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    Michael,<br>
    <br>
    looking forward to test this, but trying to run your branch with the
    VW e-Up leads to an early crash boot loop.<br>
    <br>
    Apparently `OvmsPollers::PollSetPidList()` doesn't check for a NULL
    plist:<br>
    <br>
    <font face="monospace">0x40195b6f is in
      OvmsPollers::PollSetPidList(canbus*, OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t
      const*, OvmsPoller::VehicleSignal*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/poller/src/vehicle_poller.cpp:1201).<br>
      1196      bool hasbus[1+VEHICLE_MAXBUSSES];<br>
      1197      for (int i = 0 ; i <= VEHICLE_MAXBUSSES; ++i)<br>
      1198        hasbus[i] = false;<br>
      1199    <br>
      1200      // Check for an Empty list.<br>
      <font color="#d83a3a"><b>1201      if (plist->txmoduleid == 0)</b></font><br>
      1202        {<br>
      1203        plist = nullptr;<br>
      1204        ESP_LOGD(TAG, "PollSetPidList - Setting Empty List");<br>
      1205        }<br>
      0x401a2675 is in OvmsVehicle::PollSetPidList(canbus*,
      OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t const*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle/vehicle.cpp:2278).<br>
      2273      return m_pollsignal;<br>
      2274      }<br>
      2275    void OvmsVehicle::PollSetPidList(canbus* bus, const
      OvmsPoller::poll_pid_t* plist)<br>
      2276      {<br>
      2277      m_poll_bus_default = bus;<br>
      2278      MyPollers.PollSetPidList(bus, plist, GetPollerSignal());<br>
      2279      }<br>
      2280    #endif<br>
      2281    <br>
      2282    /**<br>
      0x4023209e is in OvmsVehicleVWeUp::OBDInit()
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/src/vweup_obd.cpp:233).<br>
      228       obd_state_t previous_state = m_obd_state;<br>
      229       m_obd_state = OBDS_Config;<br>
      230     <br>
      231       if (previous_state != OBDS_Pause)<br>
      232       {<br>
      <font color="#d83a3a"><b>233         PollSetPidList(m_can1, NULL);</b></font><br>
      234         PollSetThrottling(0);<br>
      235         PollSetResponseSeparationTime(1);<br>
      236     <br>
      237         if
      (StandardMetrics.ms_v_charge_inprogress->AsBool())</font><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.03.24 um 10:17 schrieb Michael
      Geddes:<br>
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cite="mid:CAH0p7uJy9qJiobiJzJ382SYyxNZvhjxeoYF80aEk8ZLiN0eg0Q@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">I've pushed up my working tree  here:  <a
href="https://github.com/frogonwheels/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/new-poller"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/frogonwheels/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/new-poller</a>
        <div>partly for feedback, and partly because I wanted it backed
          up!<br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>This incorporates about 10 pull/requests worth of work
            which is why I didn't even add it as a draft, so I see this
            as taking some number of months to push up.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Of interest is really the final
            components/poller/src/vehicle_poller*  files and how that
            has all come together..  I've added some preliminary </div>
          <div>documentation for that  which I'm quite happy to accept
            any critiques or requests for specific information!</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>The Duktape  metrics 'stale, age' methods are probably
            ready for a p/r as-is.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>//.ichael</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 16:58,
          Michael Geddes <<a
            href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net"
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          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Thanks Michael,
            <div>I'll definitely add the config - pretty much sorted out
              the singleton (except for the change of directory).  Just
              wondering if I should rebase this change down earlier or
              just keep it as the 'last change' that is making the final
              break.  It might be a better transition that way?</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Anyway have a look at this little class below; we have
              a bunch of different implementations for an event register
              and came up with the OvmsCallBackRegister below.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>In my example the event notification looks like this:<br>
                  void PollRunFinished(canbus *bus)<br>
                    {<br>
            </div>
            <div>      m_runfinished_callback.Call(<br>
                      [bus](const std::string &name, const
              PollCallback &cb)<br>
                        {<br>
                        cb(bus, nullptr);<br>
                        });<br>
            </div>
            <div>    }</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I could possibly but it in main/ovms_utils.h  ??  It
              could also use a std:map to implement it, though I think
              we save space this way and tbh the use case wouldn't be
              doing a lot of Register and Unregister which would be the
              slowest operations...   I've made it not shrink the list
              size .... but again, not that important in the context.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Thoughts?</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>//.ichael</div>
            <div>--------------8< -----------------------------------</div>
            <div>
              <div><font face="monospace">/* Call-back register.<br>
                   * The list does not shrink which is fine for this
                  use-case.<br>
                   * Can be made inexpensively threadsafe/re-entrant
                  safe.<br>
                   */<br>
                  template <typename FN><br>
                  class OvmsCallBackRegister<br>
                    {<br>
                    private:<br>
                    class CallbackEntry<br>
                      {<br>
                      public:<br>
                        CallbackEntry(const std::string &caller, FN
                  callback)<br>
                          {<br>
                          m_name = caller;<br>
                          m_callback = callback;<br>
                          }<br>
                        ~CallbackEntry() {}<br>
                      public:<br>
                        std::string m_name;<br>
                        FN m_callback;<br>
                      };<br>
                      typedef std::forward_list<CallbackEntry>
                  callbacklist_t;<br>
                      callbacklist_t m_list;<br>
                    public:<br>
                      ~OvmsCallBackRegister()<br>
                        {<br>
                        }<br>
                      void Register(const std::string &nametag, FN
                  callback)<br>
                        {<br>
                        // Replace<br>
                        for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                  m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                          {<br>
                          if ((*it).m_name == nametag)<br>
                            {<br>
                            (*it).m_callback = callback;<br>
                            return;<br>
                            }<br>
                          }<br>
                        if (!callback)<br>
                          return;<br>
                        for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                  m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                          {<br>
                          if (!(*it).m_callback)<br>
                            {<br>
                            CallbackEntry &entry = *it;<br>
                            entry.m_name = nametag;<br>
                            entry.m_callback = callback;<br>
                            return;<br>
                            }<br>
                          }<br>
                        m_list.push_front(CallbackEntry(nametag,
                  callback));<br>
                        }<br>
                      void Deregister(const std::string &nametag)<br>
                        {<br>
                        Register(nametag, nullptr);<br>
                        }<br>
                      typedef std::function<void (const std::string
                  &nametag, FN callback)> visit_fn_t;<br>
                      void Call(visit_fn_t visit)<br>
                        {<br>
                        for (auto it = m_list.begin(); it !=
                  m_list.end(); ++it)<br>
                          {<br>
                          const CallbackEntry &entry = *it;<br>
                          if (entry.m_callback)<br>
                            visit(entry.m_name, entry.m_callback);<br>
                          }<br>
                        }<br>
                    };</font><br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at
              12:08, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a
                href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div>Michael,
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I suggest that if it is a separate component then
                  better to move it to it’s own component directory
                  (just as canopen is done).</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>For completeness, I suggest it would also be good
                  to include a CONFIG_OVMS_COMP_* sdkconfig (default:
                  yes), and put that as a requirement for your component
                  (as well as for any vehicle doing polling, I guess).</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Regards, Mark<br
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                  <div><br>
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                      <div>On 14 Mar 2024, at 11:01 AM, Michael Geddes
                        <<a href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net</a>>
                        wrote:</div>
                      <br>
                      <div>
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>Thanks Michael, Mark,</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Sorry for not acknowledging earlier..
                            this feedback is great; I've just been
                            cogitating on the consequences. </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          I still have the Poller hanging onto the
                          vehicle by a thread so I should just cut the
                          thread making the Poller a separate singleton
                          (it's still embedded in the vehicle class for
                          now with a small interface joining them).
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>If I do, does it need to get moved to a
                            new directory or can it stay in the vehicle/
                            directory?  The file vehicle_poller.cpp (and
                            the _isotp and vwtp parts to it) are still
                            pretty much as they were with only a change
                            in class name..<br>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I think I just need the poller to get
                              its own values of m_can1 etc and provide a
                              different way of getting the feedback
                              results.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I also need to make sure I'm not
                              cutting off the 'vehicle' class' access to
                              non-solicited messages (ie stuff that is
                              just on the bus).</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>//.ichael</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 11
                            Mar 2024 at 14:51, Michael Balzer <<a
                              href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
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                            <div> Actually, separating the poller from
                              the vehicle was part of the plan of
                              reworking it into a job/worker
                              architecture. I see no reason the
                              generalized poller would need to remain
                              coupled to the vehicle.<br>
                              <br>
                              That's why I placed the OBD single request
                              command in the "obdii" hierarchy (although
                              a more proper naming would have been e.g.
                              "isotp", but changing the name or having
                              both would confuse users -- and meanwhile
                              the poller also supports a non-ISO TP
                              variant).<br>
                              <br>
                              Regards,<br>
                              Michael<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div>Am 11.03.24 um 00:51 schrieb Mark
                                Webb-Johnson:<br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type="cite"> Michael,
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>It depends on whether the poller
                                  can *only* be used in the vehicle
                                  class or if it is a framework all by
                                  itself (for example with commands to
                                  manually poll specific PIDs, etc).</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>If *only* within vehicle framework,
                                  then putting it as a sub-command under
                                  ‘vehicle’ seems sensible.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>If more general purpose, then
                                  perhaps look at ‘copen’
                                  (component/canopen) as an example.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Regards, Mark.<br
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                                      <div>On 10 Mar 2024, at 7:25 AM,
                                        Michael Geddes <a
href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net" target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"><frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net></a>
                                        wrote:</div>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>
                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>Hi all,</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>I know some of this
                                            (especially for the status)
                                            functionality is predicated
                                            on code that's not gone up
                                            yet - however this is
                                            allowing 'pause' and
                                            'resume' of the poller
                                            (which has been merged).</div>
                                          <div>My question is not so
                                            much about the
                                            functionality and status
                                            information, but about the
                                            location of the <b>poller</b> subcommand.
                                            (See below). </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Should 'vehicle' be
                                            exclusively for switching
                                            the vehicle type?  Should
                                            the 'poller' command be
                                            top-level?  Under obdii?  </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Thoughts welcome.</div>
                                          <div>If you do  vehicle poller
                                            pause  then the last line
                                            reads  'Vehicle OBD Polling
                                            is paused'</div>
                                          <div>//.</div>
                                          <div>-------8<----------------------------------------</div>
                                          <br>
                                          <b>OVMS# vehicle ?</b><br>
                                          Usage: vehicle
                                          [list|module|poller|status]<br>
                                          list                 Show list
                                          of available vehicle modules<br>
                                          module               Set (or
                                          clear) vehicle module<br>
                                          poller               OBD
                                          polling status<br>
                                          status               Show
                                          vehicle module status<br>
                                          <b>OVMS# vehicle poller ?</b><br>
                                          Usage: vehicle poller
                                          [pause|resume]<br>
                                          pause                Pause OBD
                                          Polling<br>
                                          resume               Resume
                                          OBD Polling<b><br>
                                          </b>
                                          <div><b>OVMS# vehicle poller</b><br>
                                            OBD Polling running on bus 1
                                            with an active list<br>
                                            Time between polling ticks
                                            is 1000ms with 1 secondary
                                            sub-ticks<br>
                                            Last poll command received
                                            1s (ticks) ago.<br>
                                            Vehicle OBD Polling is
                                            running.<br>
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