[Ovmsdev] EMC / CE certificate + Fasttech SimpleConsole?

[J-C Saint-Pô]

an indiegogo, or kickstarter-project?


2014-02-18 9:43 GMT+01:00 Avesh Chauhan <aveshcool at gmail.com>:

> Hi All,
>
> I think this initiative need to get commercial. Getting CE / FCC approved
> is one part which can be handled basis on order but getting bulk orders for
> such project is imp. So far as i have been reading the device has been
> tested in few electric cars. I think we need to take it to next stage of
> marketing wherein idea and solution is shown on social platform to capture
> more attention. This can help this project getting funding or even bulk
> order.
>
> I personally have experience of product marketing and development  and has
> been very keenly following the progress. My suggestion to Mark and others
> is move one step ahead to take this project globally from hobbyist project
> to proper commercial.
>
> Regards,
> Avesh
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark at webb-johnson.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> I think price will depend largely on quantity. The PCB and components
>> should be very cheap and easy. Main issue will be finding a case and
>> getting it customised for our needs - does it need to be waterproof? Also,
>> the expansion connector on the motherboard and cable arrangements are
>> tricky.
>>
>> Regards, Mark.
>>
>> On 17 Feb, 2014, at 9:01 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > thanks for the info.
>> >
>> > Regarding the SimpleConsole: I'll ask for preorders in the german
>> forum. Maybe someone could collect preorders for France (Julien?) and UK
>> (Nikki?)?
>> >
>> > I spent about 15-20 Euro (20-25 US$) for the single parts, can we
>> assume the Fasttech pricing will not exceed this?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 17.02.2014 13:19, schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>> >> Regarding EMC CE: We've spent a lot of time ensuring we follow the
>> standards as close as possible, and use individual certified modules, but
>> bottom line is that currently the unit is a hobbyist kit and doesn't have
>> CE certificate. For individual hobbyist use that is fine, but it does mean
>> it can't be re-sold as a complete end-user unit within the EU. Because of
>> the active transmitter module (GMS modem) in the unit, getting formal CE
>> certificate would be extremely expensive and just not possible at the
>> quantities we are currently talking about. We have been working with the
>> China guys to see if there is a way around this, and there might be one way
>> which is to use plug-in modules for the active units. Those modules are
>> already CE certified, so then we would only need to certify the
>> non-transmitting base module. As an aside, we are most likely going to have
>> to go down that path anyway, as 2G is getting old and the 3G standards mean
>> we are going to have to use different modules for different countries. At
>> least that is how it has been explained to me.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding the SimpleConsole, I think it really comes down to quantity.
>> It is very easy to make, but we would need to commit to at least 100 units
>> for a production run.
>> >>
>> >> Regards, Mark.
>> >>  On 17 Feb, 2014, at 7:56 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> the SimpleConsole stirrs up a lot of new requests and interest over
>> here.
>> >>>
>> >>> Most german users though would like to buy a pre-configured
>> ready-to-use OVMS package for the Twizy (I suppose it's similar for other
>> vehicles and countries).
>> >>>
>> >>> Unfortunately reselling the OVMS is not legal in the EU, because the
>> hardware lacks the CE / EMC (electromagnetic conformity) certificate.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am happy with the OVMS staying an explicit hobbyist project, but a
>> CE / EMC certificate would at least make it possible to sell an OVMS
>> package if the user explicitly accepts that there are no warranties.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there any chance this could happen? A german hardware developer
>> took the OVMS (V2) to his EMC laboratory, with (his words) disastreous
>> results -- he literally blasted the PIC with some required EM pulse test...
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, a professional SimpleConsole build from Fasttech would be
>> really cool and helpful. What is required for this?
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Michael
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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