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<p>On the 2016 Leaf the Climate Control command is sent on the 'CAR'
CAN bus which is connected to on of the exernal can busses. I'm
not sure if there is a task, or if there are other usages of the
CAN2 bus in the Leaf implementation (there weren't last time I
looked closely but I haven't been able to keep up with the
improvements others have made). The Climate Control does do task
or timer related stuff because it sends the CAN message several
times over a period of a second or two.<br>
</p>
<p>This is distinct from the earlier Leafs where climate control is
on the EV can bus connected to the internal CAN bus.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/05/19 2:57 PM, Greg D. wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:47e335be-220d-9853-7cb9-9306b822e369@gmail.com">
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Hi Stein,<br>
<br>
Interesting. Does the "start climate control" command start a new
process/task on OVMS, or otherwise cause the CAN2 bus to be
"opened" at the time of the command? If so, that would be
consistent with what I see. <br>
<br>
With the OBD2ECU translator, if I have an OBDII device (e.g.
head-up display) running first, and then start the OBD2ECU task,
the bus will hang every time. If I start the task first, then
power up the OBDII device, all will be fine. There seems to be a
collision between the task starting and the data coming in that
triggers the bus hang.<br>
<br>
I have a pair of scripts to turn on and turn off the Ext12v supply
to the OBDII device when the car is turned on or off,
respectively. That's just to manage the OBDII device as if it
were in an ICE vehicle. What I do now, as a workaround for the
bus hang, is to stop and restart the OBD2ECU task before turning
on the ext12v supply in the car turn-on script. That seems to
work.<br>
<br>
Not sure how that might help your problem (since you can't turn
off the car's data stream), but at least it would confirm that
we're looking at the same bug. <br>
<br>
Greg<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">ovms wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:2ed9270d-368d-4798-aabc-8510ee5aa911@DISKSTATION2">
<div>I just discovered something. Since the temperature has been
pretty stable the last month (not cold, and not warm) I have
not used the climate control function in OVMS.</div>
<div>With the latest firmware, CAN2 can recieve data for many
days, until I trigger the "start climate control" command.
Then CAN2 stops receiving. (and "possible theft" message
occurs). Car is 2016 Leaf. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Stein Arne Sordal</div>
<div class="syno-mc-signature"> </div>
<div> </div>
<div class="">
<div>On 2019-04-01 14:56, Mark Webb-Johnson <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><mark@webb-johnson.net></a>
wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="syno-mc-blockquote" style="padding-left:
5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #c8d2dc 2px solid;">So
this is with CAN2 not working?
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Err flags are 0x80001080. For MCP2515 that is:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">
<ul class="MailOutline">
<li class="">(intstat << 24) |</li>
<li class="">(errflag << 16) |</li>
<li class="">intflag</li>
</ul>
</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">So intstat = 0x80, errflag = 0x00, intflag =
0x1080.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">The 0x10.. in intflag indicates that this just
ran:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border:
none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;"> // clear error
& wakeup interrupts:</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;"> if (intstat
& 0b11100000)</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;"> {</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;">
m_status.error_flags |= 0x1000;</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;">
m_spibus->spi_cmd(m_spi, buf, 0, 4,
CMD_BITMODIFY, 0x2c, intstat & 0b11100000,
0x00);</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span style="font-family: 'Andale Mono';"><span
class="" style="font-size: 14px;"> }</span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div> </div>
<div>The instat=0x80 indicates "MERRF: Message Error
Interrupt Flag bit”. So that is a bus error, but the
errflag=0x00 so there are no indicated issues with
either the 96 or 128 successive errors hit. The
documentation (mcp2515 spec sheet) for this says:</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border:
none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="">
<div>7.4 Message Error Interrupt<br class="">
<br class="">
When an error occurs during the transmission
or reception of a message, the message error
flag (CANINTF.MERRF) will be set and, if
the CANINTE.MERRE bit is set, an interrupt will be
gener- ated on the INT pin. This is intended to be
used to facilitate baud rate determination when used
in conjunction with Listen-only mode.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div> </div>
<div>I can’t see anything obviously wrong with that. Not
sure how to proceed. Perhaps we need a command to dump
all the MCP2515 registers? We could at least then see
the current state of the chip with all the gory details.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards, Mark.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<blockquote class="">
<div class="">On 1 Apr 2019, at 3:49 PM, ovms <<a
href="mailto:ovms@topphemmelig.no" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ovms@topphemmelig.no</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="">Looks the same, see attachment.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">-Stein Arne-</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="syno-mc-signature"> </div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">
<div class="">On 2019-04-01 09:38, Mark
Webb-Johnson <<a
href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<div>
<blockquote class="syno-mc-blockquote"
style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;
border-left: #c8d2dc 2px solid;">This is the
thread from last summer talking about CAN bus
lock-ups.
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">I’m guessing this is still
happening for Leaf? Since the changes made
below (back then), I haven’t seen it in my
car.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Next time this happens to you
guys (can2 stopped), can you get a ‘can can2
status’, wait 30 seconds, and repeat. Then
send it here for us to look at.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote class="">
<div class="">On 7 Jul 2018, at 10:37
PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a
href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="" style="word-wrap:
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; line-break:
after-white-space;">I’m trying to
recreate this with my
three-can-buses-connected DB9
plugged in. Transmitting on CAN1
should make it appear on CAN2 and
CAN3.
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Here is what I see:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin:
0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding:
0px;">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can1 start active
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Can
bus can1 started in mode
active at speed 1000000bps</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can2 start active
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Can
bus can2 started in mode
active at speed 1000000bps</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
test cantx can1 25000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Testing
25000 frames on can1</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Transmitted
25000 frames in 6.466209s
= 258us/frame</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"> </span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can1 status</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">CAN:
can1</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Mode:
Active</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Speed:
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Interrupts:
24771</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
pkt:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
ovrflw:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
pkt:
24880</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
delays:
24703</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
ovrflw:
109</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Err
flags: 0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can2 status</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"> </span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">CAN:
can2</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Mode:
Active</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Speed:
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Interrupts:
19084</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
pkt:
24770</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
ovrflw:
1</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
pkt:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
delays:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
ovrflw:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Err
flags: 0x2040</span></span></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Note the err flags
0x2040 on CAN2, but the bus
remains up and working fine.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Repeating the test
gives us:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin:
0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding:
0px;">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
test cantx can1 25000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Testing
25000 frames on can1</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Transmitted
25000 frames in
6.479670s = 259us/frame</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"> </span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can1 status</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">CAN:
can1</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Mode:
Active</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Speed:
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Interrupts:
49546</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
pkt:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
ovrflw:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
pkt:
49771</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
delays:
49417</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
ovrflw:
207</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Err
flags: 0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"> </span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
can can2 status</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">CAN:
can2</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Mode:
Active</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Speed:
1000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Interrupts:
38288</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
pkt:
49545</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Rx
ovrflw:
3</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
pkt:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
delays:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
err:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Tx
ovrflw:
0</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">Err
flags: 0x2040</span></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">Looking at the
mcp2515 code, it seems that Err
flags are only stored "if
(intstat & 0b10100000)”.
That is "ERRF 0x80 = message
tx/rx error” or "ERRIF 0x20 =
overflow / error state change”.
It is also set to "(intstat
& 0b10100000) << 8 |
errflag”, so doesn’t show all
the error statuses. It is hard
to rely on that for other
errors/status on lock-up. Given
that error_flags is a uint32_t,
I think we can store more in it
to allow for better diagnosis.</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">I changed the
mcp2515 driver to always set
error_flags, on each interrupt
handled (except spurious
interrupts with no flags found),
as follows:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin:
0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding:
0px;">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family: 'Andale
Mono';"><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">SSSSSSSSFFFFFFFF***EB01TLLLLLLLL</span></span></div>
<div class="">
<ul class="MailOutline">
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';
font-size: 14px;">SSSSSSSS
= intstat</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">FFFFFFFF =
errflag</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">B = RXB0 or RXB1
overflow flags cleared</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">0 = RXB0
overflowed</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">1 = RXB1
overflowed</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">T = TX buffer
has become available</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">E = Error/WakeUp
flags were cleared</span></li>
<li class=""><span class=""
style="font-size: 14px;
font-family: 'Andale
Mono';">LLLLLLLL =
intflag</span></li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">I did find a problem
on line 300: if (intstat &
0b10100000). It think that
should be 0b11100000 (to also
pickup the RXB0 overflow), and
removed
the m_status.rxbuf_overflow++
from RXB0 overflow (as it is not
really an overflow - as RXB1 got
the data).</div>
<div class=""> </div>
<div class="">With those changes
made, I get:</div>
<div class=""> </div>
</div>
<blockquote class="" style="margin:
0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding:
0px;">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;">OVMS#
test cantx can1 25000<br
class="">
Testing 25000 frames on
can1<br class="">
Transmitted 25000 frames
in 6.389849s =
255us/frame</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"><br
class="">
OVMS# can can1 status<br
class="">
CAN: can1<br
class="">
Mode: Active<br
class="">
Speed: 1000000<br
class="">
Interrupts:
24777<br class="">
Rx pkt:
0<br class="">
Rx err:
0<br class="">
Rx ovrflw:
0<br class="">
Tx pkt:
24884<br class="">
Tx delays:
24739<br class="">
Tx err:
0<br class="">
Tx ovrflw:
116<br class="">
Err flags: 0x00000000</span></span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""
style="font-family:
'Andale Mono';"><span
class=""
style="font-size: 14px;"><br
class="">
OVMS# can can2 status<br
class="">
CAN: can2<br
class="">
Mode: Active<br
class="">
Speed: 1000000<br
class="">
Interrupts:
18935<br class="">
Rx pkt:
24777<br class="">
Rx err:
0<br class="">
Rx ovrflw:
0<br class="">
Tx pkt:
0<br class="">
Tx delays:
0<br class="">
Tx err:
0<br class="">
Tx ovrflw:
0<br class="">
Err flags: 0x01000001</span></span></div>
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<div class="">I don’t think I’ve
fixed anything (apart from that
minor issue with RXB0 overflow
diagnostics), but hopefully the
new error_flags display should
help finding out what is causing
this lockup. Hopefully I haven’t
broken anything.</div>
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<div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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<blockquote class="">
<div class="">On 7 Jul 2018,
at 10:42 AM, Tom Parker <<a
href="mailto:tom@carrott.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">tom@carrott.org</a>>
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<div class="">On 07/07/18
00:05, Mark Webb-Johnson
wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="">Err
flags 0x2040. The 0x20
part is the error
interrupt. The 0x40 part
is "RX0OVR: Receive
Buffer 0 Overflow Flag
bit”.<br class="">
<br class="">
Where the number on ‘can
can2 status’ moving at
all? Or completely
stuck?</blockquote>
<br class="">
None of the can can2
status numbers change when
the can bus is broken.
After power cycling it
they move.<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote class="">Seems
different than the fault
Greg and I are seeing.
This one likely to be
interrupt flag, or
buffer overflow, not
being cleared correctly.
I’m guessing the
overflow because that
just doesn’t seem
correct in
mcp2515::RxCallback().
I’ll focus on that and
have a look.</blockquote>
<br class="">
I just checked the car
again and it stopped with
Rx ovrflw number only
1281, half what it got to
last time.<br class="">
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