<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Now I tested a little bit. Works fine, bright the led when recuperating. <div>But I look at the code and I not understand:</div><div><br></div><div>accel = (speed - m_accel_refspeed) / (now - m_accel_reftime) * 1000;<table class="gmail-diff-table gmail-js-diff-table gmail-tab-size" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:14px"></table> // smooth out road bumps & gear box backlash:<table class="gmail-diff-table gmail-js-diff-table gmail-tab-size" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:14px"></table>accel = (StdMetrics.ms_v_pos_acceleration->AsFloat() * m_accel_smoothing + accel) / (m_accel_smoothing + 1);</div><div><br></div><div>Use same variable, I think the first is unnecessary now.<br><table class="gmail-diff-table gmail-js-diff-table gmail-tab-size" style="box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;width:978px;color:rgb(36,41,46);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";font-size:14px"></table>      </div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 22., H, 11:13):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    Pushed:<br>
    <br>
    <a href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/commit/b44d466580b6961ada5ae42500c3fea68cab0f8a" target="_blank">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/commit/b44d466580b6961ada5ae42500c3fea68cab0f8a</a><br>
    <br>
    <tt>- Vehicle framework: regenerative braking signal generation</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>  New config:</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    vehicle [accel.smoothing] = 2.0     Acceleration
      smoothing factor (samples, 0 = none)</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.enable] = no    Regen brake light
      enable</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.port] = 1       … MAX7317 output
      port number (1, 3…9, default 1 = SW_12V)</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.on] = 1.3       … activation
      threshold (deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    vehicle [brakelight.off] = 0.7      … deactivation
      threshold (deceleration in m/s²)</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>  New metrics:</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    v.p.acceleration    = acceleration/deceleration in m/s²
      derived from v.p.speed</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>    v.e.regenbrake      = regenerative brake light state</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt><br>
    </tt><tt>- Twizy web UI: regenerative braking signal configuration</tt><tt><br>
    </tt><br>
    <br>
    I've tested this using an LED on EGPIO_8, I'll do & document the
    Twizy hardware modification next weekend (if I receive my order in
    time…).<br>
    <br>
    @Tamás: to add the UI to the Mitsubishi code:<br>
    <br>
    <a href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127" target="_blank">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/blob/master/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_displays.cpp#L1127</a><br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.04.19 um 04:12 schrieb Mark
      Webb-Johnson:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div>Yes, EGPIO1 had to be used for SN65 control so is
        not available for general use.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      Max7317 has 10 outputs (P0 .. P9):
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>
        <ul class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098MailOutline">
          <li>P0 MDM EN (controls modem power)</li>
          <li>P1 SW CTL (to BTS452 for EXT 12v power control)</li>
          <li>P2 EGPIO1 (SN65 transceiver power saving control)</li>
          <li>P3 EGPIO2 available for general use</li>
          <li>P4 EGPIO3 available for general use</li>
          <li>P5 EGPIO4 available for general use</li>
          <li>P6 EGPIO5 available for general use</li>
          <li>P7 EGPIO6 available for general use</li>
          <li>P8 EGPIO<b>7</b> available for general
            use</li>
          <li>P9 EGPIO<b>8</b> available for general
            use</li>
        </ul>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Regards, Mark</div>
        <div><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div>On 22 Apr 2019, at 3:36 AM, Michael Balzer
              <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Mark,<br>
                <br>
                btw: is EGPIO_1 not free for general use? The esp32can
                SN65 seems to be controlled by that line.<br>
                <br>
                Regards,<br>
                Michael<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.04.19 um 15:01
                  schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  
                  If changing vehicle.{h, cpp} framework, I suggest
                  leaving a hook in to allow the vehicle module to
                  override / supplement this. In particular, the brake
                  light may be controllable via can message on some
                  vehicles.
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>You can look at the ext12v circuit to
                    see how to control this.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The ext12v system is a switchable 12v
                    line already wired up and available on DA26
                    expansion. Would be trivial to put an external relay
                    on that to switch brake lights.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Regards, Mark.<br>
                    <div><br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div>On 21 Apr 2019, at 1:32 AM, Tamás
                          Kovács <<a href="mailto:kommykt@gmail.com" target="_blank">kommykt@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:monospace">JP1
                                  pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680 Ohms ]
                                  ---+--- [ LED ] ----- pin 28 (GND)</span><br style="font-family:monospace">
                                <span style="font-family:monospace">                              </span><span style="font-family:monospace">        
                                  |</span><br style="font-family:monospace">
                                <span style="font-family:monospace">                              </span><span style="font-family:monospace">     
                                  pin 12 (EGPIO_8)</span><br>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:monospace"><br>
                                </span></div>
                              <div><span style="font-family:monospace">I
                                  can connect a 680Ohm resistor first
                                  end to pin1, a </span><font face="monospace">second end to pin12,
                                  and the led positive side to pin12 and
                                  negative to pin28(gnd). Now I have
                                  only 470ohm resistor at home, I tested
                                  now with a 4V li-ion battery and my
                                  red led power is 4mA. I can use this
                                  (470Ohm) resistor or buy a 680Ohm.</font></div>
                              <div><font face="monospace">Tomorrow I remove the
                                  OVMS module from my car, and create
                                  some test, if the resistor (470Ohm) is
                                  OK. </font></div>
                              <div><font face="monospace">I used this
                                  calculator for led series resistor
                                  calculation (I used a red Led): </font><a href="http://ledcalc.com/" target="_blank">http://ledcalc.com</a></div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael
                              Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                              ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 20., Szo,
                              11:16):<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Be aware
                                the MAX71317 outputs are open drain, so
                                you need a pull up resistor to e.g.
                                +3.3. According to the data sheet, the
                                current should stay below 6 mA.<br>
                                <br>
                                I've just done a quick test wiring like
                                this:<br>
                                <br>
                                <tt>JP1 pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [
                                  680 Ohms ] ---+--- [ LED ] ----- pin
                                  28 (GND)<br>
                                                                        
                                  |<br>
                                                                     
                                  pin 12 (EGPIO_8)<br>
                                </tt><br>
                                Works as expected.<br>
                                <br>
                                Regards,<br>
                                Michael<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                  19.04.19 um 09:59 schrieb Michael
                                  Balzer:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite"> Sure.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  You need to route an EGPIO line to the
                                  DA26 port. For a first test you can
                                  add a simple jumper on expansion port
                                  pins 10/12 to route EGPIO_8 to GEP_7
                                  (= pin 21 on DA26).<br>
                                  <br>
                                  You should then be able to use the
                                  "egpio" command to test your LED.
                                  EGPIO_1 … _8 labels correspond to
                                  MAX7317 ports 2 … 9, so to control
                                  EGPIO_8, do:<br>
                                  <blockquote><tt>OVMS#
                                      egpio output 9 1  # EGPIO_8 on</tt><br>
                                    <tt><tt>OVMS# </tt>
                                      egpio output 9 0  # EGPIO_8 off</tt><br>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  (correct me if I'm wrong, Mark)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I wasn't aware there are other cars in
                                  need of something like this. I'll
                                  think about adding the logic as an
                                  option to the vehicle framework, but I
                                  can send you some patch to test this
                                  on your i-MiEV/clone first.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Regards,<br>
                                  Michael<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                    19.04.19 um 09:24 schrieb Tamás
                                    Kovács:<br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                    <div dir="ltr">I can add
                                      for testing a simple led (with
                                      resistor) , same as SimpleConsole
                                      (twizy OVMS V2), to show car is
                                      recuperating, connected to DA26
                                      external expansion port?</div>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                        Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                        ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr.
                                        19., P, 9:17):<br>
                                      </div>
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                                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                          As the Mitsubishi code also
                                          reads battery current/power
                                          level from CAN, it would be
                                          trivial to add the same logic
                                          there.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                            19.04.19 um 06:52 schrieb
                                            Tamás Kovács:<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div dir="ltr">
                                              <div dir="ltr">The
                                                Trio (Mitsubishi I-Miev
                                                and clones) does not
                                                activate the brake light
                                                on recuperation on 2105
                                                and older models, if
                                                this is work is very
                                                impressive.</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                                              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                                Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                                ezt írta (időpont: 2019.
                                                ápr. 18., Cs, 23:08):<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Mark,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  that looks very good.
                                                  Not sure about general
                                                  demand, but I think we
                                                  should have this to
                                                  enable simple custom
                                                  hardware I/O
                                                  extensions.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  For the Twizy, I was
                                                  thinking about adding
                                                  logic to control the
                                                  brake light from the
                                                  module. The Twizy does
                                                  not activate the brake
                                                  light on recuperation,
                                                  as that's normally
                                                  (untuned) not very
                                                  strong. But a tuned
                                                  Twizy allows one pedal
                                                  driving, so needs
                                                  this.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Looking at our case I
                                                  also think one custom
                                                  extension board should
                                                  fit on top of the
                                                  modem.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Regards,<br>
                                                  Michael<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                                    18.04.19 um 02:36
                                                    schrieb Mark
                                                    Webb-Johnson:<br>
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                                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                                    It seems the
                                                    attachments were
                                                    messed up, so
                                                    attaching again…
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Regards,
                                                      Mark.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
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                                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>On
                                                          17 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 10:07 PM,
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159Apple-interchange-newline">
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                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑"><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">Design layout.
                                                          Looks good to
                                                          me, but open
                                                          to
                                                          suggestions...</blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑"><br>
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                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">We can make in
                                                          sets of three
                                                          PCBs, to keep
                                                          prices down.</blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑"><br>
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                                                          <blockquote id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159ntes-pcmail-quote" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑">Regards, Mark<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          On 8 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 12:05 PM,
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          A kit of 5
                                                          PCBs + SIP
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors +
                                                          mounting
                                                          hardware,
                                                          unsoldered,
                                                          would be about
                                                          US$15 +
                                                          shipping.
                                                          About
                                                          US$3/board
                                                          set. With
                                                          shipping I
                                                          don’t think
                                                          this is worth
                                                          doing with
                                                          less than 3 or
                                                          5 boards per
                                                          kit.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Would
                                                          this be
                                                          useful?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Regards,
                                                          Mark.<br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>On
                                                          7 Apr 2019, at
                                                          9:08 PM, Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">This
                                                          is the closest
                                                          we have today:</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159cid:FB5D7C10-7B69-4ECC-98AF-C500BB6C39A3"><image1.jpeg></span></div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">That
                                                          is a bare
                                                          modem board,
                                                          with just the
                                                          sip
                                                          connectors.
                                                          The prototype
                                                          above is a
                                                          K-line
                                                          transceiver.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          think it would
                                                          be trivial,
                                                          and cheap, to
                                                          make up what
                                                          you show.
                                                          Perhaps just
                                                          solder ready
                                                          pads at 0.1”
                                                          pitch, then
                                                          the side sip
                                                          connectors
                                                          wired to the
                                                          first row of
                                                          pads at each
                                                          edge. Perhaps
                                                          5 PCBs in a
                                                          kit, with sip
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors,
                                                          unsoldered, in
                                                          a simple
                                                          plastic bag.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Does
                                                          that sound
                                                          like something
                                                          useful? If so,
                                                          I can ask the
                                                          China guys for
                                                          some idea of
                                                          pricing. If it
                                                          is just the
                                                          unsoldered
                                                          pcbs + parts,
                                                          I don’t think
                                                          it will be
                                                          expensive.</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Regards,
                                                          Mark</div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          On 7 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 4:38 PM,
                                                          Michael Balzer
                                                          <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" target="_blank">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          Mark,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          do you know of
                                                          some kind of
                                                          prototyping
                                                          board
                                                          available that
                                                          fits to our
                                                          piggy back
                                                          expansion
                                                          layout?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Something like
                                                          this: <a href="https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html" target="_blank">https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Regards,<br>
                                                          Michael<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail-m_-5223030792029442098gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205gmail-m_-7334428458932344159moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                                          03.04.19 um
                                                          06:48 schrieb
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson:<br>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>If
                                                          you have work
                                                          to do on this
                                                          DA26 expansion
                                                          ports, this is
                                                          pretty cool
                                                          and well
                                                          built:</div>
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