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    Julien,<br>
    <br>
    have a look at the Twizy schematics for the brake pedal switch (code
    160): it simply closes the 12V circuit on the brake light when
    pushed (pins 1+2).<br>
    <br>
    The only side effect of a parallel relay here is that you can
    disengage the hand brake when the relay is closed, as the relay does
    (electrically) the same as pushing the pedal.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.04.19 um 21:41 schrieb Julien
      “JaXX” Banchet:<br>
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      Hi,
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      <div>While I’m not that worried about relay lifetime (especially
        under low load) I was wondering if having the relay closed while
        pressing the real brakes wouldn’t trigger the (STOP) sign (on
        the Twizy) having it believe one of the lamps is dead because
        the relaly would short the current measurement. (I forgot to use
        a single comma in that sentence :-) )<br>
        <br>
        But I love the idea, I’m sometimes afraid people get a bit too
        close, and Parisians already love sticking to other people’s
        behinds. <br>
        <br>
        Regards,</div>
      <div>Julien</div>
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          On 21 Apr 2019, at 21:15, Michael Balzer <<a
            href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
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            Silly me, I somehow thought the ext12v should be reserved to
            power additional high level equipment, but that's of course
            the most simple solution.<br>
            <br>
            I've already ordered a set of these: <a
href="https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07912HD6H/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07912HD6H/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item</a><br>
            <br>
            …so I will be able to use the EGPIO lines as well. But I'll
            add the ext12v line to the control options.<br>
            <br>
            Regards,<br>
            Michael<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.04.19 um 15:01 schrieb
              Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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              If changing vehicle.{h, cpp} framework, I suggest leaving
              a hook in to allow the vehicle module to override /
              supplement this. In particular, the brake light may be
              controllable via can message on some vehicles.
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              <div class="">You can look at the ext12v circuit to see
                how to control this.</div>
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              <div class="">The ext12v system is a switchable 12v line
                already wired up and available on DA26 expansion. Would
                be trivial to put an external relay on that to switch
                brake lights.</div>
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              <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
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                    <div class="">On 21 Apr 2019, at 1:32 AM, Tamás
                      Kovács <<a href="mailto:kommykt@gmail.com"
                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">kommykt@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
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                              style="font-family:monospace" class="">JP1
                              pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680 Ohms ] ---+--- [
                              LED ] ----- pin 28 (GND)</span><br
                              style="font-family:monospace" class="">
                            <span style="font-family:monospace" class="">                              </span><span
                              style="font-family:monospace" class="">        
                              |</span><br style="font-family:monospace"
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                            <span style="font-family:monospace" class="">                              </span><span
                              style="font-family:monospace" class="">     
                              pin 12 (EGPIO_8)</span><br class="">
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                              style="font-family:monospace" class="">I
                              can connect a 680Ohm resistor first end to
                              pin1, a </span><font class=""
                              face="monospace">second end to pin12,
                              and the led positive side to pin12 and
                              negative to pin28(gnd). Now I have only
                              470ohm resistor at home, I tested now with
                              a 4V li-ion battery and my red led power
                              is 4mA. I can use this (470Ohm) resistor
                              or buy a 680Ohm.</font></div>
                          <div class=""><font class="" face="monospace">Tomorrow I
                              remove the OVMS module from my car, and
                              create some test, if the resistor (470Ohm)
                              is OK. </font></div>
                          <div class=""><font class="" face="monospace">I
                              used this calculator for led series
                              resistor calculation (I used a red Led): </font><a
                              href="http://ledcalc.com/" class=""
                              moz-do-not-send="true">http://ledcalc.com</a></div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael Balzer
                          <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                          ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 20., Szo,
                          11:16):<br class="">
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Be aware the
                            MAX71317 outputs are open drain, so you need
                            a pull up resistor to e.g. +3.3. According
                            to the data sheet, the current should stay
                            below 6 mA.<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            I've just done a quick test wiring like
                            this:<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <tt class="">JP1 pin 1 (+3.3) ----- [ 680
                              Ohms ] ---+--- [ LED ] ----- pin 28 (GND)<br
                                class="">
                                                                     |<br
                                class="">
                                                                  pin 12
                              (EGPIO_8)<br class="">
                            </tt><br class="">
                            Works as expected.<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            Regards,<br class="">
                            Michael<br class="">
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                              19.04.19 um 09:59 schrieb Michael Balzer:<br
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                            <blockquote type="cite" class=""> Sure.<br
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                              You need to route an EGPIO line to the
                              DA26 port. For a first test you can add a
                              simple jumper on expansion port pins 10/12
                              to route EGPIO_8 to GEP_7 (= pin 21 on
                              DA26).<br class="">
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                              You should then be able to use the "egpio"
                              command to test your LED. EGPIO_1 … _8
                              labels correspond to MAX7317 ports 2 … 9,
                              so to control EGPIO_8, do:<br class="">
                              <blockquote class=""><tt class="">OVMS#
                                  egpio output 9 1  # EGPIO_8 on</tt><br
                                  class="">
                                <tt class=""><tt class="">OVMS# </tt>
                                  egpio output 9 0  # EGPIO_8 off</tt><br
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                              (correct me if I'm wrong, Mark)<br
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                              I wasn't aware there are other cars in
                              need of something like this. I'll think
                              about adding the logic as an option to the
                              vehicle framework, but I can send you some
                              patch to test this on your i-MiEV/clone
                              first.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Regards,<br class="">
                              Michael<br class="">
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                                19.04.19 um 09:24 schrieb Tamás Kovács:<br
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                                <div dir="ltr" class="">I can add for
                                  testing a simple led (with resistor) ,
                                  same as SimpleConsole (twizy OVMS V2),
                                  to show car is recuperating, connected
                                  to DA26 external expansion port?</div>
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                                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Michael
                                    Balzer <<a
                                      href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                      target="_blank" class=""
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                    ezt írta (időpont: 2019. ápr. 19.,
                                    P, 9:17):<br class="">
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                                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> As
                                      the Mitsubishi code also reads
                                      battery current/power level from
                                      CAN, it would be trivial to add
                                      the same logic there.<br class="">
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class="gmail-m_7428775334725863850gmail-m_-4710357977456663205moz-cite-prefix">Am
                                        19.04.19 um 06:52 schrieb Tamás
                                        Kovács:<br class="">
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                                          <div dir="ltr" class="">The
                                            Trio (Mitsubishi I-Miev and
                                            clones) does not activate
                                            the brake light on
                                            recuperation on 2105 and
                                            older models, if this is
                                            work is very impressive.</div>
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                                            Balzer <<a
                                              href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                              target="_blank" class=""
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                            ezt írta (időpont: 2019.
                                            ápr. 18., Cs, 23:08):<br
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                                              class=""> Mark,<br
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                                              <br class="">
                                              that looks very good. Not
                                              sure about general demand,
                                              but I think we should have
                                              this to enable simple
                                              custom hardware I/O
                                              extensions.<br class="">
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                                              For the Twizy, I was
                                              thinking about adding
                                              logic to control the brake
                                              light from the module. The
                                              Twizy does not activate
                                              the brake light on
                                              recuperation, as that's
                                              normally (untuned) not
                                              very strong. But a tuned
                                              Twizy allows one pedal
                                              driving, so needs this.<br
                                                class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Looking at our case I also
                                              think one custom extension
                                              board should fit on top of
                                              the modem.<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
                                              Regards,<br class="">
                                              Michael<br class="">
                                              <br class="">
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                                                18.04.19 um 02:36
                                                schrieb Mark
                                                Webb-Johnson:<br
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                                                  Mark.</div>
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                                                        17 Apr 2019, at
                                                        10:07 PM, Mark
                                                        Webb-Johnson
                                                        <<a
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target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑" class="">Design layout.
                                                          Looks good to
                                                          me, but open
                                                          to
                                                          suggestions...</blockquote>
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:微软雅黑" class="">We can make in
                                                          sets of three
                                                          PCBs, to keep
                                                          prices down.</blockquote>
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                                                          On 8 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 12:05 PM,
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a
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target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
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                                                          A kit of 5
                                                          PCBs + SIP
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors +
                                                          mounting
                                                          hardware,
                                                          unsoldered,
                                                          would be about
                                                          US$15 +
                                                          shipping.
                                                          About
                                                          US$3/board
                                                          set. With
                                                          shipping I
                                                          don’t think
                                                          this is worth
                                                          doing with
                                                          less than 3 or
                                                          5 boards per
                                                          kit.
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                                                          <div class="">Would
                                                          this be
                                                          useful?</div>
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                                                          <div class="">Regards,
                                                          Mark.<br
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                                                          <div class="">On
                                                          7 Apr 2019, at
                                                          9:08 PM, Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:</div>
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                                                          is the closest
                                                          we have today:</div>
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                                                          class="">That
                                                          is a bare
                                                          modem board,
                                                          with just the
                                                          sip
                                                          connectors.
                                                          The prototype
                                                          above is a
                                                          K-line
                                                          transceiver.</div>
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                                                          class="">I
                                                          think it would
                                                          be trivial,
                                                          and cheap, to
                                                          make up what
                                                          you show.
                                                          Perhaps just
                                                          solder ready
                                                          pads at 0.1”
                                                          pitch, then
                                                          the side sip
                                                          connectors
                                                          wired to the
                                                          first row of
                                                          pads at each
                                                          edge. Perhaps
                                                          5 PCBs in a
                                                          kit, with sip
                                                          edge
                                                          connectors,
                                                          unsoldered, in
                                                          a simple
                                                          plastic bag.</div>
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                                                          class="">Does
                                                          that sound
                                                          like something
                                                          useful? If so,
                                                          I can ask the
                                                          China guys for
                                                          some idea of
                                                          pricing. If it
                                                          is just the
                                                          unsoldered
                                                          pcbs + parts,
                                                          I don’t think
                                                          it will be
                                                          expensive.</div>
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                                                          Mark</div>
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                                                          On 7 Apr 2019,
                                                          at 4:38 PM,
                                                          Michael Balzer
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                                                          Mark,<br
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                                                          <br class="">
                                                          do you know of
                                                          some kind of
                                                          prototyping
                                                          board
                                                          available that
                                                          fits to our
                                                          piggy back
                                                          expansion
                                                          layout?<br
                                                          class="">
                                                          <br class="">
                                                          Something like
                                                          this: <a
                                                          href="https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html"
target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.robotshop.com/de/de/cytron-arduino-proto-schild.html</a><br
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                                                          06:48 schrieb
                                                          Mark
                                                          Webb-Johnson:<br
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                                                          <div class="">If
                                                          you have work
                                                          to do on this
                                                          DA26 expansion
                                                          ports, this is
                                                          pretty cool
                                                          and well
                                                          built:</div>
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