<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">As mentioned previously, another thing to check would be the 12v reading:<div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class="">metric list v.b.12v.voltage</div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>See if there is any difference in that between the car awake vs sleeping (probably safest to do this test with no car module loaded, so no polling at all).</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards, Mark.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 3 Aug 2020, at 12:19 PM, Soko <<a href="mailto:ovms@soko.cc" class="">ovms@soko.cc</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">Mornin,</p><p class="">Source is here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/src">https://github.com/devmarxx/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/tree/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/vehicle_vweup/src</a></p><p class="">Attached are two logs. I haven't had the can-monitor active
unfortuantely..</p><p class=""><b class="">VWUP_OFF_TICKER_THRESHOLD 5 with 4 trys.log</b><br class="">
As the name says it polls every 5 seconds in PollState=1 and swaps
back to PollState=0 after 5*4=20 seconds.<br class="">
Until line 35 you see the CAN errors as the vehicle is OFF. Then I
unlocked the car and in line 38 I get the first reply.<br class="">
Around line 90 I locked the car again. It polls, but gets no
reply, <u class="">but not error either</u> (?!).<br class="">
Line 118 sets the PollState=0 and suddenly a response comes in. So
in Line 123 I set the PollState=1 again.<br class="">
The the game starts again: Polls get send, no reply but no error
either. After 21 CarOffTickers I switch to PollState=0 and
suddenly a reply comes in...</p><p class=""><b class="">VWUP_OFF_TICKER_THRESHOLD 10 with 4 trys.log<br class="">
</b>Here I unlocked at line 57 and locked around line 100. After
that polls get send, no reply, <u class="">but errors happen</u>. And the
car is finally off.<br class="">
Although I've tried the same thing later that day and the car
didn't even go to sleep with Threshold=30!?!? So the behavior is
not 100% reproducible (yet)...<br class="">
</p><p class="">@gateway throttling: In VCDS (which - hopefully - does only
polling too) I have a little number showing me the refresh rates
of the values. It indicates ~8 refreshes per second. So with 1
second shouldn't be any throttling.</p><p class="">@OBD "tester": I have no clue what this is ;) So if the polling
framework doesn't do it, I don't do it. All I do is in the
obd_eup.* files.</p><p class="">Soko<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02.08.2020 20:12, Michael Balzer
wrote:<br class="">
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Soko,<br class="">
<br class="">
polling may keep the car awake, that's also an issue on the Kia
e-Niro IIRC.<br class="">
<br class="">
Changing the PollState can only affect the car indirectly via the
changed polls. Maybe you could add your code & a log?<br class="">
<br class="">
Regarding the poll replies stopping, is that also reflected in a
CAN log? Maybe the OBD gateway throttles if it sees too many
requests? (Hopefully not…)<br class="">
<br class="">
If the gateway does throttling: do you login to the OBD as a
"tester" and keep the session active by periodically sending the
"tester present" frame?<br class="">
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Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 02.08.20 um 19:30 schrieb Soko:<br class="">
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charset=UTF-8" class=""><p class="">Heya again,</p><p class="">I'm trying to develop a detection for when the car is
off/locked but I'm encountering a weird phenomena:</p>
<ul class="">
<li class="">Car is shut down and locked</li>
<li class="">OVMS connected</li>
<li class="">CAN poll for voltage (only one poll value active) with 30
secs fails with error (so far nothing weird)</li>
<li class="">Unlock the car via car-key remote</li>
<li class="">Poll succeeds and I'm switching from PollState=0 to
PollState=1 where I poll every 2 secs</li>
<li class="">Lock the car via car-key remote</li>
<li class=""><u class="">After 1 hour the polls still work and the car is active</u></li>
</ul><p class="">Is something like this known from other vehicles? So
basically my car never shuts down :(</p><p class="">Another secondary weird thing:<br class="">
When increasing the time to 5 secs for PollState=1 the polls
get no reply and after 20 secs I swap back to PollState=0.<br class="">
BUT the second the PollState changes the car replies again...<br class="">
Even more weirdness: When PollState=1 time is 10 secs and I
swap back to Pollstate=0 after 40 secs the same thing happens!
Immediately I swap to PollState=0 the car replies again.<br class="">
As if the PollState switching somehow wakes the car up??!</p><p class="">Any ideas?</p><p class="">Soko<br class="">
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