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    Michael,<br>
    <br>
    first feedback: testing this revealed some strange issues with
    vehicle state changes apparently not being detected or reacted to
    properly.<br>
    <br>
    A quick first check shows you have changed the way, the
    PollerStateTicker() hook works: it's now called independently from /
    as of the component ticker.1 registration sequence after the
    poller's primary send, rather than before.<br>
    <br>
    The callback was explicitly meant to provide a means to change the
    poller state just before the next poll would take place:<br>
    <br>
    <font face="monospace">/**<br>
       * PollerStateTicker: check for state changes (stub, override with
      vehicle implementation)<br>
       *  This is called by VehicleTicker1() just before the next
      PollerSend().<br>
       *  Implement your poller state transition logic in this method,
      so the changes<br>
       *  will get applied immediately.<br>
       */<br>
    </font><br>
    This change is already present in PR #966, so I'll delay merging
    that.<br>
    <br>
    Apart from that, the new poller seems to work normally, i.e. the
    polling scheme works and results are coming in, at least regarding
    ISOTP. I haven't tested VWTP yet.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 26.03.24 um 08:46 schrieb Michael
      Geddes:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAH0p7uLK9ntJkB_Jw3=8OMBFtBsfV+di_JVdhScB3KtaxLt3Jg@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">Yeah wow.  So close and yet so far.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Fix pushed.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>//.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 at 21:58,
          Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div> Michael,<br>
            <br>
            looking forward to test this, but trying to run your branch
            with the VW e-Up leads to an early crash boot loop.<br>
            <br>
            Apparently `OvmsPollers::PollSetPidList()` doesn't check for
            a NULL plist:<br>
            <br>
            <font face="monospace">0x40195b6f is in
              OvmsPollers::PollSetPidList(canbus*,
              OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t const*, OvmsPoller::VehicleSignal*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/poller/src/vehicle_poller.cpp:1201).<br>
              1196      bool hasbus[1+VEHICLE_MAXBUSSES];<br>
              1197      for (int i = 0 ; i <= VEHICLE_MAXBUSSES; ++i)<br>
              1198        hasbus[i] = false;<br>
              1199    <br>
              1200      // Check for an Empty list.<br>
              <font color="#d83a3a"><b>1201      if
                  (plist->txmoduleid == 0)</b></font><br>
              1202        {<br>
              1203        plist = nullptr;<br>
              1204        ESP_LOGD(TAG, "PollSetPidList - Setting Empty
              List");<br>
              1205        }<br>
              0x401a2675 is in OvmsVehicle::PollSetPidList(canbus*,
              OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t const*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle/vehicle.cpp:2278).<br>
              2273      return m_pollsignal;<br>
              2274      }<br>
              2275    void OvmsVehicle::PollSetPidList(canbus* bus,
              const OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t* plist)<br>
              2276      {<br>
              2277      m_poll_bus_default = bus;<br>
              2278      MyPollers.PollSetPidList(bus, plist,
              GetPollerSignal());<br>
              2279      }<br>
              2280    #endif<br>
              2281    <br>
              2282    /**<br>
              0x4023209e is in OvmsVehicleVWeUp::OBDInit()
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/src/vweup_obd.cpp:233).<br>
              228       obd_state_t previous_state = m_obd_state;<br>
              229       m_obd_state = OBDS_Config;<br>
              230     <br>
              231       if (previous_state != OBDS_Pause)<br>
              232       {<br>
              <font color="#d83a3a"><b>233        
                  PollSetPidList(m_can1, NULL);</b></font><br>
              234         PollSetThrottling(0);<br>
              235         PollSetResponseSeparationTime(1);<br>
              236     <br>
              237         if
              (StandardMetrics.ms_v_charge_inprogress->AsBool())</font><br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Regards,<br>
            Michael<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div>Am 21.03.24 um 10:17 schrieb Michael Geddes:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div dir="ltr">I've pushed up my working tree  here:  <a
href="https://github.com/frogonwheels/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/new-poller"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/frogonwheels/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/new-poller</a>
                <div>partly for feedback, and partly because I wanted it
                  backed up!<br>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>This incorporates about 10 pull/requests worth of
                    work which is why I didn't even add it as a draft,
                    so I see this as taking some number of months to
                    push up.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Of interest is really the final
                    components/poller/src/vehicle_poller*  files and how
                    that has all come together..  I've added some
                    preliminary </div>
                  <div>documentation for that  which I'm quite happy to
                    accept any critiques or requests for specific
                    information!</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The Duktape  metrics 'stale, age' methods are
                    probably ready for a p/r as-is.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>//.ichael</div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at
                  16:58, Michael Geddes <<a
                    href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                  <div dir="ltr">Thanks Michael,
                    <div>I'll definitely add the config - pretty much
                      sorted out the singleton (except for the change of
                      directory).  Just wondering if I should rebase
                      this change down earlier or just keep it as the
                      'last change' that is making the final break.  It
                      might be a better transition that way?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Anyway have a look at this little class below;
                      we have a bunch of different implementations for
                      an event register and came up with the
                      OvmsCallBackRegister below.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>In my example the event notification looks like
                      this:<br>
                          void PollRunFinished(canbus *bus)<br>
                            {<br>
                    </div>
                    <div>      m_runfinished_callback.Call(<br>
                              [bus](const std::string &name, const
                      PollCallback &cb)<br>
                                {<br>
                                cb(bus, nullptr);<br>
                                });<br>
                    </div>
                    <div>    }</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I could possibly but it in main/ovms_utils.h 
                      ??  It could also use a std:map to implement it,
                      though I think we save space this way and tbh the
                      use case wouldn't be doing a lot of Register and
                      Unregister which would be the slowest
                      operations...   I've made it not shrink the list
                      size .... but again, not that important in the
                      context.<br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Thoughts?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>//.ichael</div>
                    <div>--------------8<
                      -----------------------------------</div>
                    <div>
                      <div><font face="monospace">/* Call-back register.<br>
                           * The list does not shrink which is fine for
                          this use-case.<br>
                           * Can be made inexpensively
                          threadsafe/re-entrant safe.<br>
                           */<br>
                          template <typename FN><br>
                          class OvmsCallBackRegister<br>
                            {<br>
                            private:<br>
                            class CallbackEntry<br>
                              {<br>
                              public:<br>
                                CallbackEntry(const std::string
                          &caller, FN callback)<br>
                                  {<br>
                                  m_name = caller;<br>
                                  m_callback = callback;<br>
                                  }<br>
                                ~CallbackEntry() {}<br>
                              public:<br>
                                std::string m_name;<br>
                                FN m_callback;<br>
                              };<br>
                              typedef
                          std::forward_list<CallbackEntry>
                          callbacklist_t;<br>
                              callbacklist_t m_list;<br>
                            public:<br>
                              ~OvmsCallBackRegister()<br>
                                {<br>
                                }<br>
                              void Register(const std::string
                          &nametag, FN callback)<br>
                                {<br>
                                // Replace<br>
                                for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                          m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                                  {<br>
                                  if ((*it).m_name == nametag)<br>
                                    {<br>
                                    (*it).m_callback = callback;<br>
                                    return;<br>
                                    }<br>
                                  }<br>
                                if (!callback)<br>
                                  return;<br>
                                for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                          m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                                  {<br>
                                  if (!(*it).m_callback)<br>
                                    {<br>
                                    CallbackEntry &entry = *it;<br>
                                    entry.m_name = nametag;<br>
                                    entry.m_callback = callback;<br>
                                    return;<br>
                                    }<br>
                                  }<br>
                                m_list.push_front(CallbackEntry(nametag,
                          callback));<br>
                                }<br>
                              void Deregister(const std::string
                          &nametag)<br>
                                {<br>
                                Register(nametag, nullptr);<br>
                                }<br>
                              typedef std::function<void (const
                          std::string &nametag, FN callback)>
                          visit_fn_t;<br>
                              void Call(visit_fn_t visit)<br>
                                {<br>
                                for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                          m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                                  {<br>
                                  const CallbackEntry &entry = *it;<br>
                                  if (entry.m_callback)<br>
                                    visit(entry.m_name,
                          entry.m_callback);<br>
                                  }<br>
                                }<br>
                            };</font><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 Mar
                      2024 at 12:08, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a
                        href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
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                      <div>Michael,
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I suggest that if it is a separate
                          component then better to move it to it’s own
                          component directory (just as canopen is done).</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>For completeness, I suggest it would also
                          be good to include a CONFIG_OVMS_COMP_*
                          sdkconfig (default: yes), and put that as a
                          requirement for your component (as well as for
                          any vehicle doing polling, I guess).</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Regards, Mark<br
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                          <div><br>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div>On 14 Mar 2024, at 11:01 AM, Michael
                                Geddes <<a
href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net</a>>
                                wrote:</div>
                              <br>
                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div>Thanks Michael, Mark,</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Sorry for not acknowledging
                                    earlier.. this feedback is great;
                                    I've just been cogitating on the
                                    consequences. </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  I still have the Poller hanging onto
                                  the vehicle by a thread so I should
                                  just cut the thread making the Poller
                                  a separate singleton (it's still
                                  embedded in the vehicle class for now
                                  with a small interface joining them).
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>If I do, does it need to get
                                    moved to a new directory or can it
                                    stay in the vehicle/ directory?  The
                                    file vehicle_poller.cpp (and the
                                    _isotp and vwtp parts to it) are
                                    still pretty much as they were with
                                    only a change in class name..<br>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I think I just need the poller
                                      to get its own values of m_can1
                                      etc and provide a different way of
                                      getting the feedback results.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I also need to make sure I'm
                                      not cutting off the 'vehicle'
                                      class' access to non-solicited
                                      messages (ie stuff that is just on
                                      the bus).</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>//.ichael</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On
                                    Mon, 11 Mar 2024 at 14:51, Michael
                                    Balzer <<a
                                      href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                    wrote:<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div> Actually, separating the
                                      poller from the vehicle was part
                                      of the plan of reworking it into a
                                      job/worker architecture. I see no
                                      reason the generalized poller
                                      would need to remain coupled to
                                      the vehicle.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      That's why I placed the OBD single
                                      request command in the "obdii"
                                      hierarchy (although a more proper
                                      naming would have been e.g.
                                      "isotp", but changing the name or
                                      having both would confuse users --
                                      and meanwhile the poller also
                                      supports a non-ISO TP variant).<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Regards,<br>
                                      Michael<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>Am 11.03.24 um 00:51 schrieb
                                        Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <blockquote type="cite"> Michael,
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>It depends on whether the
                                          poller can *only* be used in
                                          the vehicle class or if it is
                                          a framework all by itself (for
                                          example with commands to
                                          manually poll specific PIDs,
                                          etc).</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>If *only* within vehicle
                                          framework, then putting it as
                                          a sub-command under ‘vehicle’
                                          seems sensible.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>If more general purpose,
                                          then perhaps look at ‘copen’
                                          (component/canopen) as an
                                          example.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Regards, Mark.<br
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                                          <div><br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div>On 10 Mar 2024, at
                                                7:25 AM, Michael Geddes
                                                <a
href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net" target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net></a>
                                                wrote:</div>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>
                                                <div dir="ltr">
                                                  <div>Hi all,</div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>I know some of
                                                    this (especially for
                                                    the status)
                                                    functionality is
                                                    predicated on code
                                                    that's not gone up
                                                    yet - however this
                                                    is allowing 'pause'
                                                    and 'resume' of the
                                                    poller (which has
                                                    been merged).</div>
                                                  <div>My question is
                                                    not so much about
                                                    the
                                                    functionality and
                                                    status information,
                                                    but about the
                                                    location of the <b>poller</b> subcommand.
                                                    (See below). </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Should 'vehicle'
                                                    be exclusively for
                                                    switching the
                                                    vehicle type? 
                                                    Should the 'poller'
                                                    command be
                                                    top-level?  Under
                                                    obdii?  </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Thoughts welcome.</div>
                                                  <div>If you do 
                                                    vehicle poller
                                                    pause  then the last
                                                    line reads  'Vehicle
                                                    OBD Polling is
                                                    paused'</div>
                                                  <div>//.</div>
                                                  <div>-------8<----------------------------------------</div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <b>OVMS# vehicle ?</b><br>
                                                  Usage: vehicle
                                                  [list|module|poller|status]<br>
                                                  list                
                                                  Show list of available
                                                  vehicle modules<br>
                                                  module              
                                                  Set (or clear) vehicle
                                                  module<br>
                                                  poller              
                                                  OBD polling status<br>
                                                  status              
                                                  Show vehicle module
                                                  status<br>
                                                  <b>OVMS# vehicle
                                                    poller ?</b><br>
                                                  Usage: vehicle poller
                                                  [pause|resume]<br>
                                                  pause              
                                                   Pause OBD Polling<br>
                                                  resume              
                                                  Resume OBD Polling<b><br>
                                                  </b>
                                                  <div><b>OVMS# vehicle
                                                      poller</b><br>
                                                    OBD Polling running
                                                    on bus 1 with an
                                                    active list<br>
                                                    Time between polling
                                                    ticks is 1000ms with
                                                    1 secondary
                                                    sub-ticks<br>
                                                    Last poll command
                                                    received 1s (ticks)
                                                    ago.<br>
                                                    Vehicle OBD Polling
                                                    is running.<br>
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