<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">I also have a very poor GPS signal even with the expensive passive antenna, the final module really needs to support active ones.</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Just to confirm. The release hardware will use active GPS antennas.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve also asked the china manufacturer for modification instructions (needs soldering, but relatively straightforward) and parts kits to we can retro-fit this to developer units.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Jan 2018, at 6:02 AM, Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    Geir,<br class="">
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    I also have a very poor GPS signal even with the expensive passive
    antenna, the final module really needs to support active ones.<br class="">
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    There's also a slight chance your pigtail cable is broken. That has
    been an issue on some chinese RC transmitters recently, but I don't
    think that's the issue with your GPS, just a poor antenna.<br class="">
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    The satellite count and GPS / GLONASS lock state are transferred
    into the vehicle position metrics:<br class="">
    <br class="">
    <tt class="">OVMS > metrics list v.p.</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.altitude                             318.4m</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.direction                            0°</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.gpshdop                              2.2</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.gpslock                              yes</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><b class=""><tt class="">v.p.gpsmode                              AN</tt></b><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.gpsspeed                             0Kph</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.latitude                             51.3022</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.longitude                            7.38984</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.odometer                             0Km</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><b class=""><tt class="">v.p.satcount                             4</tt></b><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.speed                                0Kph</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">v.p.trip                                 0Km</tt><br class="">
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    The "gpsmode" is…<br class="">
    <br class="">
    <tt class="">    //  <Mode>: first char = GPS, second = GLONASS;</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">    //    N = No fix</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">    //    A = Autonomous mode (non differential)</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">    //    D = Differential mode</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">    //    E = Estimation mode</tt><br class="">
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    To see your raw NMEA sentences, enable the verbose logging:<br class="">
    <br class="">
    <tt class="">OVMS > level verbose gsm-nmea</tt><br class="">
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    …right after init:<br class="">
    <br class="">
    <tt class="">V (713279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GNGNS,,,,,,NN,,,,,,*53</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">V (713279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53</tt><br class="">
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    …after receiving a time signal:<br class="">
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    <tt class="">V (770279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine:
      $GNGNS,214635.9,,,,,NN,,,,,,*43</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">V (770279) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine: $GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53</tt><br class="">
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    …after getting the first satellites:<br class="">
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    <tt class="">V (796339) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine:
      $GNGNS,214702.0,5118.133354,N,00723.390298,E,</tt><tt class=""><b class="">AN</b></tt><tt class="">,</tt><tt class=""><b class="">04</b></tt><tt class="">,2.2,318.4,47.0,,*6D</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
    </tt><tt class="">V (796339) gsm-nmea: IncomingLine:
      $GPRMC,214702.0,A,5118.133354,N,00723.390298,E,,,060118,,,A*63</tt><br class="">
    <br class="">
    <br class="">
    Regards,<br class="">
    Michael<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.01.2018 um 20:13 schrieb Geir
      Øyvind Vælidalo:<br class="">
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      I’ve tried the tiny passive antenna I ordered, but I just can’t
      get any GPS signal. I’ve tried with GSM-antenna too, but got
      nothing :-(
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      <div class="">How do you see how many satellites you get?</div>
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      <div class="">Geir</div>
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            <div class="">15. des. 2017 kl. 20:11 skrev Geir Øyvind
              Vælidalo <<a href="mailto:geir@validalo.net" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">geir@validalo.net</a>>:</div>
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                That’s insanely expensive, especially if it’s no good!
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                  <div class="">I’ve just ordered one of these just to
                    test it: <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-Ceramic-GPS-Built-in-Antenna-Passive-Antenna-PAD-Cell-Phone-Watch-Antenna/132408954278?hash=item1ed4304da6:g:PO0AAOSw%7EuhUoQT-" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-Ceramic-GPS-Built-in-Antenna-Passive-Antenna-PAD-Cell-Phone-Watch-Antenna/132408954278?hash=item1ed4304da6:g:PO0AAOSw~uhUoQT-</a></div>
                  <div class="">It is small and will be hidden under the
                    seat in the end, so it might not be a good solution,
                    but it’ll be interesting to test.</div>
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                  <div class="">The GSM-anteanna I use with the V2 is
                    very nice as it tucks really nice between the window
                    and the dashboard. If it works well, I might go for
                    a second GSM-antenna 🙂</div>
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                  <div class="">Geir<br class="">
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                        <div class="">15. des. 2017 kl. 20:05 skrev
                          Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>:</div>
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                          <div class="">Geir,<br class="">
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                            that sounds great :)<br class="">
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                            Regarding the passive GPS antenna, I've got
                            mine now, it's this one:<br class="">
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                            <a href="http://shop.aixtema.de/lancom/passive-antenne-gps-5m-sma-plug.html?___store=en&___from_store=default" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://shop.aixtema.de/lancom/passive-antenne-gps-5m-sma-plug.html?___store=en&___from_store=default</a><br class="">
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                            …and it's a bit disappointing. I don't get
                            any better results than with the simple GSM
                            antenna. It's more the opposite, I had 10
                            satellites with the GSM antenna<br class="">
                            in about a minute, this GPS antenna needs
                            around 10 minutes to get there and then
                            doesn't get better.<br class="">
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                            So maybe you could first try a second GSM
                            antenna instead. Or maybe the LANCOM antenna
                            is garbage, it's one of the cheapest passive
                            antennas available.<br class="">
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                            Regards,<br class="">
                            Michael<br class="">
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                            Am 15.12.2017 um 19:44 schrieb Geir Øyvind
                            Vælidalo:<br class="">
                            <blockquote type="cite" class="">Just a
                              small status update on the Kia Soul
                              porting.<br class="">
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                              My OVMS V3 is now connecting to the V2
                              server via my WiFi-network at home. I’ve
                              got the first data from the new hardware
                              through to the OVMS app on my iPhone.<br class="">
                              Fantastic job guys!<br class="">
                              As soon as my health is ok again, I can
                              start testing the hardware in my car and
                              verify the data and fix the bugs. The Kia
                              Soul should be almost on par with<br class="">
                              the V2, with a few things added.<br class="">
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                              Just wish I had a case...  And I need to
                              get a twin sim-card (I got free SMS and
                              lots of data included 🙂 ) so it can be
                              online away from home. Oh, and a<br class="">
                              passive GPS-antenna.<br class="">
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                              This is looking good!  <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Geir<br class="">
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