[Ovmsdev] Time for 3.2.003? / Issue #241
Michael Balzer
dexter at expeedo.de
Thu Sep 19 16:52:59 HKT 2019
OK, but 700 MB is a bit exaggerated now ;)
Regards,
Michael
Am 19.09.19 um 10:22 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
> OK, I’ve built:
>
> 2019-09-19 MWJ 3.2.005 OTA release
> - Default module/debug.tasks to FALSE
> Users that volunteer to submit tasks debug historical data to the Open Vehicles
> project, should (with appreciation) set:
> config set module debug.tasks yes
> This will be transmit approximately 700MB of data a month (over cellular/wifi).
>
> 2019-09-19 MWJ 3.2.004 OTA release
> - Skipped for Chinese superstitous reasons
>
>
> In EAP now, and I will announce.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
>> On 19 Sep 2019, at 3:34 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Am 19.09.19 um 09:29 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>> I’m just worried about the users who don’t know about this new feature. When they deploy this version, they suddenly start sending 6MB of
>>> data a month up to us.
>>>
>>> I think the ‘fix’ is just to change ovms_module.c:
>>>
>>> MyConfig.GetParamValueBool("module", "debug.tasks", true)
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> MyConfig.GetParamValueBool("module", "debug.tasks", false)
>>>
>>>
>>> That would then only submit these logs for those that explicitly turn it on?
>>>
>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>
>>>> On 19 Sep 2019, at 3:23 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I didn't think about this being an issue elsewhere -- german data plans typically start at minimum 100 MB/month flat (that's my
>>>> current plan at 3 € / month).
>>>>
>>>> No need for a new release, it can be turned off OTA by issueing
>>>>
>>>> config set module debug.tasks no
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.09.19 um 09:08 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>>>> Yep:
>>>>>
>>>>> 758 bytes * (86400 / 300) * 30 = 6.5MB/month
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is going over data (not SD). Presumably cellular data for a large portion of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to default this to OFF, and make a 3.2.004 to avoid this becoming an issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19 Sep 2019, at 2:04 PM, Stephen Casner <casner at acm.org <mailto:casner at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's 6.55MB/month, unless you have unusually short months! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In what space is that data stored? A log written to SD? That's not
>>>>>> likely to fill up the SD card too fast, but what happens if no SD card
>>>>>> is installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To enable CPU usage statistics, apply the changes to sdkconfig
>>>>>>>> included.
>>>>>>>> New history record:
>>>>>>>> - "*-OVM-DebugTasks" v1: <taskcnt,totaltime> + per task:
>>>>>>>> <tasknum,name,state,stack_now,stack_max,stack_total,
>>>>>>>> heap_total,heap_32bit,heap_spi,runtime>
>>>>>>>> Note: CPU core use percentage = runtime / totaltime
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve just noticed that this is enabled by default now (my production build has the sdkconfig updated, as per defaults).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am seeing 758 bytes of history record, every 5 minutes. About 218KB/day, or 654KB/month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should this be opt-in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8 Sep 2019, at 5:43 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've pushed some modifications and improvements to (hopefully) fix the timer issue or at least be able to debug it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some sdkconfig changes are necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The build including these updates is on my edge release as 3.2.002-258-g20ae554b.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Btw: the network restart strategy seems to mitigate issue #241; I've seen a major drop on record repetitions on my server since the
>>>>>>>> rollout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit 99e4e48bdd40b7004c0976f51aba9e3da4ecab53
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Module: add per task CPU usage statistics, add task stats history records
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To enable CPU usage statistics, apply the changes to sdkconfig
>>>>>>>> included. The CPU usage shown by the commands is calculated against
>>>>>>>> the last task status retrieved (or system boot).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Command changes:
>>>>>>>> - "module tasks" -- added CPU (core) usage in percent per task
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New command:
>>>>>>>> - "module tasks data" -- output task stats in history record form
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New config:
>>>>>>>> - [module] debug.tasks -- yes (default) = send task stats every 5 minutes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New history record:
>>>>>>>> - "*-OVM-DebugTasks" v1: <taskcnt,totaltime> + per task:
>>>>>>>> <tasknum,name,state,stack_now,stack_max,stack_total,
>>>>>>>> heap_total,heap_32bit,heap_spi,runtime>
>>>>>>>> Note: CPU core use percentage = runtime / totaltime
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit 950172c216a72beb4da0bc7a40a46995a6105955
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Build config: default timer service task priority raised to 20
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Background: the FreeRTOS timer service shall only be used for very
>>>>>>>> short and non-blocking jobs. We delegate event processing to our
>>>>>>>> events task, anything else in timers needs to run with high
>>>>>>>> priority.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit 31ac19d187480046c16356b80668de45cacbb83d
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DukTape: add build config for task priority, default lowered to 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Background: the DukTape garbage collector shall run on lower
>>>>>>>> priority than tasks like SIMCOM & events
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit e0a44791fbcfb5a4e4cad24c9d1163b76e637b4f
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Server V2: use esp_log_timestamp for timeout detection,
>>>>>>>> add timeout config, limit data records & size per second
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New config:
>>>>>>>> - [server.v2] timeout.rx -- timeout in seconds, default 960
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> commit 684a4ce9525175a910040f0d1ca82ac212fbf5de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Notify: use esp_log_timestamp for creation time instead of monotonictime
>>>>>>>> to harden against timer service starvation / ticker event drops
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 07.09.19 um 10:55 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>>>>>>>>> I think the RTOS timer service task starves. It's running on core 0 with priority 1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Taks on core 0 sorted by priority:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Number of Tasks = 20 Stack: Now Max Total Heap 32-bit SPIRAM C# PRI
>>>>>>>>> 3FFC84A8 6 Blk ipc0 388 500 1024 7788 0 0 0 24
>>>>>>>>> 3FFC77F0 5 Blk OVMS CanRx 428 428 2048 3052 0 31844 0 23
>>>>>>>>> 3FFAFBF4 1 Blk esp_timer 400 656 4096 35928 644 25804 0 22
>>>>>>>>> 3FFD3240 19 Blk wifi 460 2716 3584 43720 0 20 0 22
>>>>>>>>> 3FFC03C4 2 Blk eventTask 448 1984 4608 104 0 0 0 20
>>>>>>>>> 3FFC8F14 17 Blk tiT 500 2308 3072 6552 0 0 * 18
>>>>>>>>> 3FFE14F0 26 Blk OVMS COrx 456 456 4096 0 0 0 0 7
>>>>>>>>> 3FFE19D4 27 Blk OVMS COwrk 476 476 3072 0 0 0 0 7
>>>>>>>>> 3FFCBC34 12 Blk Tmr Svc 352 928 3072 88 0 0 0 1
>>>>>>>>> 3FFE7708 23 Blk mdns 468 1396 4096 108 0 0 0 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's our CanRx, as that only fetches and queues CAN frames, the actual work is done by the listeners. The CO tasks only
>>>>>>>>> run for CANopen jobs, which are few for normal operation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That leaves the system tasks, with main suspect -once again- the wifi blob.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need to know how much CPU time the tasks actually use now. I think I saw some option for this in the FreeRTOS config.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 06.09.19 um 23:15 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>>>>>>>>>> The workaround is based on the monotonictime being updated per second, as do the history record offsets.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, that mechanism doesn't work reliably. That may be an indicator for some bigger underlying issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Example log excerpt:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:07:48.126919 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,0,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:03.089031 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-10,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:05.041574 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-20,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:05.052644 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-30,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:05.063617 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-49,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:05.077527 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-59,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:05.193775 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-70,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:13.190645 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-80,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:22.077994 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-90,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:09:54.590300 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-109,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:11:10.127054 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-119,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:11:16.794200 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-130,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:11:22.455652 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-140,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:12:49.423412 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-150,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:12:49.442096 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-169,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:12:49.461941 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-179,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:14:39.828133 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-190,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:14:39.858144 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-200,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:14:52.020319 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-210,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:14:54.452637 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-229,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:15:12.613935 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-239,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:15:35.223845 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-250,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:16:09.255059 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-260,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:17:31.919754 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-270,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:19:23.366267 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-289,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:21:57.344609 +0200 info main: #173 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-299,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:23:40.082406 +0200 info main: #31 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-1027,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>> 2019-09-06 22:25:58.061883 +0200 info main: #31 C MITPROHB rx msg h 964,-1040,RT-BAT-C,5,86400,2,1,3830,3795,3830,-10,25,25,25,0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This shows the ticker was only run 299 times from 22:07:48 to 22:21:57.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After 22:21:57 the workaround was triggered and did a reconnect. Apparently during that network reinitialization of 103 seconds, the
>>>>>>>>>> per second ticker was run 628 times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That can't be catching up on the event queue, as that queue has only 20 slots. So something strange is going on here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.09.19 um 08:04 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>>>>>>>>>>> Mark & anyone else running a V2 server,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as most cars don't send history records, this also needs the change to the server I just pushed, i.e. server version 2.4.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commits/master
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commits/master>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.09.19 um 19:55 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've pushed the nasty workaround: the v2 server checks for no RX over 15 minutes, then restarts the network (wifi & modem) as
>>>>>>>>>>>> configured for autostart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rolled out on my server in edge as 3.2.002-237-ge075f655.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 05.09.19 um 01:58 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark, you can check your server logs for history messages with ridiculous time offsets:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [sddexter at ns27 server]$ cat log-20190903 | egrep "rx msg h [0-9]+,-[0-9]{4}" | wc -l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 455283
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked my logs and see 12 vehicles showing this. But, 2 only show this for a debugcrash log (which is expected, I guess, if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time is not synced at report time). I’ve got 4 cars with the offset > 10,000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2019, at 4:45 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de> <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've pushed a change that needs some testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had the issue myself now parking at a certain distance from my garage wifi AP, i.e. on the edge of "in", after wifi had been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected for some hours, and with the module still connected via modem. The wifi blob had been trying to connect to the AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for about two hours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As seen before, the module saw no error, just the server responses and commands stopped coming in. I noticed the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface was still "st1" despite wifi having been disconnected and modem connected. The DNS was also still configured for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wifi network, and the interface seemed to have an IP address -- but wasn't pingable from the wifi network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A power cycle of the modem solved the issue without reboot. So the cause may be in the modem/ppp subsystem, or it may be related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in some weird way) to the default interface / DNS setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More tests showed the default interface again/still got set by the wifi blob itself at some point, overriding our modem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prioritization. The events we didn't handle up to now were "sta.connected" and "sta.lostip", so I added these, and the bug didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show up again since then. That doesn't mean anything, so we need to test this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The default interface really shouldn't affect inbound packet routing of an established connection, but there always may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strange bugs lurking in those libs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The change also reimplements the wifi signal strength reading, as the tests also showed that still wasn't working well using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CSI callback. It now seems to be much more reliable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please test & report. The single module will be hard to test, as the bug isn't reproducable easily, but you can still try if wifi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> / modem transitions work well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark, you can check your server logs for history messages with ridiculous time offsets:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [sddexter at ns27 server]$ cat log-20190903 | egrep "rx msg h [0-9]+,-[0-9]{4}" | wc -l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 455283
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bug now severely affects the V2 server performance, as the server is single threaded and doesn't scale very well to this kind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of bulk data bursts, especially when coming from multiple modules in parallel. So we really need to solve this now. Slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactions or connection drops from my server lately have been due to this bug. If this change doesn't solve it, we'll need to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some reboot trigger on "too many server v2 notification retransmissions" -- or maybe a modem power cycle will do, that wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discard the data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 03.09.19 um 07:46 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem. We can hold. I won’t commit anything for the next few days (and agree to hold-off on Markos’s pull). Let me know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you are ready.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Sep 2019, at 1:58 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>> <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark, please wait.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may just have found the cause for issue #241, or at least something I need to investigate before releasing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to dig into my logs first, and try something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.09.19 um 12:23 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing open from my side at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't had the time to look in to Markos pull request, but from a first check also think that's going too deep to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> included in this release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 02.09.19 um 04:15 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is well past time for a 3.2.003 release. Things seems table in edge (although some things only partially implemented).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything people want to include at the last minute, or can we go ahead and build?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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