[Ovmsdev] OVMS v3 - Microcontroller

Tue Feb 2 12:17:03 HKT 2016

Just a note that ATT is shutting down its 2G network, leaving only 3G and
LTE: http://www.sine-wave.com/blog/2g-sunset-retiring-0

- Bennett

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, <ovmsdev-request at lists.teslaclub.hk> wrote:

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> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:07:47 +0800
> From: Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] OVMS v3 - Microcontroller
> To: OVMS Developers <ovmsdev at lists.teslaclub.hk>
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> Dominik,
>
> The idea is to make the cellular modem an (optional) plug-in board. This
> is necessary for two reasons:
>
> a) Technology changes (2G->3G->4G).
> b) Universal modems (such as quad band 2G that work everywhere in the
> world) aren?t really possible in the 3G/4G space, so we need different
> modems for different parts of the world.
>
> Happy to look at both 3G and 4G options as the time draws near. Quite
> frankly, there are a huge number of options out there for this. I consider
> this one of the easiest parts of the project.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> > On 2 Feb 2016, at 1:51 AM, Dominik Westner <ovms at nikwest.de> wrote:
> >
> > Generally I think 3G doesn?t make a lot of sense. A new platform should
> be 4G capable. As far as I know 2G is more likely to stay longer than 3G.
> > I know already some areas in Germany and Austria where you can find 4G
> and maybe 2G, but no 3G.
> >
> > For example seeedstudio retargeted their Rephone 3G module to 4G after
> some investigations about the future of 3G.
> > (
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seeed/rephone-kit-worlds-first-open-source-and-modular-p/posts/1468366
> <
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seeed/rephone-kit-worlds-first-open-source-and-modular-p/posts/1468366
> >)
> >
> > Just my 2 cents
> >
> > Dominik
> >
> >> On 01 Feb 2016, at 18:30, Arthur Hebert <ahebert at gmail.com <mailto:
> ahebert at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Particle Electron has recently caught my attention:
> https://www.particle.io/cellular <https://www.particle.io/cellular>.
> Actual performance and usability are unknown, since the first units don't
> ship until later this month, but it has some attractive features:
> >> low-cost M2M-oriented international SMS/data plans ($3/mo. for 20k
> messages)
> >> STM32F205 MCU with 1MB flash, 128k RAM and 2 CAN buses
> >> free development IDE: https://www.particle.io/dev <
> https://www.particle.io/dev>
> >> also a free web-based dev environment at https://build.particle.io <
> https://build.particle.io/> (I assume/hope this will support the Electron
> cellular board when it comes out)
> >> I know it doesn't come close to meeting the RAM requirements, but the
> cellular plan is a pretty big draw IMO. Perhaps worth using this module in
> conjunction with another board with a better MCU?
> >>
> >> -Arthur
> >>
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> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:13:30 +0800
> From: Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ovmsdev] OVMS v3 - Microcontroller
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> Michael,
>
> That is the general idea. Provide a base platform that people could use
> for all sorts of things.
>
> But, the choice of operating system and platform type has a big bearing on
> this. If we want to do things like instrument clusters, infotainment, car
> PCs, etc, then the platform is very different than one intended as an
> embedded CAN gateway. The processor power requirement to take 4 video
> streams and real-time stitch them into a single overhead camera view, is
> non trivial. There is a conflict there for the low power requirement.
>
> Regards, Mark.
>
> > On 2 Feb 2016, at 3:30 AM, Michael Eymann <Michael.Eymann at networkz.de>
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > what about opening our garden, providing a public park which could be
> used for several features beside the scope of this group?
> >
> > 3G/4G Wlan Bluetooth GPS whatever could be added / replaced easily?.
> >
> > what i mean is vocabulary like:
> > - raspberry pi
> > - CarPI (CarPC)
> > - OBD - smartphone speedometer gadgets (sure really useless - but the
> mainstream love it)
> > - Harry?s laptimer support (http://www.gps-laptimer.de <
> http://www.gps-laptimer.de/>) // video: Harry's LapTimer GPS/OBD II Video
> Overlay - Nordschleife with 911 GTS <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCNhmsFZBE>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCNhmsFZBE <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTCNhmsFZBE>
> > - Wlan.. repeater - hotspot? (my favorit)
> >
> > this could also enable add on development?.
> > - spotify
> > - surround view parking (raspian & openCV?) // AVM: AVM (Around View
> Monitoring /monitor ) 4CH camera become 360 degree Parking Guidance System <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9iVoSvjGk>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9iVoSvjGk <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9iVoSvjGk>
> > - KITT Watch - car call?
> > - replace Infotainment systems
> > - SmartAutomation like OpenHab integration (They call it ?Binding? -
> Tesla Model S Binding is already integrated - did they overtake us? ;-)
> http://www.openhab.org <http://www.openhab.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > views?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Am 01.02.2016 um 18:51 schrieb Dominik Westner <ovms at nikwest.de <mailto:
> ovms at nikwest.de>>:
> >
> > Generally I think 3G doesn?t make a lot of sense. A new platform should
> be 4G capable. As far as I know 2G is more likely to stay longer than 3G.
> > I know already some areas in Germany and Austria where you can find 4G
> and maybe 2G, but no 3G.
> >
> > For example seeedstudio retargeted their Rephone 3G module to 4G after
> some investigations about the future of 3G.
> > (
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seeed/rephone-kit-worlds-first-open-source-and-modular-p/posts/1468366
> <
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/seeed/rephone-kit-worlds-first-open-source-and-modular-p/posts/1468366
> >)
> >
> > Just my 2 cents
> >
> > Dominik
> >
> >> On 01 Feb 2016, at 18:30, Arthur Hebert <ahebert at gmail.com <mailto:
> ahebert at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Particle Electron has recently caught my attention:
> https://www.particle.io/cellular <https://www.particle.io/cellular>.
> Actual performance and usability are unknown, since the first units don't
> ship until later this month, but it has some attractive features:
> >> low-cost M2M-oriented international SMS/data plans ($3/mo. for 20k
> messages)
> >> STM32F205 MCU with 1MB flash, 128k RAM and 2 CAN buses
> >> free development IDE: https://www.particle.io/dev <
> https://www.particle.io/dev>
> >> also a free web-based dev environment at https://build.particle.io <
> https://build.particle.io/> (I assume/hope this will support the Electron
> cellular board when it comes out)
> >> I know it doesn't come close to meeting the RAM requirements, but the
> cellular plan is a pretty big draw IMO. Perhaps worth using this module in
> conjunction with another board with a better MCU?
> >>
> >> -Arthur
> >>
> >
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