[Ovmsdev] EMC / CE certificate + Fasttech SimpleConsole?

Tue Feb 18 17:04:17 HKT 2014

Kick starter or indiegogo can be nice option

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:19 PM, J-C Saint-Pô <jcsaintpo at gmail.com> wrote:

> an indiegogo, or kickstarter-project?
>
>
> 2014-02-18 9:43 GMT+01:00 Avesh Chauhan <aveshcool at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi All,
>>
>> I think this initiative need to get commercial. Getting CE / FCC approved
>> is one part which can be handled basis on order but getting bulk orders for
>> such project is imp. So far as i have been reading the device has been
>> tested in few electric cars. I think we need to take it to next stage of
>> marketing wherein idea and solution is shown on social platform to capture
>> more attention. This can help this project getting funding or even bulk
>> order.
>>
>> I personally have experience of product marketing and development  and
>> has been very keenly following the progress. My suggestion to Mark and
>> others is move one step ahead to take this project globally from hobbyist
>> project to proper commercial.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Avesh
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think price will depend largely on quantity. The PCB and components
>>> should be very cheap and easy. Main issue will be finding a case and
>>> getting it customised for our needs - does it need to be waterproof? Also,
>>> the expansion connector on the motherboard and cable arrangements are
>>> tricky.
>>>
>>> Regards, Mark.
>>>
>>> On 17 Feb, 2014, at 9:01 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Mark,
>>> >
>>> > thanks for the info.
>>> >
>>> > Regarding the SimpleConsole: I'll ask for preorders in the german
>>> forum. Maybe someone could collect preorders for France (Julien?) and UK
>>> (Nikki?)?
>>> >
>>> > I spent about 15-20 Euro (20-25 US$) for the single parts, can we
>>> assume the Fasttech pricing will not exceed this?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Michael
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Am 17.02.2014 13:19, schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>>> >> Regarding EMC CE: We've spent a lot of time ensuring we follow the
>>> standards as close as possible, and use individual certified modules, but
>>> bottom line is that currently the unit is a hobbyist kit and doesn't have
>>> CE certificate. For individual hobbyist use that is fine, but it does mean
>>> it can't be re-sold as a complete end-user unit within the EU. Because of
>>> the active transmitter module (GMS modem) in the unit, getting formal CE
>>> certificate would be extremely expensive and just not possible at the
>>> quantities we are currently talking about. We have been working with the
>>> China guys to see if there is a way around this, and there might be one way
>>> which is to use plug-in modules for the active units. Those modules are
>>> already CE certified, so then we would only need to certify the
>>> non-transmitting base module. As an aside, we are most likely going to have
>>> to go down that path anyway, as 2G is getting old and the 3G standards mean
>>> we are going to have to use different modules for different countries. At
>>> least that is how it has been explained to me.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regarding the SimpleConsole, I think it really comes down to
>>> quantity. It is very easy to make, but we would need to commit to at least
>>> 100 units for a production run.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards, Mark.
>>> >>  On 17 Feb, 2014, at 7:56 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> the SimpleConsole stirrs up a lot of new requests and interest over
>>> here.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Most german users though would like to buy a pre-configured
>>> ready-to-use OVMS package for the Twizy (I suppose it's similar for other
>>> vehicles and countries).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Unfortunately reselling the OVMS is not legal in the EU, because the
>>> hardware lacks the CE / EMC (electromagnetic conformity) certificate.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am happy with the OVMS staying an explicit hobbyist project, but a
>>> CE / EMC certificate would at least make it possible to sell an OVMS
>>> package if the user explicitly accepts that there are no warranties.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is there any chance this could happen? A german hardware developer
>>> took the OVMS (V2) to his EMC laboratory, with (his words) disastreous
>>> results -- he literally blasted the PIC with some required EM pulse test...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, a professional SimpleConsole build from Fasttech would be
>>> really cool and helpful. What is required for this?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>> Michael
>>> >>>
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