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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Michael,<br>
It's not a technical problem to pull data (and push updates) to
these directories, they just don't want to do it or cannot
re-license the data. There will always be people who prefer other
sites/apps and there will also always be new ones hoping to become
the next big thing in EV charging. The difference with OCM is that
user contributed data is Open licensed for wider distribution,
whereas most other sites/apps are not, instead they tend to keep
the data for themselves in an attempt to build their own brand and
perhaps even make a profit.<br>
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Open Charge Map will not be holding data on Private
(residential/home) charging because our data is widely
shared/distributed and we cannot then comply with the various data
protection laws in place globally which are designed to protect
consumers. The most obvious problems are when you move house and
don't update your listing (or can't update it), then the new owner
gets people turning up for a charge. OCM will instead be implement
Charging Requests whereby people can request a charge in a
specific area and other users can get in touch with them to
arrange, that way their private information doesn't need to be
broadly published.<br>
<br>
Christopher Cook<br>
Open Charge Map<br>
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On 30/09/2014 01:45, Michael Balzer wrote:<br>
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Hi Jean-Christophe,<br>
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having users enter data in multiple charge point databases will
not work, users tend to stick to their preferred directory.<br>
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Charge point directories should interface with each other to
exchange and enrich charge point information.<br>
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There are two major public charge point directories for Germany
and Europe:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lemnet.org/de/">http://www.lemnet.org/de/</a><br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/">http://www.goingelectric.de/stromtankstellen/</a><br>
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LEMnet exists since 1997 and has the most charge points but is a
bit "old school". GoingElectric is brand new, integrates a very
good trip planning tool and has a very active community, nearly
catched up with LEMnet on data. LEMnet still contains more private
charge points (like mine) meant for light electric vehicles or
bikes, while GE is more directed towards charging networks and
high power stations.<br>
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Data quality is excellent on both directories.<br>
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If you establish interfaces or data synchronisation with these
two, the OCM will cover 99.9% of all charge points available in
Europe.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 29.09.2014 um 09:25 schrieb J-C
Saint-Pô:<br>
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<div>Hy
Michael,<br>
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With all this
beautiful work
you do, I
would just buy
a Twizy to be
able to try it
all out!
:-))))<br>
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note,<br>
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If your German
or other
counterparts
would like to
have more
chargepoints
visible in the
ovms app, ,
They can do
this by adding
them on the <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://openchargemap.org" target="_blank">openchargemap.org</a>
site<br>
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They do not
need to have a
OCM login to
be able to do
so<br>
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The handy thing
about loging in
into ocm, is
that after a
moderator
checked your
submissions
where donne
correctly we can
give editing
permissions to
that person.
This way it's
submissions will
immediatelly
published
without having
to be moderated<br>
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When you are loged
into ocm, the
comments you gave
can be deleted by
yourself in your
ocm profile on the
ocm website<br>
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but giving a comment
can also be donne
anonumously, but
then the comment can
only be deleted by a
moderator<br>
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for people worried
about remembering a
new pasword for ocm
and privacy<br>
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OCM does not store
passwords or personnel
data<br>
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You login with your
twitter, google+ or
facebook account<br>
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The only account data ocm
stores is <br>
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twitter = twitteraccount and
twitterusername<br>
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google+ = google+accountname and
google+ e-mail<br>
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facebook = facebookaccount link
& accountname<br>
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on these ocmaccounts data, ocm can
then add for which country you have
editing permission, <br>
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If people know how to bulk import
chargepoints from certain providers,
please contact <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:christopher.cook@openchargemap.net"
target="_blank">christopher.cook@openchargemap.net</a>
or <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:christopher.cook@webprofusion.com"
target="_blank">christopher.cook@webprofusion.com</a>
, he is the brains behind the ocm
project!<br>
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For simple things like adding a provider
to the existing list, you can mail me, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jcsaintpo@gmail.com"
target="_blank">jcsaintpo@gmail.com</a><br>
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I have already reached out o many
providers to ask them for the ability to
bulk import, but unfortunately I succeed
only very rarely!<br>
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So if you can help ocm, please do so!<br>
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Ocm is not a commercial endeavour, due to
which we do not have the manpower to find and
contact all providors<br>
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Just as Openvehicles OCM depends on a few
enthusiastic people <br>
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and with few, I really mean 2-3 people doing it in
their spare time and more and more active users<br>
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If people using openvehicles that can not programme
could add 1 chargingstation located in their
neighbourhood every day, or week, I think this would
greatly help ocm, but the openvehiclesapp too I
think<br>
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Sorry for all my rambling!<br>
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Anyhow, I admire all the gorgeous work you people do
with openvehicles<br>
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Jean-Christophe<br>
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Moderator/administrator for Openchargemap in my spare time ;-)<br>
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