<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Some more prototype pictures. There is about 6.5m space between the top of the board and standard case; that is tight, but just about ok for normal components.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">All looks ok, and we are proceeding like this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="no" id="6323369D-903C-4A9C-9E65-05859C7CBC37" src="cid:B3AB4336-829A-440D-AE14-10299298DE2C" class=""></div><div class=""><img apple-inline="no" id="BB5E5038-B3B1-4320-B4BD-1D5A5A7C0C4B" src="cid:23D54F1F-6B00-4BEB-BDD2-DE66D55F148E" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Apr 2019, at 8:57 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" class="">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Here are the prototype prototypes. They seem fine to me. Just some minor adjustments and we will go with these. Three in a batch, unsoldered, with pin headers.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m still waiting for news on the certification; hopefully know within the next few days. Once we know what is going on with that, we can confirm the next production batch and include these in with that (to keep costs as low as possible).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:EB434C5F-6D22-4B64-9465-001DD6CD6E78@openvpn"><IMG_20190421_141816_resized_20190421_022448100.jpeg></span><span id="cid:74CC74CF-764E-4443-9B36-8E1925E46F8C@openvpn"><IMG_20190421_141807_resized_20190421_022448350.jpeg></span></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19 Apr 2019, at 5:08 AM, Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    that looks very good. Not sure about general demand, but I think we
    should have this to enable simple custom hardware I/O extensions.<br class="">
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    For the Twizy, I was thinking about adding logic to control the
    brake light from the module. The Twizy does not activate the brake
    light on recuperation, as that's normally (untuned) not very strong.
    But a tuned Twizy allows one pedal driving, so needs this.<br class="">
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    Looking at our case I also think one custom extension board should
    fit on top of the modem.<br class="">
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    Michael<br class="">
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            <div class="">On 17 Apr 2019, at 10:07 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson
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                      can make in sets of three PCBs, to keep prices
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                  On 8 Apr 2019, at 12:05 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
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                    A kit of 5 PCBs + SIP edge connectors + mounting
                    hardware, unsoldered, would be about US$15 +
                    shipping. About US$3/board set. With shipping I
                    don’t think this is worth doing with less than 3 or
                    5 boards per kit.
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                                closest we have today:</div>
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                                modem board, with just the sip
                                connectors. The prototype above is a
                                K-line transceiver.</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">I think it would
                                be trivial, and cheap, to make up what
                                you show. Perhaps just solder ready pads
                                at 0.1” pitch, then the side sip
                                connectors wired to the first row of
                                pads at each edge. Perhaps 5 PCBs in a
                                kit, with sip edge connectors,
                                unsoldered, in a simple plastic bag.</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">Does that sound
                                like something useful? If so, I can ask
                                the China guys for some idea of pricing.
                                If it is just the unsoldered pcbs +
                                parts, I don’t think it will be
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                                On 7 Apr 2019, at 4:38 PM, Michael
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                                  do you know of some kind of
                                  prototyping board available that fits
                                  to our piggy back expansion layout?<br class="">
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                                  Something like this: <a href="https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html</a><br class="">
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                                      on this DA26 expansion ports, this
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