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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A suggestion: use error notifications
for visible/real errors, and a history record table for all
errors/debug messages?<br>
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Michael<br>
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Am 31.10.19 um 09:57 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Good suggestion, But unfortunately we haven’t been
able to find that signal on the can bus. I suspect it is never
sent, but just entered and stored in the VDS; as the vms sends
debug alerts regardless of the setting. The alert message
strings are in the vds firmware, and vms only sends codes.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">To do this properly would require ovms doing what
the vds does - have an alert code -> debug/user,message table
and do the conversion and filtering there (not in the server).
But that is quite a bit of code flash memory.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Watching this thread with
some interest as I, like Greg, would like to see the
“Debug” alerts over OVMS. I would note that if the
goal is to have OVMS show what the VDS shows, if you
have the Roadster set to “Show Debug”, then OVMS <u>will
not</u> show what VDS shows. Is it possible to
track the status of “Debug reporting to VDS” in the
car, and have the OVMS server relay accordingly?</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; text-align: left;" dir="ltr">Thanks,
and apologies for jumping in.</div>
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The server doesn’t have any per-vehicle configuration
(other than authentication), so not sure how this could
be easily done server side.
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<div class="">A kludge might be to pickup the
notification event in a javascript on the module, and
then raise a new different textual event for specific
IDs - but not sure if the vehicle module javascript
framework gets enough about the raised notification in
order to do that.<br class="">
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<div class="">An alternate kludge would be to manually
list vehicle IDs to be exempted from the DMC policy
in the ovms_server.conf file, and have code to check
that in ovms_server.pl.</div>
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<div class="">But, that said, I’m not really sure why
we would want this. Our goal has always been to
mirror what it says on the little VDS in the car,
and that doesn’t show these debug-only alerts. The
solution we have is not perfect, but it does avoid
the worst of them. I have received so many support
questions and concerns from roadster users of OVMS
asking about these over the years - Tesla is aware
that they false positive so labelled them as
debug-only, so why would we want to bombard the user
with these alerts every time he drives/charges the
car?</div>
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Bummer.<br class="">
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Can we make this configurable? While I
understand that debug messages aren't
intended to be seen by the user, in the 10
years since these cars launched we have come
to know a lot more about some of the, um,
"quirks" in their design. These alerts can
be important! <br class="">
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Greg<br class="">
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<div class="">Yes, this change to the
server code:</div>
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<div class="">That won’t notify
debug-only messages, but will still
continue to notify the user-visible
ones (to better mimick the behaviour
in the car itself). Including, for the
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<li class="">1144=DMC: Powertrain
Problem Service Required</li>
<li class="">1146=DMC: Motor Fan
Problem</li>
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<div class="">Hi folks (Mark,
probably),<br class="">
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Interesting... My Tesla
Roadster has been having trouble
with its PEM<br class="">
fan, causing a bunch of 1146
Alerts to be generated while
driving and/or<br class="">
charging. I've been monitoring
the situation via OVMSv3. <br
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The alerts suddenly stopped a
bit over a week ago. Other
events<br class="">
continue to be received (charge
start, stop, key in / door open,
etc.),<br class="">
but not the 1146's. I do a
monthly download of the car
logs, and to my<br class="">
surprise (and disappointment),
the 1146s are still happening.<br
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Was there a change to the
plumbing somewhere such that
these diagnostic<br class="">
alerts (perhaps versus
user-visible events) are now
being filtered out? <br
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Greg<br class="">
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