[Ovmsdev] Twizy release 3.5.0

Tue Sep 30 15:31:06 HKT 2014

Hi Michael,
It's not a technical problem to pull data (and push updates) to these 
directories, they just don't want to do it or cannot re-license the 
data. There will always be people who prefer other sites/apps and there 
will also always be new ones hoping to become the next big thing in EV 
charging. The difference with OCM is that user contributed data is Open 
licensed for wider distribution, whereas most other sites/apps are not, 
instead they tend to keep the data for themselves in an attempt to build 
their own brand and perhaps even make a profit.

Open Charge Map will not be holding data on Private (residential/home) 
charging because our data is widely shared/distributed and we cannot 
then comply with the various data protection laws in place globally 
which are designed to protect consumers. The most obvious problems are 
when you move house and don't update your listing (or can't update it), 
then the new owner gets people turning up for a charge. OCM will instead 
be implement Charging Requests whereby people can request a charge in a 
specific area and other users can get in touch with them to arrange, 
that way their private information doesn't need to be broadly published.

Christopher Cook
Open Charge Map

On 30/09/2014 01:45, Michael Balzer wrote:
> Hi Jean-Christophe,
>
> having users enter data in multiple charge point databases will not 
> work, users tend to stick to their preferred directory.
>
> Charge point directories should interface with each other to exchange 
> and enrich charge point information.
>
> There are two major public charge point directories for Germany and 
> Europe:
>
> http://www.lemnet.org/de/
>
> http://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/
>
> LEMnet exists since 1997 and has the most charge points but is a bit 
> "old school". GoingElectric is brand new, integrates a very good trip 
> planning tool and has a very active community, nearly catched up with 
> LEMnet on data. LEMnet still contains more private charge points (like 
> mine) meant for light electric vehicles or bikes, while GE is more 
> directed towards charging networks and high power stations.
>
> Data quality is excellent on both directories.
>
> If you establish interfaces or data synchronisation with these two, 
> the OCM will cover 99.9% of all charge points available in Europe.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
>
> Am 29.09.2014 um 09:25 schrieb J-C Saint-Pô:
>> Hy Michael,
>> With all this beautiful work you do, I would just buy a Twizy to be 
>> able to try it all out! :-))))
>>
>> On an other note,
>> If your German or other counterparts would like to have more 
>> chargepoints visible in the ovms app, , They can do this by adding 
>> them on the openchargemap.org <http://openchargemap.org> site
>> They do not need to have a OCM login to be able to do so
>> The handy thing about loging in into ocm, is that after a moderator 
>> checked your submissions where donne correctly we can give editing 
>> permissions to that person. This way it's submissions will 
>> immediatelly published without having to be moderated
>> When you are loged into ocm, the comments you gave can be deleted by 
>> yourself in your ocm profile on the ocm website
>> but giving a comment can also be donne anonumously, but then the 
>> comment can only be deleted by a moderator
>>
>> for people worried about remembering a new pasword for ocm and privacy
>> OCM does not store passwords or personnel data
>> You login with your twitter, google+ or facebook account
>> The only account data ocm stores is
>> twitter = twitteraccount and twitterusername
>> google+ = google+accountname and google+ e-mail
>> facebook = facebookaccount link & accountname
>> on these ocmaccounts data, ocm can then add for which country you 
>> have editing permission,
>>
>> If people know how to bulk import chargepoints from certain 
>> providers, please contact christopher.cook at openchargemap.net 
>> <mailto:christopher.cook at openchargemap.net> or 
>> christopher.cook at webprofusion.com 
>> <mailto:christopher.cook at webprofusion.com> , he is the brains behind 
>> the ocm project!
>>
>> For simple things like adding a provider to the existing list, you 
>> can mail me, jcsaintpo at gmail.com <mailto:jcsaintpo at gmail.com>
>> I have already reached out o many providers to ask them for the 
>> ability to bulk import, but unfortunately I succeed only very rarely!
>> So if you can help ocm, please do so!
>> Ocm is not a commercial endeavour, due to which we do not have the 
>> manpower to find and contact all providors
>> Just as Openvehicles OCM depends on a few enthusiastic people
>> and with few, I really mean 2-3 people doing it in their spare time 
>> and more and more active users
>>
>> If people using openvehicles that can not programme could add 1 
>> chargingstation located in their neighbourhood every day, or week, I 
>> think this would greatly help ocm, but the openvehiclesapp too I think
>>
>> Sorry for all my rambling!
>>
>> Anyhow, I admire all the gorgeous work you people do with openvehicles
>>
>> Jean-Christophe
>> Moderator/administrator for Openchargemap in my spare time ;-)
>>
>
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