On 11 Nov, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <mark@webb-johnson.net> wrote:
OK, so I think the pinouts we require are as per Michael B's diagram:
_______________________________________________J1962-M DB9-F Signal4 3 Chassis/Power GND6 7 CAN-H14 2 CAN-L16 9 +12V Vehicle PowerA right angle J1962-M plug and about 1metre cable should be ok.This one cable should support both Twizy and Volt/Ampera, and also any ODBII car with an ODBII compliant CAN bus.Does that sound ok?I'll ask around in China to see if I can find someone to make these up cheaply, and get them on Fasttech.Regards, Mark.On 11 Nov, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de> wrote:For the record: I now have connected GND to both 4+5 on the OBD2 plug, works as well.<dexter.vcf>_______________________________________________
Regards,
Michael
Am 10.11.2012 19:57, schrieb mikeljo@me.com:
Hi,
i use this pinout:Primary Data Link Connector- (DLC) X84 *Under drivers side of IP
Pin 1 is Low Speed GMLAN (SWCAN ~33.3kbps) - Body Electrical Services Only Pin 2-3 Unused
Pin 4 chassis ground (for scan tool)
Pin 5 data reference groundPins 6(+) & 14 (-) High Speed GMLAN- Primary Powertrain Bus (DWCAN ~500 kbps) Pins 7-11 Unused
Pins 12(+) & 13(-) High Speed GMLAN- Chassis Expansion Bus (DWCAN ~500 kbps) Pin 15 UnusedPin 16 B+ (for scan tool power)
OBDII Sub-D Signal16 9 +12V4 6+3 GND-Chassis6 7 CAN_H14 2 CAN_L
I connect 6 and 3 at the Sub-D side together.So it looks like we can use the same Cable (for the Primary Can Bus in the Volt). >> Fasttech?
ByeMichael
Am 10.11.2012 um 06:47 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson <mark@webb-johnson.net>:
_______________________________________________Yes, chassis GND vs signal GND, but can is differential, so no GND needed for the signal. We only need GND for 12V power. For vehicles, I think chassis GND is ok.
I think Volt bus we are using is on the same pins:
Maybe 1 cable can do both?
Regards, Mark
On 10 Nov, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Michael Balzer <dexter@expeedo.de> wrote:
Mark,
yes, that's chassis ground -- shouldn't it be? I interpreted the OVMS GND as the ground for the supply voltage (12V), as the CAN bus has its dedicated "low" line.
I just looked up some OBD2 sites: 4+5 normally are the same. One page says an OBD2 cable should have identical potential on 4 and 5 to ensure proper function. Another OBD2 cable I bought connects them, so maybe for a general product GND should connect both, but I don't think there's a difference on the car side... normally.
But I've also seen some info on non standard OBD2 plugs, also for some GM and Opel cars, having other signals where the CAN bus should be, so I'm also interested in your pinout, Michael J.
Regards,
Michael
Am 10.11.2012 04:23, schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
Michael,
One question: you have GND on pin #4 (odb). I have that shown as chassis ground, not signal ground. Is that correct?
Michael J: is that the same connector and pins as you are using for the Volt?
Mark,
great to hear about user activity :-)
1) I just created an OVMS to OBD2 cable image and checked it in:
https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commit/a7c3a3e8f12d7759b896bb75c8e570ebc10ec11a
As OBD2 is standard incl. CAN pinout, this should be valid for any OBD2 port, so could be added to the FastTech OVMS product line. It's not a standard cable, or at least none I know of.
2) No known way up to now. I also think the Twizy would not respond to the port, as the whole CAN bus is quiet when the car is off and not charging. Plus, because the charger draws some 30-35 W for many hours after charging has completed, many drivers use auto-power-off sockets.
3) I'll forward your specification to the german Twizy forum.
Regards,
Michael
Am 09.11.2012 15:23, schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:
Twizy support seems to be coming along nicely, thanks to the amazing work Michael is doing. Some good functionality there already.
I'm starting to see some Twizy users register on openvehicles.com. Perhaps the word is getting out?
Some questions / requests:
- Michael: Can you let me have the details on the cable pinouts and parts you are using at the moment? Is it a standard cable, or are you having to make something up?
- How is charge control on the Twizy done? Is there any way of stopping or starting (topup) a charge from within the car, or is it just controlled by plugging? Any chance of can bus control of this?
- Can anyone help with the car images for the Twizy? There are lots of nice images available, but they need to be photoshopped to the right dimensions and transparent background png.
Regards, Mark.
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