to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         pol
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ls and also acts as security
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         gat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > eway if you want to write to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > buses.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       So I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > think I cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         rea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lly do a can log or use re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > l as the OBD interface stays
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         qui
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > et if I'm not polling it...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       And
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as there is no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         oth
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > er vehicle from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         VW,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seat,Skoda,Audi,etc. in OVMS.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         So
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no cheat-sheet :(
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Anyho
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > w... I would need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > poll one ECU (is this the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         cor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rect therm?) which doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         shu
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ts down... or maybe the issue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the OBD-gateway shutting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         dow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > n.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       What
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Soko
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       On
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         30.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07.2020 16:17, Michael Balzer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         wro
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > te:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         S
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oko,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         n
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ice progress :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f you can't detect vehicle
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         s
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tate by listening to regular
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         s
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tatus CAN frames, you can check
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he time since the last poll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eply in the per second ticker.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         A
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > s poll replies normally come in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ast, you should be able to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etect a switch-off by a small
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imeout, say 3 seconds… probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         n
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eed to add a counter, as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         s
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingle poll may get lost /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gnored.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         C
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AN tx errors can be caused by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ther issues as well, so should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         g
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enerally not be interpreted
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         t
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hat way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         B
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ut… are you sure there are no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         s
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tatus frames on the bus? Have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         y
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ou done a can log or tried the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e tool?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         R
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > egards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ichael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         A
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > m
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  30.07.20 um 14:43 schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                          
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Soko:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Want to report success on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    connecting and reading my VW
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    e-Up via OBD cable using the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Poller. As you can see in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    screenshot of the log attached
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    I get an IncomingPollReply(..)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    call and an SoC value of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    33.333% 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Once I turn of the ignition
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    and lock the car though I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    don't get any replies no more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    (line D 793813) and then I get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    can1 errors... I'm polling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    with 10 seconds intervall. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    I know that this is as it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    should be... but my issue is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    I don't have any way to know
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    if the ignition is on, the key
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    is in, the car is running, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    car is charging as the PIDs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    are not known for such values
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    (afaik by the lists of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sharkcow https://www.goingelectric.d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e/wiki/Liste-der-OBD2-Codes/).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    So what would be the best
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    approach to change the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    different polling states? Can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    I somehow get called (in my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    vehicle-class) if an can-error
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    is thrown? Then I would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    increase the poll frequency. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    Any suggestions? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                        
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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