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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Correct.<br>
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      Regards,<br>
      Michael<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Am 19.09.19 um 09:29 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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      I’m just worried about the users who don’t know about this new
      feature. When they deploy this version, they suddenly start
      sending 6MB of data a month up to us.
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      <div class="">I think the ‘fix’ is just to change ovms_module.c:</div>
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        <div class="">MyConfig.GetParamValueBool("module",
          "debug.tasks", true)</div>
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        <div class="">to</div>
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        <div class="">MyConfig.GetParamValueBool("module",
          "debug.tasks", false)</div>
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        <div>That would then only submit these logs for those that
          explicitly turn it on?</div>
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        <div>Regards, Mark.</div>
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          <blockquote type="cite" class="">
            <div class="">On 19 Sep 2019, at 3:23 PM, Michael Balzer
              <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry, I didn't think about
                  this being an issue elsewhere -- german data plans
                  typically start at minimum 100 MB/month flat (that's
                  my current plan at 3 € / month).<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  No need for a new release, it can be turned off OTA by
                  issueing<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <tt class="">config set module debug.tasks no</tt><br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Regards,<br class="">
                  Michael<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Am 19.09.19 um 09:08 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br
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                  cite="mid:BFED773E-0CFE-4EBB-A3B4-9B44FE4A783D@webb-johnson.net"
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                  Yep:
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                    <div class="">758 bytes * (86400 / 300) * 30 =
                      6.5MB/month</div>
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                    <div class="">That is going over data (not SD).
                      Presumably cellular data for a large portion of
                      the time.</div>
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                    <div class="">I think we need to default this to
                      OFF, and make a 3.2.004 to avoid this becoming an
                      issue.</div>
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                    <div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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                        <div class="">On 19 Sep 2019, at 2:04 PM,
                          Stephen Casner <<a
                            href="mailto:casner@acm.org" class=""
                            moz-do-not-send="true">casner@acm.org</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
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                          <div class="">That's 6.55MB/month, unless you
                            have unusually short months!  :-)<br
                              class="">
                            <br class="">
                            In what space is that data stored?  A log
                            written to SD?  That's not<br class="">
                            likely to fill up the SD card too fast, but
                            what happens if no SD card<br class="">
                            is installed?<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                                                       -- Steve<br
                              class="">
                            <br class="">
                            On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Mark Webb-Johnson
                            wrote:<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                              <blockquote type="cite" class="">    To
                                enable CPU usage statistics, apply the
                                changes to sdkconfig<br class="">
                                   included.<br class="">
                                   New history record:<br class="">
                                   - "*-OVM-DebugTasks" v1:
                                <taskcnt,totaltime> + per task:<br
                                  class="">
       <tasknum,name,state,stack_now,stack_max,stack_total,<br
                                  class="">
        heap_total,heap_32bit,heap_spi,runtime><br class="">
                                     Note: CPU core use percentage =
                                runtime / totaltime<br class="">
                              </blockquote>
                              <br class="">
                              I’ve just noticed that this is enabled by
                              default now (my production build has the
                              sdkconfig updated, as per defaults).<br
                                class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I am seeing 758 bytes of history record,
                              every 5 minutes. About 218KB/day, or
                              654KB/month.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Should this be opt-in?<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Regards, Mark.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <blockquote type="cite" class="">On 8 Sep
                                2019, at 5:43 PM, Michael Balzer <<a
                                  href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                  class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                wrote:<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                I've pushed some modifications and
                                improvements to (hopefully) fix the
                                timer issue or at least be able to debug
                                it.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Some sdkconfig changes are necessary.<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                The build including these updates is on
                                my edge release as
                                3.2.002-258-g20ae554b.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Btw: the network restart strategy seems
                                to mitigate issue #241; I've seen a
                                major drop on record repetitions on my
                                server since the rollout.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                commit
                                99e4e48bdd40b7004c0976f51aba9e3da4ecab53<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Module: add per task CPU usage
                                statistics, add task stats history
                                records<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   To enable CPU usage statistics, apply
                                the changes to sdkconfig<br class="">
                                   included. The CPU usage shown by the
                                commands is calculated against<br
                                  class="">
                                   the last task status retrieved (or
                                system boot).<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Command changes:<br class="">
                                   - "module tasks" -- added CPU (core)
                                usage in percent per task<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   New command:<br class="">
                                   - "module tasks data" -- output task
                                stats in history record form<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   New config:<br class="">
                                   - [module] debug.tasks -- yes
                                (default) = send task stats every 5
                                minutes<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   New history record:<br class="">
                                   - "*-OVM-DebugTasks" v1:
                                <taskcnt,totaltime> + per task:<br
                                  class="">
       <tasknum,name,state,stack_now,stack_max,stack_total,<br
                                  class="">
        heap_total,heap_32bit,heap_spi,runtime><br class="">
                                     Note: CPU core use percentage =
                                runtime / totaltime<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                commit
                                950172c216a72beb4da0bc7a40a46995a6105955<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Build config: default timer service
                                task priority raised to 20<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Background: the FreeRTOS timer
                                service shall only be used for very<br
                                  class="">
                                     short and non-blocking jobs. We
                                delegate event processing to our<br
                                  class="">
                                     events task, anything else in
                                timers needs to run with high<br
                                  class="">
                                     priority.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                commit
                                31ac19d187480046c16356b80668de45cacbb83d<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   DukTape: add build config for task
                                priority, default lowered to 3<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Background: the DukTape garbage
                                collector shall run on lower<br class="">
                                     priority than tasks like SIMCOM
                                & events<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                commit
                                e0a44791fbcfb5a4e4cad24c9d1163b76e637b4f<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Server V2: use esp_log_timestamp for
                                timeout detection,<br class="">
                                     add timeout config, limit data
                                records & size per second<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   New config:<br class="">
                                   - [server.v2] timeout.rx -- timeout
                                in seconds, default 960<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                commit
                                684a4ce9525175a910040f0d1ca82ac212fbf5de<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                   Notify: use esp_log_timestamp for
                                creation time instead of monotonictime<br
                                  class="">
                                     to harden against timer service
                                starvation / ticker event drops<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Regards,<br class="">
                                Michael<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Am 07.09.19 um 10:55 schrieb Michael
                                Balzer:<br class="">
                                <blockquote type="cite" class="">I think
                                  the RTOS timer service task starves.
                                  It's running on core 0 with priority
                                  1.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Taks on core 0 sorted by priority:<br
                                    class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Number of Tasks = 20      Stack:  Now
                                    Max Total    Heap 32-bit SPIRAM C#
                                  PRI<br class="">
                                  3FFC84A8  6 Blk ipc0              388
                                    500  1024    7788      0      0  0
                                   24<br class="">
                                  3FFC77F0  5 Blk OVMS CanRx        428
                                    428  2048    3052      0  31844  0
                                   23<br class="">
                                  3FFAFBF4  1 Blk esp_timer         400
                                    656  4096   35928    644  25804  0
                                   22<br class="">
                                  3FFD3240 19 Blk wifi              460
                                   2716  3584   43720      0     20  0
                                   22<br class="">
                                  3FFC03C4  2 Blk eventTask         448
                                   1984  4608     104      0      0  0
                                   20<br class="">
                                  3FFC8F14 17 Blk tiT               500
                                   2308  3072    6552      0      0  *
                                   18<br class="">
                                  3FFE14F0 26 Blk OVMS COrx         456
                                    456  4096       0      0      0  0
                                    7<br class="">
                                  3FFE19D4 27 Blk OVMS COwrk        476
                                    476  3072       0      0      0  0
                                    7<br class="">
                                  3FFCBC34 12 Blk Tmr Svc           352
                                    928  3072      88      0      0  0
                                    1<br class="">
                                  3FFE7708 23 Blk mdns              468
                                   1396  4096     108      0      0  0
                                    1<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  I don't think it's our CanRx, as that
                                  only fetches and queues CAN frames,
                                  the actual work is done by the
                                  listeners. The CO tasks only run for
                                  CANopen jobs, which are few for normal
                                  operation.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  That leaves the system tasks, with
                                  main suspect -once again- the wifi
                                  blob.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  We need to know how much CPU time the
                                  tasks actually use now. I think I saw
                                  some option for this in the FreeRTOS
                                  config.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Regards,<br class="">
                                  Michael<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  Am 06.09.19 um 23:15 schrieb Michael
                                  Balzer:<br class="">
                                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">The
                                    workaround is based on the
                                    monotonictime being updated per
                                    second, as do the history record
                                    offsets.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Apparently, that mechanism doesn't
                                    work reliably. That may be an
                                    indicator for some bigger underlying
                                    issue.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Example log excerpt:<br class="">
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                                    This shows the ticker was only run
                                    299 times from 22:07:48 to 22:21:57.<br
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                                    After 22:21:57 the workaround was
                                    triggered and did a reconnect.
                                    Apparently during that network
                                    reinitialization of 103 seconds, the
                                    per second ticker was run 628 times.<br
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                                    That can't be catching up on the
                                    event queue, as that queue has only
                                    20 slots. So something strange is
                                    going on here.<br class="">
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                                    Any ideas?<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Regards,<br class="">
                                    Michael<br class="">
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                                    <br class="">
                                    Am 06.09.19 um 08:04 schrieb Michael
                                    Balzer:<br class="">
                                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">Mark
                                      & anyone else running a V2
                                      server,<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      as most cars don't send history
                                      records, this also needs the
                                      change to the server I just
                                      pushed, i.e. server version 2.4.2.<br
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                                      <a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commits/master"
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href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commits/master"
                                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/commits/master</a>><br
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                                      Regards,<br class="">
                                      Michael<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      Am 05.09.19 um 19:55 schrieb
                                      Michael Balzer:<br class="">
                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">I've
                                        pushed the nasty workaround: the
                                        v2 server checks for no RX over
                                        15 minutes, then restarts the
                                        network (wifi & modem) as
                                        configured for autostart.<br
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                                        Rolled out on my server in edge
                                        as 3.2.002-237-ge075f655.<br
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                                        <br class="">
                                        Please test.<br class="">
                                        <br class="">
                                        Regards,<br class="">
                                        Michael<br class="">
                                        <br class="">
                                        <br class="">
                                        Am 05.09.19 um 01:58 schrieb
                                        Mark Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
                                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                                          <blockquote type="cite"
                                            class="">Mark, you can check
                                            your server logs for history
                                            messages with ridiculous
                                            time offsets:<br class="">
                                            [sddexter@ns27 server]$ cat
                                            log-20190903 | egrep "rx msg
                                            h [0-9]+,-[0-9]{4}" | wc -l<br
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                                            455283<br class="">
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <br class="">
                                          I checked my logs and see 12
                                          vehicles showing this. But, 2
                                          only show this for a
                                          debugcrash log (which is
                                          expected, I guess, if the time
                                          is not synced at report time).
                                          I’ve got 4 cars with the
                                          offset > 10,000.<br
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                                          <br class="">
                                          Regards, Mark.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <blockquote type="cite"
                                            class="">On 4 Sep 2019, at
                                            4:45 AM, Michael Balzer <<a
href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>
                                            <<a
                                              href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
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                                            wrote:<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            Everyone,<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            I've pushed a change that
                                            needs some testing.<br
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                                            I had the issue myself now
                                            parking at a certain
                                            distance from my garage wifi
                                            AP, i.e. on the edge of
                                            "in", after wifi had been
                                            disconnected for some hours,
                                            and with the module still
                                            connected via modem. The
                                            wifi blob had been trying to
                                            connect to the AP for about
                                            two hours.<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            As seen before, the module
                                            saw no error, just the
                                            server responses and
                                            commands stopped coming in.
                                            I noticed the default
                                            interface was still "st1"
                                            despite wifi having been
                                            disconnected and modem
                                            connected. The DNS was also
                                            still configured for my wifi
                                            network, and the interface
                                            seemed to have an IP address
                                            -- but wasn't pingable from
                                            the wifi network.<br
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                                            <br class="">
                                            A power cycle of the modem
                                            solved the issue without
                                            reboot. So the cause may be
                                            in the modem/ppp subsystem,
                                            or it may be related (in
                                            some weird way) to the
                                            default interface / DNS
                                            setup.<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            More tests showed the
                                            default interface
                                            again/still got set by the
                                            wifi blob itself at some
                                            point, overriding our modem
                                            prioritization. The events
                                            we didn't handle up to now
                                            were "sta.connected" and
                                            "sta.lostip", so I added
                                            these, and the bug didn't
                                            show up again since then.
                                            That doesn't mean anything,
                                            so we need to test this.<br
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                                            <br class="">
                                            The default interface really
                                            shouldn't affect inbound
                                            packet routing of an
                                            established connection, but
                                            there always may be strange
                                            bugs lurking in those libs.<br
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                                            <br class="">
                                            The change also reimplements
                                            the wifi signal strength
                                            reading, as the tests also
                                            showed that still wasn't
                                            working well using the CSI
                                            callback. It now seems to be
                                            much more reliable.<br
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                                            <br class="">
                                            Please test & report.
                                            The single module will be
                                            hard to test, as the bug
                                            isn't reproducable easily,
                                            but you can still try if
                                            wifi / modem transitions
                                            work well.<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            Mark, you can check your
                                            server logs for history
                                            messages with ridiculous
                                            time offsets:<br class="">
                                            [sddexter@ns27 server]$ cat
                                            log-20190903 | egrep "rx msg
                                            h [0-9]+,-[0-9]{4}" | wc -l<br
                                              class="">
                                            455283<br class="">
                                            The bug now severely affects
                                            the V2 server performance,
                                            as the server is single
                                            threaded and doesn't scale
                                            very well to this kind of
                                            bulk data bursts, especially
                                            when coming from multiple
                                            modules in parallel. So we
                                            really need to solve this
                                            now. Slow reactions or
                                            connection drops from my
                                            server lately have been due
                                            to this bug. If this change
                                            doesn't solve it, we'll need
                                            to add some reboot trigger
                                            on "too many server v2
                                            notification
                                            retransmissions" -- or maybe
                                            a modem power cycle will do,
                                            that wouldn't discard the
                                            data.<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            Thanks,<br class="">
                                            Michael<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            Am 03.09.19 um 07:46 schrieb
                                            Mark Webb-Johnson:<br
                                              class="">
                                            <blockquote type="cite"
                                              class="">No problem. We
                                              can hold. I won’t commit
                                              anything for the next few
                                              days (and agree to
                                              hold-off on Markos’s
                                              pull). Let me know when
                                              you are ready.<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Regards, Mark.<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              <blockquote type="cite"
                                                class="">On 3 Sep 2019,
                                                at 1:58 AM, Michael
                                                Balzer <<a
                                                  href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                                  class=""
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                                <<a
                                                  href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
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                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                                wrote:<br class="">
                                                <br class="">
                                                Mark, please wait.<br
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                                                <br class="">
                                                I may just have found
                                                the cause for issue
                                                #241, or at least
                                                something I need to
                                                investigate before
                                                releasing.<br class="">
                                                <br class="">
                                                I need to dig into my
                                                logs first, and try
                                                something.<br class="">
                                                <br class="">
                                                Regards,<br class="">
                                                Michael<br class="">
                                                <br class="">
                                                <br class="">
                                                Am 02.09.19 um 12:23
                                                schrieb Michael Balzer:<br
                                                  class="">
                                                <blockquote type="cite"
                                                  class="">Nothing open
                                                  from my side at the
                                                  moment.<br class="">
                                                  <br class="">
                                                  I haven't had the time
                                                  to look in to Markos
                                                  pull request, but from
                                                  a first check also
                                                  think that's going too
                                                  deep to be included in
                                                  this release.<br
                                                    class="">
                                                  <br class="">
                                                  Regards,<br class="">
                                                  Michael<br class="">
                                                  <br class="">
                                                  <br class="">
                                                  Am 02.09.19 um 04:15
                                                  schrieb Mark
                                                  Webb-Johnson:<br
                                                    class="">
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    type="cite" class="">I
                                                    think it is well
                                                    past time for a
                                                    3.2.003 release.
                                                    Things seems table
                                                    in edge (although
                                                    some things only
                                                    partially
                                                    implemented).<br
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                                                    <br class="">
                                                    Anything people want
                                                    to include at the
                                                    last minute, or can
                                                    we go ahead and
                                                    build?<br class="">
                                                    <br class="">
                                                    Regards, Mark.<br
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                                                    <br class="">
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