<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I got a sample. Physically and electrically, it is pretty much a drop in replacement for the SIM5360. But, the firmware (and AT commands) are different.<div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (69794) simcom: rx: 0a 4f 4b 0d 0a | .OK..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (69794) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=2 : OK</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (71754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 47 4d 52 3b 2b 49 43 43 49 44 0d 0a | AT+CGMR;+ICCID..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (71754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=16 : AT+CGMR;+ICCID</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (71764) simcom: rx: 0d 0a 2b 43 47 4d 52 3a 20 4c 45 31 31 42 30 32 | ..+CGMR: LE11B02</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (71764) simcom: rx: 53 49 4d 37 36 30 30 4d 32 31 2d 41 0d 0a 0d 0a | SIM7600M21-A....</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (71774) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=26 : +CGMR: LE11B02SIM7600M21-A</span></font></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; font-family: "Andale Mono";" class="">(redacted)</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; font-family: "Andale Mono";" class="">V (71774) simcom: rx: 4b 0d 0a | K..</span></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (71774) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=2 : OK</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (74754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4f 50 53 3f | AT+COPS?</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (74754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=8 : AT+COPS?</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">OVMS# metrics list mdm</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">m.net.mdm.iccid (redacted)</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">m.net.mdm.model LE11B02SIM7600M21-A</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (75754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4d 55 58 53 52 56 50 4f 52 54 3d 33 | AT+CMUXSRVPORT=3</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (75754) simcom: tx: 2c 31 0d 0a | ,1..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (75754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=20 : AT+CMUXSRVPORT=3,1</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (75764) simcom: rx: 0d 0a 45 52 52 4f 52 0d 0a | ..ERROR..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (75764) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=5 : ERROR</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (76754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4d 55 58 53 52 56 50 4f 52 54 3d 32 | AT+CMUXSRVPORT=2</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (76754) simcom: tx: 2c 31 0d 0a | ,1..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (76754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=20 : AT+CMUXSRVPORT=2,1</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (76764) simcom: rx: 0d 0a 45 52 52 4f 52 0d 0a | ..ERROR..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (76764) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=5 : ERROR</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (77754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4d 55 58 53 52 56 50 4f 52 54 3d 31 | AT+CMUXSRVPORT=1</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (77754) simcom: tx: 2c 31 0d 0a | ,1..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (77754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=20 : AT+CMUXSRVPORT=1,1</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (77764) simcom: rx: 0d 0a 45 52 52 4f 52 0d 0a | ..ERROR..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (77764) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=5 : ERROR</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (78754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4d 55 58 53 52 56 50 4f 52 54 3d 30 | AT+CMUXSRVPORT=0</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (78754) simcom: tx: 2c 35 0d 0a | ,5..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (78754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=20 : AT+CMUXSRVPORT=0,5</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (78764) simcom: rx: 0d 0a 45 52 52 4f 52 0d 0a | ..ERROR..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (78764) simcom: rx line ch=0 len=5 : ERROR</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">V (79754) simcom: tx: 41 54 2b 43 4d 55 58 3d 30 0d 0a | AT+CMUX=0..</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (79754) simcom: tx scmd ch=0 len=11 : AT+CMUX=0</span></font></div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>Then it resets, as our firmware interprets that as a CMUX failure.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I did manage to type manual commands and get a 4G LTE connection established. It seems that the AT+CMUXSRVPORT commands are no longer support (necessary?). Also forcing a ’simcom setstate MuxStart’ at the appropriate time (just after " AT+CMUXSRVPORT=0”) gives us:</div><div><br class=""></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div><div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (713784) simcom: rx line ch=2 len=14 : CONNECT 115200</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (713784) simcom: PPP Connection is ready to start</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714754) simcom: State: Enter NetMode state</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714754) gsm-ppp: Initialising…</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: StatusCallBack: None</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: status_cb: Connected</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: our_ipaddr = 10.170.204.16</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: his_ipaddr = 10.64.64.64</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: netmask = 255.255.255.255</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">I (714944) gsm-ppp: our6_ipaddr = ::</span></font></div><div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (714944) events: Signal(network.interface.up)</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (714964) events: Signal(system.modem.gotip)</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (714964) netmanager: Saved DNS#0 212.9.0.135</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (714964) netmanager: Saved DNS#1 212.9.0.136</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (714984) events: Signal(network.modem.up)</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class="">D (715004) events: Signal(network.interface.change)</span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><div style="font-size: 12px;">OVMS# simcom muxtx 3 AT+CPSI?</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159254) simcom: mux tx: 41 54 2b 43 50 53 49 3f 0d 0a | AT+CPSI?..</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">D (1159254) simcom: tx mcmd ch=3 len=10 : AT+CPSI?</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159254) simcom: tx: f9 0d ff 15 41 54 2b 43 50 53 49 3f 0d 0a 1d f9 | ....AT+CPSI?....</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159384) simcom: rx: f9 0d ff b1 0d 0a 2b 43 50 53 49 3a 20 4c 54 45 | ......+CPSI: LTE</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159384) simcom: rx: 2c 4f 6e 6c 69 6e 65 2c 34 35 34 2d 30 30 2c 30 | ,Online,454-00,0</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159394) simcom: rx: 78 30 34 35 38 2c 32 37 32 39 37 36 36 39 2c 34 | x0458,27297669,4</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159394) simcom: rx: 34 36 2c 45 55 54 52 41 4e 2d 42 41 4e 44 37 2c | 46,EUTRAN-BAND7,</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159394) simcom: rx: 33 31 35 30 2c 35 2c 35 2c 2d 31 32 35 2c 2d 39 | 3150,5,5,-125,-9</div><div style="font-size: 12px;">V (1159394) simcom: rx: 35 33 2c 2d 36 32 39 2c 31 31 0d 0a c2 f9 f9 0d | 53,-629,11……</div><div style="font-size: 12px;"><br class=""></div><div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">OVMS# simcom muxtx 3 AT+CNSMOD?</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">V (1221734) simcom: mux tx: 41 54 2b 43 4e 53 4d 4f 44 3f 0d 0a | AT+CNSMOD?..</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">D (1221734) simcom: tx mcmd ch=3 len=12 : AT+CNSMOD?</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">V (1221734) simcom: tx: f9 0d ff 19 41 54 2b 43 4e 53 4d 4f 44 3f 0d 0a | ....AT+CNSMOD?..</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">V (1221734) simcom: tx: 14 f9 | ..</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">V (1221744) simcom: rx: f9 0d ff 2d 0d 0a 2b 43 4e 53 4d 4f 44 3a 20 30 | ...-..+CNSMOD: 0</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">V (1221744) simcom: rx: 2c 38 0d 0a 0d 0a 4f 4b 0d 0a 37 f9 | ,8....OK..7.</span></div></div></font></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div><img apple-inline="no" id="6B91FF45-6AF5-40FF-AD2C-99E34A944742" src="cid:6C6D2463-465A-4C1D-A72B-7D5F81B9E42C" class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>It is going to take some work to get this compatible (but doesn’t look too hard). Pricing is still higher than SIM5360, global LTE bands painful to support, and certification would be more hassle, but it seems at least worth trying to get it supported as an option.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards, Mark.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 22 Jun 2019, at 1:41 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@openvehicles.com" class="">mark@openvehicles.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>FYI: SIMCOM is now recommending SIM7600. That is closer in price to SIM5360 and is supposedly pin-for-pin compatible with SIM7100 and SIM5360. I will get one sample made and try it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Jun 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@openvehicles.com" class="">mark@openvehicles.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Craig,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Our modem design was loosely based on some suggestions from SIMCOM. Like:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><a href="https://simcom.ee/documents/SIM7100E/SIM7100_SIM5360_SIM800C%20Compatible%20Design_V1.01.pdf" class="">https://simcom.ee/documents/SIM7100E/SIM7100_SIM5360_SIM800C%20Compatible%20Design_V1.01.pdf</a></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I did get a SIM7100 module a year or two ago, and did some basic testing with it, but cost was just too high at that time. I will ask again to see where we are today. A quick check on aliexpress shows the SIM7100E at US$50 per module, and SIM5360E at US$20, in quantities of 1.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My main concern is software support. On paper, the SIM7100 looks compatible, and the AT commands very close. But the same was true of the SIM7000 I tried, and that was a mess - it seems the first firmware didn’t even support the MUX mode we rely on.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Given all the passive components required, it is probably easiest to just use a SIM5360 board, unsolder the modem module and replace it, then add / move that one antenna. To get my china contacts to make 3 one off boards is probably about the same price. In general, it is easy to get 1 or 1,000, but quantities in between are the issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Jun 2019, at 12:49 AM, Craig Leres <<a href="mailto:leres@xse.com" class="">leres@xse.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 2018-06-12 15:26, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Very easy to make. Our current modem circuit board layout actually supports both the SIM5360 (3G) and SIM7100 (4G) SIMCOM modules; we can simply drop in the appropriate module during production, and build with either 3G or 4G. If there is demand, we can satisfy within weeks<br class=""></blockquote>What is my easiest path to getting a small quantity of ovms modem cards with SIM7100A modems? I probably only need 3, should I just buy some SIM5360A ovms boards and swap the simcom modules? And I guess move or add an antenna connector? I've attached a png version of a image from the message I'm replying to. It shows the SIM5360A using ANT1 and ANT3 while the SIM7100E uses ANT1 and ANT2 (and I see now the silkscreen documents this difference).<br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Craig<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class=""><span id="cid:19F431D4-0505-426D-93BE-9B0D85138A49" class=""><PastedGraphic-2.png></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.openvehicles.com" class="">OvmsDev@lists.openvehicles.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.openvehicles.com/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev" class="">http://lists.openvehicles.com/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.openvehicles.com" class="">OvmsDev@lists.openvehicles.com</a><br class="">http://lists.openvehicles.com/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>