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    Michael,<br>
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    did you check the SW_12V level with the HUD connected?<br>
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    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.10.22 um 06:36 schrieb Michael
      Geddes:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Thanks for the response Greg.
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          <div>I tried what you suggested and it still doesn't turn on.
            (The 'on/off' is a slider switch rather than a momentary
            button)</div>
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          <div>I also went into Jaycar and tried this simple HUD: <a
href="https://www.jaycar.com.au/gps-speedometer-head-up-display-with-obdii-data/p/LA9036?gclid=CjwKCAjwtKmaBhBMEiwAyINuwAF-ZMXvydGdYsUu--w37CmHr6mf1Emx_o2shbA3IvUNUQ4k-ZWtcBoCwQoQAvD_BwE"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.jaycar.com.au/gps-speedometer-head-up-display-with-obdii-data/p/LA9036?gclid=CjwKCAjwtKmaBhBMEiwAyINuwAF-ZMXvydGdYsUu--w37CmHr6mf1Emx_o2shbA3IvUNUQ4k-ZWtcBoCwQoQAvD_BwE</a></div>
          <div>Results were the same (didn't have time to find any
            settings though - as I got permission to try it before I
            bought it).</div>
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          <div>I also confirmed that the cable is wired exactly as
            specified (no more, no less) including 120ohm resistor.</div>
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          <div>I'm starting to think there's an issue with the OVMS
            board itself!?</div>
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          <div>//.ichael</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at
            02:09, Greg D. <<a href="mailto:gregd2350@gmail.com"
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Michael,<br>
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              Yeah, odd.  <br>
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              I see in the description that there's a power switch on
              the side of the unit, so that will probably interact with
              the voltage transition.  After turning Ext12v on, and
              pushing the on/off button on the HUD unit, I would expect
              it would turn on.  After that, transitioning Ext12v on/off
              should trigger the unit to turn on/off as well.<br>
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              Assuming you do get it running, what I would suggest is to
              create a pair of Events to force Ext12v on and off when
              the car state transitions.  For my car, the states are
              vehicle.on and vehicle.off, but yours might be different. 
              In the "on" event script I also stop and restart the
              obd2ecu process, as that will clear the CAN3 bus hang that
              I've experienced.  It's a long shot, but perhaps the HUD
              isn't turning on because it's not seeing CAN traffic.  You
              might try the 12v off / ecu stop / ecu start / 12v on
              sequence manually and see if that wakes the HUD up.<br>
              <blockquote>OVMS# vfs cat /store/events/vehicle.on/myevent<br>
                power ext12v off<br>
                obdii ecu stop<br>
                obdii ecu start can3<br>
                power ext12v on<br>
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                OVMS# vfs cat /store/events/vehicle.off/myevent<br>
                power ext12v off<br>
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              Good luck!<br>
              <br>
              Greg<br>
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              <div>Michael Geddes wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">More information:
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                    <div>I'm definitely getting power on the OVMS ->
                      OBDII cable.  11 volts when the car is off, and
                      12.6 volts when the car is on. I'm assuming this
                      is quite deliberate. (And like 0.2 volts when the
                      power to the ext12v is off).</div>
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                    <div>By default, the HUD was needing (according to
                      docs - probably) 13.2v to trigger it to turn on..
                      so I connected it directly to the car OBD and
                      changed that setting to 11.5 volts.</div>
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                    <div>When I turned the car off (still connected
                      directly).. the HUD remained on as it was still
                      getting > 12V.. so the setting definitely
                      worked.</div>
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                    <div>Unfortunately when I then connected the OVMS to
                      the OBDII and the OVMS -> OBDII cable to the
                      HUD - it still didn't turn on. :(  (oh and yes -
                      "power ext12v on".  </div>
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                    <div>Any thoughts on this would be welcome.</div>
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                    <div>//.ichael</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 15 Oct 2022
                    at 07:15, Michael Geddes <<a
                      href="mailto:frog@bunyip.wheelycreek.net"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br>
                      <div>Anybody got any experience with HUDs?</div>
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                      <div>I bought this simple HUD from FastTech:</div>
                      <div><a
                          href="https://www.fasttech.com/products/9686283"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.fasttech.com/products/9686283</a></div>
                      <div>When connected direct to the OBDII port, it
                        powers on and seems to function. When I connect
                        it to the OVMS module with the standard <a
                          href="https://www.fasttech.com/products/9652027"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.fasttech.com/products/9652027</a> 
                        the HUD doesn't even power on.</div>
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                      <div>It's stated draw is 200ma which afaict should
                        be fine.  I'm pretty sure the 12V power is
                        getting to PIN 16... though I will try again to
                        make sure. I only have a crappy little
                        Multimeter.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>On the Troubleshooting it states:</div>
                      <div>   "HUD only available for cars with OBD2 and
                        EU-OBD agreements ... HUD Products don't support
                        JOBD and OBDI protocol."</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>The OBD HUD connector has the following pins:</div>
                      <div>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">4*
                          Chassis</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">5*
                          Signal Ground</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">6
                          CAN High</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">7
                          <b>ISO9141 K Line</b></p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">14
                          CAN Low</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">15
                          <b>ISO9141 L Line</b></p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">16
                          Vehicle Battery +ve</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">*
                          Long pins</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent"><br>
                        </p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">These
                          are the standard OVMS supplied pins:</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">4
                          Chassis Ground</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">5
                          Chassis Ground</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">6
                          CAN H (Primary)</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">14
                          CAN L (Primary)</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">16
                          +12V</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">So
                          obviously the main difference is the lack of K
                          / L lines in the OVMS ... but I wouldn't have
                          thought that would have prevented it from
                          powering up.</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">Does
                          anybody have any thoughts on this?</p>
                        <p
                          style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0cm;background:transparent">//.ichael</p>
                        <p
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