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    Here's a simple web plugin to monitor acceleration levels and regen
    brake signal generation:<br>
    <br>
    <a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/dev/regenmon.htm">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/dev/regenmon.htm</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.04.19 um 19:24 schrieb Tamás
      Kovács:<br>
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cite="mid:CAGpaXUtUL2kN+npTD2rL6+G=Y==UU31utYDRfu5KnXGJEHdO-Q@mail.gmail.com">
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          <div dir="ltr">Now I tested a little bit. Works fine, bright
            the led when recuperating. 
            <div>But I look at the code and I not understand:</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>accel = (speed - m_accel_refspeed) / (now -
              m_accel_reftime) * 1000;
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                gmail-tab-size"
style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe
                UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color
                Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI
                Symbol";font-size:14px">
              </table>
               // smooth out road bumps & gear box backlash:
              <table class="gmail-diff-table gmail-js-diff-table
                gmail-tab-size"
style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe
                UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color
                Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI
                Symbol";font-size:14px">
              </table>
              accel = (StdMetrics.ms_v_pos_acceleration->AsFloat() *
              m_accel_smoothing + accel) / (m_accel_smoothing + 1);</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Use same variable, I think the first is unnecessary
              now.<br>
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                gmail-tab-size"
style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe
                UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color
                Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI
                Symbol";font-size:14px">
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    Beg your pardon…?<br>
    <br>
    The first line calculates the momentary acceleration, the second
    sends that value through a standard lowpass filter.<br>
    <br>
    If you mean it could be written in one line, you're right, but I
    prefer readability.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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cite="mid:CAGpaXUtUL2kN+npTD2rL6+G=Y==UU31utYDRfu5KnXGJEHdO-Q@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael Balzer <<a
            href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
          ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 22., H, 11:13):<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Pushed:<br>
            <br>
            <a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/commit/b44d466580b6961ada5ae42500c3fea68cab0f8a"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/commit/b44d466580b6961ada5ae42500c3fea68cab0f8a</a><br>
            <br>
            <tt>- Vehicle framework: regenerative braking signal
              generation</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>  New config:</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    vehicle [accel.smoothing] = 2.0    
              Acceleration smoothing factor (samples, 0 = none)</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.enable] = no    Regen brake
              light enable</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.port] = 1       … MAX7317
              output port number (1, 3…9, default 1 = SW_12V)</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.on] = 1.3       …
              activation threshold (deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.off] = 0.7      …
              deactivation threshold (deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>  New metrics:</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    v.p.acceleration    = acceleration/deceleration
              in m/s² derived from v.p.speed</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>    v.e.regenbrake      = regenerative brake light
              state</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt><br>
            </tt><tt>- Twizy web UI: regenerative braking signal
              configuration</tt><tt><br>
            </tt><br>
            <br>
            I've tested this using an LED on EGPIO_8, I'll do &
            document the Twizy hardware modification next weekend (if I
            receive my order in time…).<br>
            <br>
            @Tamás: to add the UI to the Mitsubishi code:<br>
            <br>
            <a
href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127</a><br>
            <br>
            Regards,<br>
            Michael<br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098moz-cite-prefix">Am
              22.04.19 um 04:12 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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              <div>Yes, EGPIO1 had to be used for SN65 control so is not
                available for general use.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              Max7317 has 10 outputs (P0 .. P9):
              <div><br>
              </div>
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                <ul class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098MailOutline">
                  <li>P0 MDM EN (controls modem power)</li>
                  <li>P1 SW CTL (to BTS452 for EXT 12v power control)</li>
                  <li>P2 EGPIO1 (SN65 transceiver power saving control)</li>
                  <li>P3 EGPIO2 available for general use</li>
                  <li>P4 EGPIO3 available for general use</li>
                  <li>P5 EGPIO4 available for general use</li>
                  <li>P6 EGPIO5 available for general use</li>
                  <li>P7 EGPIO6 available for general use</li>
                  <li>P8 EGPIO<b>7</b> available for general use</li>
                  <li>P9 EGPIO<b>8</b> available for general use</li>
                </ul>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Regards, Mark</div>
                <div><br>
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                    <div>On 22 Apr 2019, at 3:36 AM, Michael Balzer <<a
                        href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Mark,<br>
                        <br>
                        btw: is EGPIO_1 not free for general use? The
                        esp32can SN65 seems to be controlled by that
                        line.<br>
                        <br>
                        Regards,<br>
                        Michael<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <div
                          class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098moz-cite-prefix">Am
                          21.04.19 um 15:01 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite"> If changing vehicle.{h,
                          cpp} framework, I suggest leaving a hook in to
                          allow the vehicle module to override /
                          supplement this. In particular, the brake
                          light may be controllable via can message on
                          some vehicles.
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>You can look at the ext12v circuit to see
                            how to control this.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>The ext12v system is a switchable 12v
                            line already wired up and available on DA26
                            expansion. Would be trivial to put an
                            external relay on that to switch brake
                            lights.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Regards, Mark.<br>
                            <div><br>
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                                <div>On 21 Apr 2019, at 1:32 AM, Tamás
                                  Kovács <<a
                                    href="mailto:kommykt@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">kommykt@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:</div>
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                                      <div dir="ltr"><span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">JP1
                                          pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680 Ohms
                                          ] ---+--- [ LED ] ----- pin 28
                                          (GND)</span><br
                                          style="font-family:monospace">
                                        <span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">                              </span><span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">        
                                          |</span><br
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                                        <span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">                              </span><span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">     
                                          pin 12 (EGPIO_8)</span><br>
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                                      <div><span
                                          style="font-family:monospace">I
                                          can connect a 680Ohm resistor
                                          first end to pin1, a </span><font
                                          face="monospace">second end to
                                          pin12, and the led positive
                                          side to pin12 and negative to
                                          pin28(gnd). Now I have only
                                          470ohm resistor at home, I
                                          tested now with a 4V li-ion
                                          battery and my red led power
                                          is 4mA. I can use this
                                          (470Ohm) resistor or buy a
                                          680Ohm.</font></div>
                                      <div><font face="monospace">Tomorrow I
                                          remove the OVMS module from my
                                          car, and create some test, if
                                          the resistor (470Ohm) is OK. </font></div>
                                      <div><font face="monospace">I used
                                          this calculator for led series
                                          resistor calculation (I used a
                                          red Led): </font><a
                                          href="http://ledcalc.com/"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://ledcalc.com</a></div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                      Balzer <<a
                                        href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                      ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 20.,
                                      Szo, 11:16):<br>
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                                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Be aware
                                        the MAX71317 outputs are open
                                        drain, so you need a pull up
                                        resistor to e.g. +3.3. According
                                        to the data sheet, the current
                                        should stay below 6 mA.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I've just done a quick test
                                        wiring like this:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <tt>JP1 pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680
                                          Ohms ] ---+--- [ LED ] -----
                                          pin 28 (GND)<br>
                                       |<br>
                                    pin 12 (EGPIO_8)<br>
                                        </tt><br>
                                        Works as expected.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Regards,<br>
                                        Michael<br>
                                        <br>
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class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                          19.04.19 um 09:59 schrieb
                                          Michael Balzer:<br>
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                                        <blockquote type="cite"> Sure.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          You need to route an EGPIO
                                          line to the DA26 port. For a
                                          first test you can add a
                                          simple jumper on expansion
                                          port pins 10/12 to route
                                          EGPIO_8 to GEP_7 (= pin 21 on
                                          DA26).<br>
                                          <br>
                                          You should then be able to use
                                          the "egpio" command to test
                                          your LED. EGPIO_1 … _8 labels
                                          correspond to MAX7317 ports 2
                                          … 9, so to control EGPIO_8,
                                          do:<br>
                                          <blockquote><tt>OVMS# egpio
                                              output 9 1  # EGPIO_8 on</tt><br>
                                            <tt><tt>OVMS# </tt> egpio
                                              output 9 0  # EGPIO_8 off</tt><br>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          (correct me if I'm wrong,
                                          Mark)<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I wasn't aware there are other
                                          cars in need of something like
                                          this. I'll think about adding
                                          the logic as an option to the
                                          vehicle framework, but I can
                                          send you some patch to test
                                          this on your i-MiEV/clone
                                          first.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Regards,<br>
                                          Michael<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div
class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                            19.04.19 um 09:24 schrieb
                                            Tamás Kovács:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">I can add for
                                              testing a simple led (with
                                              resistor) , same as
                                              SimpleConsole (twizy OVMS
                                              V2), to show car is
                                              recuperating, connected to
                                              DA26 external expansion
                                              port?</div>
                                            <br>
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                                                class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                                Balzer <<a
                                                  href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                                ezt írta (időpont: 2019.
                                                ápr. 19., P, 9:17):<br>
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                                                  As the Mitsubishi code
                                                  also reads battery
                                                  current/power level
                                                  from CAN, it would be
                                                  trivial to add the
                                                  same logic there.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div
class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                                    19.04.19 um 06:52
                                                    schrieb Tamás
                                                    Kovács:<br>
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                                                      <div dir="ltr">The
                                                        Trio (Mitsubishi
                                                        I-Miev and
                                                        clones) does not
                                                        activate the
                                                        brake light on
                                                        recuperation on
                                                        2105 and older
                                                        models, if this
                                                        is work is very
                                                        impressive.</div>
                                                    </div>
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                                                        class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                                        Balzer <<a
                                                          href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> ezt
                                                        írta (időpont:
                                                        2019. ápr. 18.,
                                                        Cs, 23:08):<br>
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                                                          Mark,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          that looks
                                                          very good. Not
                                                          sure about
                                                          general
                                                          demand, but I
                                                          think we
                                                          should have
                                                          this to enable
                                                          simple custom
                                                          hardware I/O
                                                          extensions.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          For the Twizy,
                                                          I was thinking
                                                          about adding
                                                          logic to
                                                          control the
                                                          brake light
                                                          from the
                                                          module. The
                                                          Twizy does not
                                                          activate the
                                                          brake light on
                                                          recuperation,
                                                          as that's
                                                          normally
                                                          (untuned) not
                                                          very strong.
                                                          But a tuned
                                                          Twizy allows
                                                          one pedal
                                                          driving, so
                                                          needs this.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Looking at our
                                                          case I also
                                                          think one
                                                          custom
                                                          extension
                                                          board should
                                                          fit on top of
                                                          the modem.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regards,<br>
                                                          Michael<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
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                                                          18.04.19 um
                                                          02:36 schrieb
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                                                          Webb-Johnson:<br>
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                                                          It seems the
                                                          attachments
                                                          were messed
                                                          up, so
                                                          attaching
                                                          again…
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                                                          <div>Regards,
                                                          Mark.</div>
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                                                          <div>On 17 Apr
                                                          2019, at 10:07
                                                          PM, Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑"><br>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">Design layout. Looks
                                                          good to me,
                                                          but open to
                                                          suggestions...</blockquote>
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id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote"
style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑"><br>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">We can make in sets of
                                                          three PCBs, to
                                                          keep prices
                                                          down.</blockquote>
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id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote"
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">Regards, Mark<br>
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                                                          On 8 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 12:05 PM,
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          A kit of 5
                                                          PCBs + SIP
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors +
                                                          mounting
                                                          hardware,
                                                          unsoldered,
                                                          would be about
                                                          US$15 +
                                                          shipping.
                                                          About
                                                          US$3/board
                                                          set. With
                                                          shipping I
                                                          don’t think
                                                          this is worth
                                                          doing with
                                                          less than 3 or
                                                          5 boards per
                                                          kit.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Would
                                                          this be
                                                          useful?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards,
                                                          Mark.<br>
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                                                          <div>On 7 Apr
                                                          2019, at 9:08
                                                          PM, Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">This
                                                          is the closest
                                                          we have today:</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
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id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159cid:FB5D7C10-7B69-4ECC-98AF-C500BB6C39A3"><image1.jpeg></span></div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">That
                                                          is a bare
                                                          modem board,
                                                          with just the
                                                          sip
                                                          connectors.
                                                          The prototype
                                                          above is a
                                                          K-line
                                                          transceiver.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          think it would
                                                          be trivial,
                                                          and cheap, to
                                                          make up what
                                                          you show.
                                                          Perhaps just
                                                          solder ready
                                                          pads at 0.1”
                                                          pitch, then
                                                          the side sip
                                                          connectors
                                                          wired to the
                                                          first row of
                                                          pads at each
                                                          edge. Perhaps
                                                          5 PCBs in a
                                                          kit, with sip
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors,
                                                          unsoldered, in
                                                          a simple
                                                          plastic bag.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Does
                                                          that sound
                                                          like something
                                                          useful? If so,
                                                          I can ask the
                                                          China guys for
                                                          some idea of
                                                          pricing. If it
                                                          is just the
                                                          unsoldered
                                                          pcbs + parts,
                                                          I don’t think
                                                          it will be
                                                          expensive.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Regards,
                                                          Mark</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          On 7 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 4:38 PM,
                                                          Michael Balzer
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                          Mark,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          do you know of
                                                          some kind of
                                                          prototyping
                                                          board
                                                          available that
                                                          fits to our
                                                          piggy back
                                                          expansion
                                                          layout?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Something like
                                                          this: <a
                                                          href="https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regards,<br>
                                                          Michael<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          03.04.19 um
                                                          06:48 schrieb
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson:<br>
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                                                          <div>If you
                                                          have work to
                                                          do on this
                                                          DA26 expansion
                                                          ports, this is
                                                          pretty cool
                                                          and well
                                                          built:</div>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.aliexpress.com/item/26-Pin-D-SUB-DB26-3-Rows-Serial-Parallel-Port-Serial-Shellless-Male-And-Female-Connector/32886738786.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.20924c4dg34EEU</a></div>
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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Fon 02333 / 833 5735 * Handy 0176 / 206 989 26
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