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You don't need a resistor that small (680 Ohms) for a relay shield.
680 Ohms was chosen to provide enough current for the LED. Use
something like 100 K.<br>
<br>
Other than that, your wiring looks OK.<br>
<br>
Btw, you don't need to take +12V from the module. As the module
shares GND with the vehicle, you can use whatever +12V source is
available near the relay shield.<br>
<br>
For my test of the backport to V2 I used a standard RC LiPo battery
to provide the 12V:<br>
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<img src="cid:part1.1D79A6D6.80C334B9@expeedo.de" alt=""><br>
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<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Michael, the following wiring is ok if if i
want to use the egpio8 port to switch the brake lamp?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Not now, I waiting for parts to finish it. I
want to use a relay shield.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael Balzer <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I've added the Twizy modification
documentation to the user guide:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16JrXR7rybp-18DrEoeh1rg6GqQT_jVBvhaXh2oEWRHw/edit#heading=h.xc9d76fq2q79"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/16JrXR7rybp-18DrEoeh1rg6GqQT_jVBvhaXh2oEWRHw/edit#heading=h.xc9d76fq2q79</a><br>
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Tamás, have you done the modification for the i-MiEV
yet?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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27.04.19 um 17:25 schrieb Michael Balzer:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Tamás,<br>
<br>
I've pushed an optimization for the speed processing,
please note you now need to call
CalculateAcceleration() after your regular speed
update. This is necessary as the speed needs to be fed
into the acceleration calculation on every update, not
just changes.<br>
<br>
I've also just added the relay to my Twizy as planned,
it works nicely. Just a little caveat: as Julien
foretold, the SERV light turns on while the regen
brake light is active. So somehow the Twizy in fact
does monitor the brake light current and thus
recognizes the hack. Doesn't matter too much to me,
I'll use the SERV light as my regen braking indicator
;-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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22.04.19 um 21:41 schrieb Michael Balzer:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Here's a simple web plugin to
monitor acceleration levels and regen brake signal
generation:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/dev/regenmon.htm"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/dev/regenmon.htm</a><br>
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22.04.19 um 19:24 schrieb Tamás Kovács:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Now I tested a little bit.
Works fine, bright the led when
recuperating.
<div>But I look at the code and I not
understand:</div>
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<div>accel = (speed - m_accel_refspeed) /
(now - m_accel_reftime) * 1000;
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// smooth out road bumps & gear box
backlash:
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accel =
(StdMetrics.ms_v_pos_acceleration->AsFloat()
* m_accel_smoothing + accel) /
(m_accel_smoothing + 1);</div>
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<div>Use same variable, I think the first is
unnecessary now.<br>
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Beg your pardon…?<br>
<br>
The first line calculates the momentary
acceleration, the second sends that value through a
standard lowpass filter.<br>
<br>
If you mean it could be written in one line, you're
right, but I prefer readability.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 22., H, 11:13):<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Pushed:<br>
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<br>
<tt>- Vehicle framework: regenerative
braking signal generation</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> New config:</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> vehicle [accel.smoothing] =
2.0 Acceleration smoothing factor
(samples, 0 = none)</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> vehicle [brakelight.enable] =
no Regen brake light enable</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> vehicle [brakelight.port] =
1 … MAX7317 output port number (1,
3…9, default 1 = SW_12V)</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> vehicle [brakelight.on] =
1.3 … activation threshold
(deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> vehicle [brakelight.off] =
0.7 … deactivation threshold
(deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> New metrics:</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> v.p.acceleration =
acceleration/deceleration in m/s² derived
from v.p.speed</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt> v.e.regenbrake =
regenerative brake light state</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt><tt>- Twizy web UI: regenerative
braking signal configuration</tt><tt><br>
</tt><br>
<br>
I've tested this using an LED on EGPIO_8,
I'll do & document the Twizy hardware
modification next weekend (if I receive my
order in time…).<br>
<br>
@Tamás: to add the UI to the Mitsubishi
code:<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127</a><br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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22.04.19 um 04:12 schrieb Mark
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<div>Yes, EGPIO1 had to be used for SN65
control so is not available for general
use.</div>
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Max7317 has 10 outputs (P0 .. P9):
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<li>P0 MDM EN (controls modem power)</li>
<li>P1 SW CTL (to BTS452 for EXT 12v
power control)</li>
<li>P2 EGPIO1 (SN65 transceiver power
saving control)</li>
<li>P3 EGPIO2 available for general
use</li>
<li>P4 EGPIO3 available for general
use</li>
<li>P5 EGPIO4 available for general
use</li>
<li>P6 EGPIO5 available for general
use</li>
<li>P7 EGPIO6 available for general
use</li>
<li>P8 EGPIO<b>7</b> available for
general use</li>
<li>P9 EGPIO<b>8</b> available for
general use</li>
</ul>
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<div>Regards, Mark</div>
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<div>On 22 Apr 2019, at 3:36 AM,
Michael Balzer <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Mark,<br>
<br>
btw: is EGPIO_1 not free for
general use? The esp32can SN65
seems to be controlled by that
line.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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21.04.19 um 15:01 schrieb Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> If
changing vehicle.{h, cpp}
framework, I suggest leaving a
hook in to allow the vehicle
module to override /
supplement this. In
particular, the brake light
may be controllable via can
message on some vehicles.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You can look at the
ext12v circuit to see how to
control this.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The ext12v system is a
switchable 12v line already
wired up and available on
DA26 expansion. Would be
trivial to put an external
relay on that to switch
brake lights.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards, Mark.<br>
<div><br>
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1:32 AM, Tamás Kovács
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<div dir="ltr"><span
style="font-family:monospace">JP1 pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680 Ohms ]
---+--- [ LED
] ----- pin 28
(GND)</span><br
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<span
style="font-family:monospace"> </span><span
style="font-family:monospace"> |</span><br
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<span
style="font-family:monospace"> </span><span
style="font-family:monospace"> pin 12 (EGPIO_8)</span><br>
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<div><span
style="font-family:monospace">I
can connect a
680Ohm
resistor first
end to pin1,
a </span><font
face="monospace">second end to pin12, and the led positive side to pin12
and negative
to pin28(gnd).
Now I have
only 470ohm
resistor at
home, I tested
now with a 4V
li-ion battery
and my red led
power is 4mA.
I can use this
(470Ohm)
resistor or
buy a 680Ohm.</font></div>
<div><font
face="monospace">Tomorrow I
remove the
OVMS module
from my car,
and create
some test, if
the resistor
(470Ohm) is
OK. </font></div>
<div><font
face="monospace">I
used this
calculator for
led series
resistor
calculation (I
used a red
Led): </font><a
href="http://ledcalc.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://ledcalc.com</a></div>
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2019. ápr. 20.,
Szo, 11:16):<br>
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Be aware the
MAX71317 outputs
are open drain,
so you need a
pull up resistor
to e.g. +3.3.
According to the
data sheet, the
current should
stay below 6 mA.<br>
<br>
I've just done a
quick test
wiring like
this:<br>
<br>
<tt>JP1 pin 1
(+3.3) ----- [
680 Ohms ]
---+--- [ LED
] ----- pin 28
(GND)<br>
|<br>
pin 12 (EGPIO_8)<br>
</tt><br>
Works as
expected.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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19.04.19 um
09:59 schrieb
Michael
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Sure.<br>
<br>
You need to
route an EGPIO
line to the
DA26 port. For
a first test
you can add a
simple jumper
on expansion
port pins
10/12 to route
EGPIO_8 to
GEP_7 (= pin
21 on DA26).<br>
<br>
You should
then be able
to use the
"egpio"
command to
test your LED.
EGPIO_1 … _8
labels
correspond to
MAX7317 ports
2 … 9, so to
control
EGPIO_8, do:<br>
<blockquote><tt>OVMS#
egpio output 9
1 # EGPIO_8
on</tt><br>
<tt><tt>OVMS#
</tt> egpio
output 9 0 #
EGPIO_8 off</tt><br>
</blockquote>
(correct me if
I'm wrong,
Mark)<br>
<br>
I wasn't aware
there are
other cars in
need of
something like
this. I'll
think about
adding the
logic as an
option to the
vehicle
framework, but
I can send you
some patch to
test this on
your
i-MiEV/clone
first.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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19.04.19 um
09:24 schrieb
Tamás Kovács:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I
can add for
testing a
simple led
(with
resistor) ,
same as
SimpleConsole
(twizy OVMS
V2), to show
car is
recuperating,
connected to
DA26 external
expansion
port?</div>
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As the
Mitsubishi
code also
reads battery
current/power
level from
CAN, it would
be trivial to
add the same
logic there.<br>
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06:52 schrieb
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<div dir="ltr">The
Trio
(Mitsubishi
I-Miev and
clones) does
not activate
the brake
light on
recuperation
on 2105 and
older models,
if this is
work is very
impressive.</div>
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Mark,<br>
<br>
that looks
very good. Not
sure about
general
demand, but I
think we
should have
this to enable
simple custom
hardware I/O
extensions.<br>
<br>
For the Twizy,
I was thinking
about adding
logic to
control the
brake light
from the
module. The
Twizy does not
activate the
brake light on
recuperation,
as that's
normally
(untuned) not
very strong.
But a tuned
Twizy allows
one pedal
driving, so
needs this.<br>
<br>
Looking at our
case I also
think one
custom
extension
board should
fit on top of
the modem.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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02:36 schrieb
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It seems the
attachments
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up, so
attaching
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good to me,
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at 12:05 PM,
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A kit of 5
PCBs + SIP
edge
connectors +
mounting
hardware,
unsoldered,
would be about
US$15 +
shipping.
About
US$3/board
set. With
shipping I
don’t think
this is worth
doing with
less than 3 or
5 boards per
kit.
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<div>Would
this be
useful?</div>
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<div>Regards,
Mark.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">This
is the closest
we have today:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">That
is a bare
modem board,
with just the
sip
connectors.
The prototype
above is a
K-line
transceiver.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">I
think it would
be trivial,
and cheap, to
make up what
you show.
Perhaps just
solder ready
pads at 0.1”
pitch, then
the side sip
connectors
wired to the
first row of
pads at each
edge. Perhaps
5 PCBs in a
kit, with sip
edge
connectors,
unsoldered, in
a simple
plastic bag.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Does
that sound
like something
useful? If so,
I can ask the
China guys for
some idea of
pricing. If it
is just the
unsoldered
pcbs + parts,
I don’t think
it will be
expensive.</div>
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</div>
<div dir="ltr">Regards,
Mark</div>
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at 4:38 PM,
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Mark,<br>
<br>
do you know of
some kind of
prototyping
board
available that
fits to our
piggy back
expansion
layout?<br>
<br>
Something like
this: <a
href="https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html</a><br>
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06:48 schrieb
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<div>If you
have work to
do on this
DA26 expansion
ports, this is
pretty cool
and well
built:</div>
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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