[Ovmsdev] Kia Soul status.

Mark Webb-Johnson mark at webb-johnson.net
Mon Jan 8 11:29:48 HKT 2018


> I also have a very poor GPS signal even with the expensive passive antenna, the final module really needs to support active ones.

Just to confirm. The release hardware will use active GPS antennas.

I’ve also asked the china manufacturer for modification instructions (needs soldering, but relatively straightforward) and parts kits to we can retro-fit this to developer units.

Regards, Mark.

> On 7 Jan 2018, at 6:02 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
> 
> Geir,
> 
> I also have a very poor GPS signal even with the expensive passive antenna, the final module really needs to support active ones.
> 
> There's also a slight chance your pigtail cable is broken. That has been an issue on some chinese RC transmitters recently, but I don't think that's the issue with your GPS, just a poor antenna.
> 
> The satellite count and GPS / GLONASS lock state are transferred into the vehicle position metrics:
> 
> OVMS > metrics list v.p.
> v.p.altitude                             318.4m
> v.p.direction                            0°
> v.p.gpshdop                              2.2
> v.p.gpslock                              yes
> v.p.gpsmode                              AN
> v.p.gpsspeed                             0Kph
> v.p.latitude                             51.3022
> v.p.longitude                            7.38984
> v.p.odometer                             0Km
> v.p.satcount                             4
> v.p.speed                                0Kph
> v.p.trip                                 0Km
> 
> The "gpsmode" is…
> 
>     //  <Mode>: first char = GPS, second = GLONASS;
>     //    N = No fix
>     //    A = Autonomous mode (non differential)
>     //    D = Differential mode
>     //    E = Estimation mode
> 
> 
> To see your raw NMEA sentences, enable the verbose logging:
> 
> OVMS > level verbose gsm-nmea
> 
> …right after init:
> 
> V (713279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GNGNS,,,,,,NN,,,,,,*53
> V (713279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
> 
> …after receiving a time signal:
> 
> V (770279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GNGNS,214635.9,,,,,NN,,,,,,*43
> V (770279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
> 
> …after getting the first satellites:
> 
> V (796339) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GNGNS,214702.0,5118.133354,N,00723.390298,E,AN,04,2.2,318.4,47.0,,*6D
> V (796339) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GPRMC,214702.0,A,5118.133354,N,00723.390298,E,,,060118,,,A*63
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Michael
> 
> 
> Am 06.01.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
>> I’ve tried the tiny passive antenna I ordered, but I just can’t get any GPS signal. I’ve tried with GSM-antenna too, but got nothing :-(
>> 
>> How do you see how many satellites you get?
>> 
>> Geir
>> 
>> 
>>> 15. des. 2017 kl. 20:11 skrev Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <geir at validalo.net <mailto:geir at validalo.net>>:
>>> 
>>> €30!?! That’s insanely expensive, especially if it’s no good!
>>>  
>>> I’ve just ordered one of these just to test it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-Ceramic-GPS-Built-in-Antenna-Passive-Antenna-PAD-Cell-Phone-Watch-Antenna/132408954278?hash=item1ed4304da6:g:PO0AAOSw~uhUoQT- <https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-Ceramic-GPS-Built-in-Antenna-Passive-Antenna-PAD-Cell-Phone-Watch-Antenna/132408954278?hash=item1ed4304da6:g:PO0AAOSw%7EuhUoQT->
>>> It is small and will be hidden under the seat in the end, so it might not be a good solution, but it’ll be interesting to test.
>>> 
>>> The GSM-anteanna I use with the V2 is very nice as it tucks really nice between the window and the dashboard. If it works well, I might go for a second GSM-antenna 🙂
>>> 
>>> Geir
>>> 
>>>> 15. des. 2017 kl. 20:05 skrev Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de <mailto:dexter at expeedo.de>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Geir,
>>>> 
>>>> that sounds great :)
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding the passive GPS antenna, I've got mine now, it's this one:
>>>> 
>>>> http://shop.aixtema.de/lancom/passive-antenne-gps-5m-sma-plug.html?___store=en&___from_store=default <http://shop.aixtema.de/lancom/passive-antenne-gps-5m-sma-plug.html?___store=en&___from_store=default>
>>>> 
>>>> …and it's a bit disappointing. I don't get any better results than with the simple GSM antenna. It's more the opposite, I had 10 satellites with the GSM antenna
>>>> in about a minute, this GPS antenna needs around 10 minutes to get there and then doesn't get better.
>>>> 
>>>> So maybe you could first try a second GSM antenna instead. Or maybe the LANCOM antenna is garbage, it's one of the cheapest passive antennas available.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.12.2017 um 19:44 schrieb Geir Øyvind Vælidalo:
>>>>> Just a small status update on the Kia Soul porting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My OVMS V3 is now connecting to the V2 server via my WiFi-network at home. I’ve got the first data from the new hardware through to the OVMS app on my iPhone.
>>>>> Fantastic job guys!
>>>>> As soon as my health is ok again, I can start testing the hardware in my car and verify the data and fix the bugs. The Kia Soul should be almost on par with
>>>>> the V2, with a few things added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just wish I had a case...  And I need to get a twin sim-card (I got free SMS and lots of data included 🙂 ) so it can be online away from home. Oh, and a
>>>>> passive GPS-antenna.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is looking good!  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Geir
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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