[Ovmsdev] EMC / CE certificate + Fasttech SimpleConsole?

[Mark Webb-Johnson]

I think price will depend largely on quantity. The PCB and components should be very cheap and easy. Main issue will be finding a case and getting it customised for our needs - does it need to be waterproof? Also, the expansion connector on the motherboard and cable arrangements are tricky.

Regards, Mark.

On 17 Feb, 2014, at 9:01 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> thanks for the info.
> 
> Regarding the SimpleConsole: I'll ask for preorders in the german forum. Maybe someone could collect preorders for France (Julien?) and UK (Nikki?)?
> 
> I spent about 15-20 Euro (20-25 US$) for the single parts, can we assume the Fasttech pricing will not exceed this?
> 
> Regards,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> Am 17.02.2014 13:19, schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
>> Regarding EMC CE: We’ve spent a lot of time ensuring we follow the standards as close as possible, and use individual certified modules, but bottom line is that currently the unit is a hobbyist kit and doesn’t have CE certificate. For individual hobbyist use that is fine, but it does mean it can’t be re-sold as a complete end-user unit within the EU. Because of the active transmitter module (GMS modem) in the unit, getting formal CE certificate would be extremely expensive and just not possible at the quantities we are currently talking about. We have been working with the China guys to see if there is a way around this, and there might be one way which is to use plug-in modules for the active units. Those modules are already CE certified, so then we would only need to certify the non-transmitting base module. As an aside, we are most likely going to have to go down that path anyway, as 2G is getting old and the 3G standards mean we are going to have to use different modules for different countries. At least that is how it has been explained to me.
>> 
>> Regarding the SimpleConsole, I think it really comes down to quantity. It is very easy to make, but we would need to commit to at least 100 units for a production run.
>> 
>> Regards, Mark.
>>  On 17 Feb, 2014, at 7:56 pm, Michael Balzer <dexter at expeedo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> the SimpleConsole stirrs up a lot of new requests and interest over here.
>>> 
>>> Most german users though would like to buy a pre-configured ready-to-use OVMS package for the Twizy (I suppose it's similar for other vehicles and countries).
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately reselling the OVMS is not legal in the EU, because the hardware lacks the CE / EMC (electromagnetic conformity) certificate.
>>> 
>>> I am happy with the OVMS staying an explicit hobbyist project, but a CE / EMC certificate would at least make it possible to sell an OVMS package if the user explicitly accepts that there are no warranties.
>>> 
>>> Is there any chance this could happen? A german hardware developer took the OVMS (V2) to his EMC laboratory, with (his words) disastreous results -- he literally blasted the PIC with some required EM pulse test...
>>> 
>>> Also, a professional SimpleConsole build from Fasttech would be really cool and helpful. What is required for this?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
>>> 
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