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The voltages from your metrics dump have a std dev of just 3 mV,
while the v.b.p. dump shows 6.7 mV and a max of 7.2 mV:<br>
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<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.stddev
0.00669V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.stddev.max
0.00717V<br>
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…so either that's a strange bug or the battery pack has a lot of
fluctuations on the cell readings leading to sudden jumps.<br>
<br>
Tamás, your readings look more consistent, but also show some very
large deviations.<br>
<br>
Mark & Tamás, please try manual thresholds:<br>
<br>
<tt class="">config set vehicle bms.dev.voltage.warn 0.02</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class="">config set vehicle bms.dev.voltage.alert 0.03</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class="">config set vehicle bms.dev.temp.warn 2</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class="">config set vehicle bms.dev.temp.alert 3</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><br>
…if that still produces alerts, try raising them further.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.11.18 um 16:41 schrieb Michael
Balzer:<br>
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Obviously not working for you. Cells that exceeded the alert
threshold deviation from average get marked with "!", and "?" =
warn threshold exceeded.<br>
<br>
So at some point, many cells exceeded 200% stddev -- obviously not
in the established overall situation. Is there maybe some init
phase with unstable / incomplete readings that needs to be skipped
on the Model S?<br>
<br>
If so, a "bms reset" should clean the alerts up. Can you try that?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.11.18 um 16:01 schrieb Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br>
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Not really sure how to interpret this. I get:
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style="font-size: 14px;" class="">OVMS# bms alerts</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Voltage: SD=7mV
!1:-7mV !2:-4mV !3:-4mV !4:-5mV !5:-5mV !6:-6mV
!7:-1mV !8:+2mV !9:+0mV !10:+0mV !11:+0mV !12:-2mV
?13:+0mV !14:+4mV !15:+2mV !16:+2mV !17:+0mV !18:+0mV
!19:-3mV !20:+0mV !21:-1mV ?22:+0mV !23:-2mV !24:-2mV
!26:+2mV !27:+1mV !28:+2mV ?29:+0mV !30:+0mV !31:-2mV
?33:+0mV !35:-1mV !36:-2mV ?37:-5mV !38:-3mV !39:-2mV
!40:-2mV !41:-4mV !42:-6mV !43:-3mV !44:+0mV !45:-1mV
!46:-1mV !47:-1mV !48:-1mV !49:+6mV !50:+7mV !51:+6mV
!52:+8mV !53:+7mV !54:+6mV !55:+1mV !56:+4mV !57:+1mV
!58:+4mV !59:+0mV !60:+0mV !61:+3mV !62:+5mV !63:+4mV
!64:+4mV !65:+2mV !66:+3mV !67:-1mV !68:+2mV !69:+1mV
!70:+1mV !71:-1mV !72:-1mV !74:+2mV !76:+1mV ?77:+0mV
!78:-1mV !79:+1mV !80:+3mV !81:+1mV !82:+2mV !83:+2mV
!84:+1mV !85:-3mV !86:+2mV !87:-1mV !88:-1mV !89:-3mV
!90:-2mV !91:-2mV !92:-1mV !93:-2mV !94:-2mV !95:-3mV
!96:-4mV</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Temperature: SD=0.6C
?1:+0.5C ?2:+1.0C ?3:+0.3C ?4:+0.3C ?5:-0.2C ?7:-0.3C
?9:-0.2C !10:-0.2C ?12:-0.4C ?13:-0.3C ?14:-0.4C
?15:-0.5C ?16:-0.3C ?17:+0.8C !18:-0.3C ?19:-0.1C
?20:-0.3C ?21:-0.1C !22:-0.4C !24:-0.5C ?25:-0.3C
?26:-0.4C ?28:-0.3C ?29:+0.7C ?30:+0.3C ?31:+0.9C
?32:+0.5C</span></font></div>
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style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
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<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">OVMS# metrics list
v.b.c</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.temp
28.8652,29.4386,28.6334,28.6822,28.1942,28.5114,28.1454,28.4626,28.182,28.3406,28.3894,28.121,28.1088,28.1454,28.0112,28.182,28.9262,28.243,28.2674,28.2186,28.2918,28.0844,28.3528,28.0356,28.1454,28.1088,28.4626,28.2186,28.975,28.7554,29.0604,28.9384°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.temp.alert
1,2,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,2,0,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,2,1,1,2</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.temp.dev.max
0.52,1.03,0.31,0.26,-0.23,0.1,-0.29,-0.07,-0.25,-0.18,0.04,-0.44,-0.31,-0.39,-0.46,-0.34,0.76,-0.27,-0.15,-0.3,-0.13,-0.45,-0.08,-0.49,-0.28,-0.41,0.09,-0.28,0.73,0.34,0.92,0.52°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.temp.max
28.8774,29.4386,28.6578,28.6822,28.1942,28.5236,28.1454,28.4626,28.182,28.3406,28.3894,28.121,28.1088,28.1454,28.0112,28.182,29.1092,28.243,28.2674,28.2186,28.2918,28.0844,28.3528,28.0356,28.1576,28.1088,28.4626,28.2186,29.0848,28.7554,29.2678,28.9384°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.temp.min
28.853,29.3654,28.6212,28.5724,28.1332,28.3894,28.1088,28.2796,28.1332,28.1698,28.3894,27.9136,28.0966,27.9624,27.9014,28.0112,28.9262,28.0844,28.2674,28.0478,28.2796,27.9014,28.3406,27.8648,28.121,27.938,28.426,28.0722,28.975,28.609,29.0604,28.8042°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.voltage
4.13794,4.14099,4.14099,4.14099,4.14007,4.13915,4.14465,4.1477,4.14586,4.14556,4.14465,4.14373,4.14556,4.14922,4.14739,4.14709,4.14586,4.14586,4.14251,4.14556,4.14434,4.14495,4.14373,4.14342,4.14586,4.148,4.14586,4.14709,4.14526,4.14526,4.14342,4.14556,4.14526,4.14556,4.14434,4.14342,4.14038,4.14251,4.14282,4.14312,4.14099,4.13946,4.14251,4.14586,4.14434,4.14465,4.14465,4.14434,4.15197,4.15318,4.15166,4.1541,4.15318,4.15166,4.14709,4.14922,4.14709,4.14861,4.14617,4.14586,4.148,4.15074,4.14983,4.15044,4.1477,4.148,4.14465,4.148,4.14678,4.14647,4.14403,4.14403,4.14556,4.148,4.14586,4.14647,4.14465,4.14526,4.14617,4.148,4.14617,4.14647,4.14739,4.14678,4.14251,4.14709,4.14373,4.14434,4.14282,4.14373,4.14312,4.14465,4.14282,4.14312,4.14282,4.1419V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.voltage.alert
2,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,0,1,2,2,1,2,1,0,1,0,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,2,0,1,0,2,1,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.voltage.dev.max
-0.0082,-0.00487,-0.00498,-0.00508,-0.00583,-0.00674,-0.00139,0.00257,0.00096,0.00086,-0.00096,-0.00221,-0.00061,0.004,0.00275,0.00217,0.00096,0.00077,-0.0034,0.00081,-0.0017,-0.00091,-0.00234,-0.00304,0.00068,0.00288,0.00124,0.0022,-0.00052,-0.00078,-0.0024,0.00095,-0.00103,-0.00061,-0.00179,-0.00224,-0.00546,-0.00335,-0.0032,-0.00271,-0.00506,-0.00644,-0.0036,0.00087,-0.00129,-0.00168,-0.00139,-0.00132,0.00648,0.00824,0.00648,0.00883,0.0081,0.00641,0.00161,0.00443,0.00222,0.00401,0.00096,0.00095,0.00342,0.00597,0.00469,0.00505,0.00318,0.00315,-0.00127,0.00291,0.00132,0.00197,-0.0024,-0.00168,-0.00072,0.00275,0.00069,0.00184,-0.00096,-0.0012,0.00125,0.0032,0.00166,0.00203,0.00291,0.00153,-0.00355,0.00214,-0.00225,-0.00171,-0.003,-0.00249,-0.00292,-0.00152,-0.00295,-0.00296,-0.00311,-0.00432V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.voltage.max
4.13794,4.14129,4.14099,4.14099,4.14007,4.13915,4.14465,4.1477,4.14586,4.14586,4.14556,4.14403,4.14556,4.14922,4.1477,4.14709,4.14586,4.14586,4.14251,4.14586,4.14434,4.14495,4.14373,4.14342,4.14586,4.148,4.14617,4.14709,4.14556,4.14526,4.14342,4.14586,4.14526,4.14556,4.14434,4.14373,4.14099,4.14282,4.14282,4.14312,4.14099,4.13946,4.14282,4.14617,4.14465,4.14465,4.14465,4.14434,4.15197,4.15349,4.15197,4.1541,4.15318,4.15166,4.14709,4.14922,4.14709,4.14861,4.14617,4.14647,4.14861,4.15105,4.15014,4.15044,4.1483,4.1483,4.14465,4.148,4.14678,4.14709,4.14403,4.14403,4.14556,4.148,4.14586,4.14709,4.14526,4.14526,4.14647,4.148,4.14709,4.14739,4.1483,4.14678,4.14282,4.14709,4.14403,4.14434,4.14312,4.14373,4.14312,4.14465,4.14312,4.14312,4.14312,4.1419V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.c.voltage.min
4.13123,4.13427,4.13397,4.13397,4.13336,4.13214,4.13732,4.14038,4.13915,4.13885,4.13794,4.13641,4.13824,4.14159,4.14068,4.14007,4.13855,4.13824,4.1355,4.13885,4.13702,4.13794,4.13611,4.1358,4.13855,4.14099,4.13915,4.14007,4.13794,4.13794,4.13641,4.13855,4.13794,4.13824,4.13702,4.13641,4.13367,4.1358,4.1355,4.1358,4.13397,4.13275,4.13488,4.13855,4.13702,4.13702,4.13702,4.13732,4.14342,4.14586,4.14403,4.14617,4.14526,4.14403,4.13824,4.14159,4.13946,4.14038,4.13824,4.13824,4.14099,4.14342,4.14251,4.14251,4.14068,4.14038,4.13732,4.14099,4.13946,4.13976,4.13671,4.13671,4.13794,4.14038,4.13824,4.13946,4.13763,4.13763,4.13885,4.14038,4.13915,4.13946,4.14068,4.13885,4.1355,4.14007,4.13671,4.13732,4.13611,4.13641,4.13641,4.13732,4.13611,4.13641,4.13611,4.13458V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.cac</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.consumption
0Wh/km</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.coulomb.recd</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.coulomb.used</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.current</span></font></div>
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style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
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style="font-size: 14px;" class="">OVMS# metrics list
v.b.p</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.level.avg</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.level.max</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.level.min</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.level.stddev</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.temp.avg
28.43°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.temp.max
29.4508°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.temp.min
28.0234°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.temp.stddev
0.36°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.temp.stddev.max
0.65°C</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.avg
4.14669V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.max
4.15532V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.min
4.13855V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.stddev
0.00669V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.p.voltage.stddev.max
0.00717V</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
style="font-size: 14px;" class="">v.b.power</span></font></div>
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<div>And a bunch of push notifications every time I connect
the App, like this:</div>
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<div class="">On 17 Nov 2018, at 10:51 PM, Michael Balzer
<<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> First
implementation of general cell deviation checking and
alerts is pushed.<br class="">
<br class="">
<tt class=""> Vehicle BMS: cell deviations &
alerts</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> Renamed metrics:</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - v.b.c.level.* → v.b.p.level.*
(for consistency)</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> New metrics:</tt><tt class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt class=""> -
v.b.c.(voltage,temp).(dev.max,alert)</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> -
v.b.p.(voltage,temp).(min,max,avg,stddev,stddev.max)</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> New configs:</tt><tt class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - vehicle [bms.dev.voltage.warn]
-- threshold [V]</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - vehicle
[bms.dev.voltage.alert] -- threshold [V]</tt><tt
class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - vehicle [bms.dev.temp.warn] --
threshold [°C]</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - vehicle [bms.dev.temp.alert]
-- threshold [°C]</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> …all optional, default: warn at
120% stddev, alert at 200% stddev</tt><tt class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt class=""> </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt class=""> New commands:</tt><tt class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt class=""> - bms alerts → show cells with
warn/alert levels</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><br class="">
<br class="">
I changed the config scheme hoping a manual
configuration normally isn't necessary with this
automatic adaption to the standard deviation.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Please check and report if that idea works. If it
doesn't, please report the deviations and necessary
threshold levels on your batteries.<br class="">
<br class="">
I also omitted the overall stddev alerts for now, I
don't think those really are necessary, haven't had a
single trigger on the Twizy for this.<br class="">
<br class="">
Integration into the web chart page and historical
data updates are still todo.<br class="">
<br class="">
Migration for the Twizy battery monitor to the
generalized scheme is in progress.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.11.18 um 11:53
schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
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cite="mid:1844F7C2-3572-4F1F-B16E-2F66A8CECD28@webb-johnson.net"
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Short video showing Model S
charging;</div>
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On 17 Nov 2018, at 6:13 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <<a
href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Ok. Will do.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Now you remind me, bms
looks good on iPhone:</div>
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On 17 Nov 2018, at 6:08 PM, Michael Balzer
<<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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Yes, you can add a new menu to PageMenu_t
like that. I suggest introducing a general
tools menu instead of a specific one, i.e.
"PageMenu_Tools".<br class="">
<br class="">
To still fit the menu on one line in tablet
mode (width down to 768 px) I suggest moving
the Shell into the tools menu then.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Go ahead, I'm not working on the web
framework at the moment.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.11.18 um
10:48 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br
class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:E46F474B-C515-454C-B011-7916A84BBA87@webb-johnson.net"
class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"
class="">
Twizy code overrides the virtual short
name function, so won’t suffer the issue.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I think it is a bug in
vehicle factory (as modifying the
vehicle type is reasonable), so fixed it
there. Returning NULL is problematic. It
would be so much easier for everything
to return std::string, but concern is
memory consumption and overhead.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I’d like to start converting
RE TOOLS to just use the web server.
First step is to work out how to add a
menu onto the web server. It seems that
the PageMenu_t is a fixed enum list (and
similarly hard-coded in the
web_framework.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0
40px;
 border: none;

padding:
 0px;" class="">
<div class="">Do I just add a ‘CAN bus’
menu there, by adding it to
PageMenu_t, and supporting it where
the other top level menus are? Or do
you have any other suggestions/plans
for this?</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I don’t want to step on
anything you are working on here.</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The second stage will be
to add displays under that, but I
think that is fairly straight forward.
I will mostly be displaying tables,
and sending those over the web socket
would be good.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards, Mark</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On 17 Nov 2018, at
5:37 PM, Michael Balzer <<a
href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">
Mark,<br class="">
<br class="">
nice, thanks.<br class="">
<br class="">
The short name is used for the
menu label. It's meant to fall
back to the long name (and seems
to do so in your screenshot), so
should not be null. But I admit
I haven't tested it on a vehicle
without a short name.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Btw, I'm currently working on
the deviations and alerts.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
17.11.18 um 10:08 schrieb Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:096E607E-ADE6-4780-BB70-C8E5B8A7AC2D@webb-johnson.net"
class="">
<meta
http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
Michael,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Looks good. It
seems that you did
everything necessary for the
Model S already in your
commit 2a84d861403f48142d6adcc16ad7a20cd458e427:</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<blockquote style="margin: 0 0
0
 40px;
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none;


padding:
 0px;" class="">
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class="">#include
“ovms_webserver.h"</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class=""><br
class="">
</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class="">OvmsVehicleTeslaModelS::OvmsVehicleTeslaModelS()</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class="">MyWebServer.RegisterPage("/bms/cellmon",
"BMS cell monitor",
OvmsWebServer::HandleBmsCellMonitor,
PageMenu_Vehicle,
PageAuth_Cookie);</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class=""><br
class="">
</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class="">OvmsVehicleTeslaModelS::~OvmsVehicleTeslaModelS()</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font class=""
face="Andale
 Mono"><span
style="font-size:
14px;" class="">MyWebServer.DeregisterPage("/bms/cellmon");</span></font></div>
</blockquote>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">From my
devbench, replaying a CAN
CRTD log file, I get this
output:<br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span
id="cid:part1.478CBE5C.50A27CA9@expeedo.de"
class=""><PastedGraphic-2.png></span></div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">The animation
is very nice.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am, however,
getting crashes, as
follows:</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin: 0 0
0
 40px;
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none;


padding:
 0px;" class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">#
xtensa-esp32-elf-addr2line -pfiaC -e 3.1.011-25-g2a84d86.ovms3.elf
0x400935d3
0x4009372b
0x400db90c
0x4012c0f7
0x4012d0e1
0x4012d1e0
0x4012ebc1
0x4012ecbd
0x400f8b65
0x400f912d
0x400fa27c
0x400fa29a
0x400f8b65
0x400fa3e3
0x400fa7ad
0x400faa77
0x400f767e
0x400ee40a
0x400ee459</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400935d3:
invoke_abort at
/home/openvehicles/build/esp-idf/components/esp32/panic.c:670</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4009372b:
abort at
/home/openvehicles/build/esp-idf/components/esp32/panic.c:670</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400db90c:
__cxx_fatal_exception_message at
/home/openvehicles/build/esp-idf/components/cxx/cxx_exception_stubs.cpp:19</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4012c0f7:
void
std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>
>::_M_construct<char
const*>(char
const*, char
const*,
std::forward_iterator_tag) at
/home/openvehicles/build/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.tcc:216</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class=""> (inlined
by) void
std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>
>::_M_construct_aux<char
const*>(char
const*, char
const*,
std::__false_type)
at
/home/openvehicles/build/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.h:195</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class=""> (inlined
by) void
std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>
>::_M_construct<char
const*>(char
const*, char
const*) at
/home/openvehicles/build/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.h:214</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class=""> (inlined
by)
std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char>
>::basic_string(char
const*,
std::allocator<char>
const&) at
/home/openvehicles/build/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.h:457</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4012d0e1:
OvmsWebServer::CreateMenu[abi:cxx11](PageContext&) at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_framework.cpp:393</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4012d1e0:
OvmsWebServer::HandleRoot(PageEntry&, PageContext&) at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/web_framework.cpp:510</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4012ebc1:
PageEntry::Serve(PageContext&) at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/ovms_webserver.cpp:558</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x4012ecbd:
OvmsWebServer::EventHandler(mg_connection*, int, void*) at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/ovms_webserver/src/ovms_webserver.cpp:558</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400f8b65:
mg_call at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400f912d:
mg_http_call_endpoint_handler at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400fa27c:
mg_http_handler2
at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400fa29a:
mg_http_handler at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400f8b65:
mg_call at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400fa3e3:
mg_recv_common at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400fa7ad:
mg_if_recv_tcp_cb
at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class=""> (inlined
by)
mg_handle_tcp_read
at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:3723</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class=""> (inlined
by)
mg_mgr_handle_conn
at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:3844</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400faa77:
mg_socket_if_poll
at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400f767e:
mg_mgr_poll at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/mongoose/mongoose/mongoose.c:1701</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400ee40a:
OvmsNetManager::MongooseTask() at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/main/ovms_netmanager.cpp:560</span></font></div>
<div class=""><font
class=""
face="Andale

Mono"><span
style="font-size:

14px;" class="">0x400ee459:
MongooseRawTask(void*) at
/home/openvehicles/build/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3.1/vehicle/OVMS.V3/main/ovms_netmanager.cpp:545</span></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">On my
development bench module I
get this crash 1 in 4
times or so. On my real
car, 100% of the time.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">That code path
leads
into MyVehicleFactory.ActiveVehicleShortName().
Those should all be ‘const
char*’, but it is possible
for NULL to be returned. I
will look into it in more
detail.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite"
class="">
<div class="">On 17 Nov
2018, at 7:35 AM,
Michael Balzer <<a
href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta
http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8"
class="">
<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
class=""> Mark,
Tamás,<br class="">
<br class="">
I haven't had the
time yet to take
care of the stddev
port, but I've just
added the
generalized web UI.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Please see git log
for details and send
some screenshots.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div
class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
11.11.18 um 16:47
schrieb Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br
class="">
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite"
cite="mid:C4AAA14F-A53C-47E7-AB38-DC5437F14037@webb-johnson.net"
class="">
<meta
http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
OK. I spent some
time on this
today, and sent in
a first draft (as
a bunch of
extensions to
vehicle.{h, cpp}).
I migrated the
Tesla Model S code
to use it, and
support came down
to just a few
simple lines of
code.
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">For
the moment, I
dropped the idea
of
‘readingsperrow’,
as I think that
is Tesla Model S
specific, and
not really
necessary.
Purely
presentational.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">c++
std::bitset is
fixed size, so
that doesn’t
work for us. The
std::vector<bool> seems a workable alternative, but I am not
really happy
with using
std::find as a
way of looking
to see if we
have everything.
It works as it
is, but is not
very optimal. It
seems there
should be a
better way of
doing that. I
think it is a
pretty key
feature, given
the broadcast
nature of the
buses, to help
the vehicle
module know when
it has a set of
data ready to
commit to
metrics, so will
need to think
about this some
more.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">I
also implemented
min and max, for
voltages and
temperatures.
They went in
cleanly. Haven’t
tackled stddev
yet (or the
watchers/alerts,
overall
aggregates,
etc). There is a
very basic ‘bms
status’ command
implemented.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Let
me know what you
think of it.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards,
Mark</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">
<div class="">On
11 Nov 2018,
at 5:11 PM,
Michael Balzer
<<a
href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
wrote:</div>
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class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta
http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div
text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Mark,<br class="">
<br class="">
yes, .min
& .max are
the minimum
and maximum
readings seen
since last
battery
monitor reset.
The reset
should be
available as…<br
class="">
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::ResetCellStats();</li>
<li class="">Command:
"vehicle bms
reset" …or
just "bms
reset" as we
also have
other vehicle
commands on
the root
level?<br
class="">
</li>
</ul>
On the Twizy I
do an auto
reset each
time the
vehicle is
turned on and
each time a
charge starts,
but that
behaviour
should be
controllable
by the vehicle
/ user.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
There's
additionally
the overall {
.stddev, .avg
} on voltages
and
temperatures
of the pack.
These and the
cell level
statistics can
be calculated
by the
framework, so
the vehicle
simply needs
to provide the
readings. The
framework
needs to
provide a way
to reset the
readings
completion
bitset, i.e.<br
class="">
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::RestartCellVoltages();</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::RestartCellTemperatures();</li>
</ul>
…as sometimes
readings get
lost, and
adding new to
the previous
readings may
lead to an
inconsistent
view leading
to wrong
standard
deviation.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Speaking of
standard
deviation, the
framework
should also
provide
warnings and
alerts flags.
On the Twizy
it does so by
checking
deviation
thresholds,
and there's a
general stddev
warn &
alert
threshold to
detect overall
condition and
two alert
thresholds on
the cell
level, one for
normal stddev
and one for
stddev alert
mode. Warning
flags on the
cell level are
set when the
cell deviation
is above
stddev. On the
Twizy these
thresholds are
currently
fixed to…<br
class="">
<blockquote
class=""><tt
class="">//
Battery
cell/cmod
deviation
alert
thresholds:</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_DEV_TEMP_ALERT 3 // = 3 °C</tt><br class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_DEV_VOLT_ALERT 6 // = 30 mV</tt><br class="">
<br class="">
<tt class="">//
...thresholds
for overall
stddev:</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_STDDEV_TEMP_WATCH 2 // = 2 °C</tt><br class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_STDDEV_TEMP_ALERT 3 // = 3 °C</tt><br class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_STDDEV_VOLT_WATCH 3 // = 15 mV</tt><br class="">
<tt class="">#define
BATT_STDDEV_VOLT_ALERT 5 // = 25 mV</tt><br class="">
</blockquote>
…these are
good defaults
for the Twizy
43 Ah pouch
cells, but may
be too low for
an 18650 pack,
and will
especially not
fit cheap LFP
type cells. So
these should
be
configurable,
i.e.<br
class="">
<ul class="">
<li class="">vehicle
bms.dev.temp.alert [°C]</li>
<li class="">vehicle
bms.dev.voltage.alert [V]</li>
<li class="">vehicle
bms.stddev.temp.watch [°C]</li>
<li class="">vehicle
bms.stddev.temp.alert [°C]</li>
<li class="">vehicle
bms.stddev.voltage.watch [V]</li>
<li class="">vehicle
bms.stddev.voltage.alert [V]</li>
</ul>
I can
generalize the
Twizy code for
all of this.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
The Twizy
battery
monitoring
command set
is:<br
class="">
<blockquote
class=""><tt
class="">OVMS#
xrt batt ?</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">data-cell
Output cell
record</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">data-pack
Output pack
record</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">reset
Reset alerts
& watches</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">status
Status report</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">tdev
Show
temperature
deviations</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">temp
Show
temperatures</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">vdev
Show voltage
deviations</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">volt
Show voltages</tt><br
class="">
</blockquote>
The "data"
commands
provide the
server
historical
records
output. The
other commands
originate from
the V2 and
have been
designed to
keep the
output within
the SMS msg
size limit.<br
class="">
<br class="">
"status" gives
an operative
overview of
the standard
and max
deviation
levels of
cells with
warning or
alert status.
"volt",
"vdev", "temp"
and "tdev"
show all
cells.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The Twizy
generates a
battery alert
notification
from the
"status"
output
whenever some
cell alert
flag is set.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
The Twizy
server records
also originate
from the V2
limits, and
can now better
be changed to
vectors. I've
just finished
a virtual
dynamometer on
the Twizy,
sending a
vector metric
to the server
is just a
matter of…<br
class="">
<blockquote
class=""><tt
class="">std::string
msg =
"RT-ENG-MotTrqDrv,0,86400,";</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">msg.append(m_mon.m_mot_torque_drv->AsString());</tt><br
class="">
<tt class="">MyNotify.NotifyString("data",
"xrt.pwr.mon",
msg.c_str());</tt><br
class="">
</blockquote>
Neat.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The Twizy
sends server
records once
per minute
during
drive/charge.
The server
update
frequency
should become
tunable as
well, as that
would be a lot
of additional
data volume on
large packs.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
The Twizy
layout may be
either…<br
class="">
<ul
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">14
cell groups in
the pack</li>
<li class="">2
cell groups in
each module</li>
<li class="">7
modules in the
pack</li>
<li class="">Each
cell group has
1 voltage
measurement
(so, 14
individual
voltage
measurements)</li>
<li class="">Each
module has 1
temperature
measurements
(so, 7
individual
temperature
measurements)</li>
<li class="">That
means:</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(14,
2, 7)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(7,
1, 7)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<p class="">…for
the original
battery, or
for an LFP
type
replacement…</p>
<ul
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">16
cell groups in
the pack</li>
<li class="">16
cell groups in
each module</li>
<li class="">1
module in the
pack</li>
<li class="">Each
cell group has
1 voltage
measurement
(so, 16
individual
voltage
measurements)</li>
<li class="">Each
module has 3
temperature
measurements
(so, 3
individual
temperature
measurements)</li>
<li class="">That
means:</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(16,
16, 8)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(3,
3, 3)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<br class="">
Regards,<br
class="">
Michael<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div
class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
11.11.18 um
08:10 schrieb
Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br
class="">
</div>
<blockquote
type="cite"
cite="mid:88AF6B7B-37D7-4698-97CD-43B6E481DBF0@webb-johnson.net"
class="">
<meta
http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
Looking at the
discussion
with Michael
back in May,
we came to
some
conclusions
for this. I
was happy back
then with
using ‘cell’
rather than
‘module’ as
the naming,
because (a) we
are talking
about
cell/brick/module
level here,
not pack, and
(b) it is
shorter. It
seems that the
twizy has:
<div class=""><br
class="">
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<blockquote
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style="background-color:

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class="">xrt.b.cell.01.volt.act
3.995V</tt><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
style="background-color:




rgb(255,

255,


 255);" class="">xrt.b.cell.01.volt.max
4.12V</tt><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
style="background-color:




rgb(255,

255,


 255);" class="">xrt.b.cell.01.volt.maxdev
0.01V</tt><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
style="background-color:




rgb(255,

255,


 255);" class="">xrt.b.cell.01.volt.min
3.795V</tt><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><br
class="">
</tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class="">...</tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class="">xrt.b.cell.cnt
14</tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class="">...</tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class="">xrt.b.cmod.01.temp.act
17°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.cmod.01.temp.max
23°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.cmod.01.temp.maxdev
1°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.cmod.01.temp.min
16°C</tt></tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class="">...</tt></tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class="">xrt.b.cmod.cnt
7</tt></tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class="">...</tt></tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class=""><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.temp.alerts</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.temp.max
23°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.temp.min
16°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.temp.stddev.max
1°C</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.temp.watches</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.volt.alerts</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.volt.max
57.6V</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.volt.min
52.8V</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.volt.stddev.max
0.005V</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.1.volt.watches
1,2,4,5,6,7,11,12,14</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.pack.cnt
1</tt></tt></tt></div>
<div class=""><tt
style="background-color:

 rgb(255,
 255,
 255);"
class=""><tt
class=""><tt
class="">...<br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.soc.max
100%</tt><tt
class=""><br
class="">
</tt><tt
class="">xrt.b.soc.min
69.78%</tt></tt></tt></div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Trying
to come up
with a
standard
representation
for this (so
everyone can
use a shared
library, and
share output
displays),
that works
across all
vehicles...
Assuming we
have
one-dimensional
arrays for
different
types of
measurement
(for voltage,
temperature,
etc),
measurements
are taken at
the group of
cells level
(with perhaps
different
groupings for
different
readings), and
aggregations/limits being automatically calculated, I think this has:</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<ol
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">v.b.c.voltage<br
class="">
<br class="">
Vector<float> metric type array of voltage measurements<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
<li class="">v.b.c.temp<br
class="">
<br class="">
Vector<float> metric type array of temperature measurements<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
<li class="">Aggregations
/ limits<br
class="">
<br class="">
We could have
v.b.c.voltage.min, v.b.c.voltage.max, v.b.c.voltage.maxdev,
v.b.c.temp.min,
v.b.c.temp.max, and v.b.c.temp.maxdev if we wanted to store these.
Presumably
they could be
automatically
calculated? I
am guessing
‘min’ is the
minimal value
seen, and
‘max’ the
maximum?<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
<li class="">Setting
as a batch<br
class="">
<br class="">
The way I’ve
implemented
the Model S is
to keep a
bitmap of
values set.
For example,
say we have 32
cell voltage
measurements.
Every time we
set a voltage
measurement,
we set the
appropriate
bit. When the
bitmap is
full, zero the
bitmap, then
set the metric
in bulk
(setting the
entire
vector). That
seems to work
well for Model
S at least.
The
aggregations/limits
would be
calculated
(and set) when
the batch is
ready. I
suggest
something
like:<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellVoltage(int
index, float
value);</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellTemperature(int
index, float
value);<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
</ul>
<li class="">Arrangement<br
class="">
<br class="">
My thinking is
that the count
of
measurements
available can
be defined
when the
module
initialises.
We can also
simply count
the size of
the vectors,
to know that.
The issue is
the
cell/brick/module/pack
arrangement;
How many
voltage or
temperature
measurements
per module,
how many
modules in the
pack, etc. I
think we need
to tell the
system (a) the
number of
readings
expected, (b)
the number of
readings per
module, and
(c) a hint to
say how many
readings to
show per row.
I suggest
something
like:<br
class="">
<br class="">
</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(int
readings, int
readingspermodule, int readingsperrow)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(int
readings, int
readingspermodule, int readingsperrow)<br class="">
<br class="">
</li>
</ul>
<li class="">Commands<br
class="">
<br class="">
Once the above
is defined we
can have a
‘vehicle bms
status’
command to
show the
status (like
the Tesla
Model S one
shown here,
albeit more
polished):</li>
</ol>
</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
</div>
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Vmax: 3.983
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</span></div>
<div class="">(The
vehicle itself
having the
control via
the
SetCellArrangement methods)</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">To
provide a
baseline usage
case, the
Tesla Model S
has:</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<ul
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">96
bricks in the
pack</li>
<li class="">6
bricks in each
module</li>
<li class="">16
modules in the
pack</li>
<li class="">Each
brick has one
voltage
measurement
(so, 96
individual
voltage
measurements)</li>
<li class="">Each
module has two
temperature
measurements
(so, 32
individual
temperature
measurements)</li>
<li class="">That
means:</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(96,
6, 3)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(32,
2, 1)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Tesla
Model X seems
identical to
Model S.</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">I
am still
working on
reverse
engineering
the Tesla
Roadster, but
it seems to
have:</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<ul
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">99
bricks in the
pack</li>
<li class="">9
bricks in each
module (aka
sheet)</li>
<li class="">11
modules in the
pack</li>
<li class="">Each
brick has one
voltage
measurement
(so, 11*9 = 99
individual
voltage
measurements)</li>
<li class="">Each
module has
four
temperature
measurements
(so, 11*4 = 44
individual
temperature
measurements)</li>
<li class="">That
means:</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(99,
9, 9)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(44,
4, 4)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">For
other cars
that support
cell-level
measurements,
do they fit
this
representation?
If so, can we
fill in the
following for
each car, to
see how it
fits in?</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">
<ul
class="MailOutline">
<li class="">XX
cell groups in
the pack</li>
<li class="">XX
cell groups in
each module</li>
<li class="">XX
modules in the
pack</li>
<li class="">Each
cell group has
one voltage
measurement
(so, XX
individual
voltage
measurements)</li>
<li class="">Each
module has
four
temperature
measurements
(so, XX
individual
temperature
measurements)</li>
<li class="">That
means:</li>
<ul class="">
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementVoltage(N,
Y, Z)</li>
<li class="">OvmsVehicle::SetCellArrangementTemperature(N,
Y, Z)</li>
</ul>
</ul>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">If
they don’t
fit, what
changes are
needed to make
it work?</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
</div>
<div class="">Regards,
Mark.</div>
</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">
<div class="">On
11 Nov 2018,
at 12:16 AM,
Mark
Webb-Johnson
<<a
href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br
class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="">I
originally
thought
‘brick’, or
‘module’
rather than
‘cell’, but
happy with
either. These
are readings
for groups of
cells, rather
than whole
pack.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Tesla Model S
is 16 modules.
6 voltage
readings, and
2
temperatures,
per module.<br
class="">
<br class="">
What is Kia
Soul
arrangement?<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards, Mark<br
class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">On 10
Nov 2018, at
11:26 PM,
Henrik Scheel
<<a
href="mailto:henrik.scheel@spjeldager.dk"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">henrik.scheel@spjeldager.dk</a>>
wrote:<br
class="">
<br class="">
Hi Mark.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Good idea with
a generic
array type
metric, and
standard
metrics for
common EV
features!<br
class="">
<br class="">
Just a quick
note:<br
class="">
The Kia Soul
EV vehicle
module will be
able to
utilize these
metric-arrays.
However, on
the Soul, the
voltages are
for each
physical pair
of cells
connected in
parallel, and
the
temperatures
are for 6
battery
modules, and
for the
battery
cooling air
inlet. <br
class="">
<br class="">
So, for the
Kia Soul EV,
the name
“v.b.cell.temp”
would be
misleading, as
each measured
module
temperature is
representing
the state for
16 pairs of
cells.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Aside from
that, I am all
for mapping
the values in
these new
standardized
metric types.
Currently, the
temperature
average is
calculated and
mapped to a
metric, and
the 96 cell
voltages are
unmapped for
Kia Soul EV.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Best regards,<br
class="">
Henrik<br
class="">
-- <br
class="">
<br class="">
Venlig hilsen
/ best regards
<br class="">
Henrik R.
Scheel<br
class="">
<br class="">
Spjeldager
Consult ApS<br
class="">
Spjeldager 9 <br
class="">
DK-2630
Taastrup <br
class="">
CVR: 34491399
<br class="">
T: +45 2720
9828 <br
class="">
<a
href="http://www.spjeldager.dk/"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.spjeldager.dk/</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
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I?ve added
UnregisterCommand()
methods to
ovms_command.{h,
cpp}. I?ve
also updated
the
vehicle_teslamodels
code to
UnregisterCommand
in the
destructor. I
think that is
cleaner. The
unregistering
of CAN buses
already seems
to be working
properly,
config
parameters
should persist
(even without
vehicle module
loaded). I am
still
considering
the situation
with metrics
(but tend to
think that
they should
disappear when
the vehicle
module is
unloaded).<br
class="">
<br class="">
I?ve also
changed the
vehicle_teslamodels
code to use
single voltage
and temperate
metric arrays
(I think my
previous dual
voltage
temperature
arrangement
was
incorrect). I
think these
can now become
standard
metrics (one
for battery
voltage, and
another for
temperature).
How about
v.b.cell.voltage
and
v.b.cell.temp?
The
interpretation
of those
vectors (how
many modules
primarily -
with the
calculation of
voltages and
temperatures
per module
being
dependent on
the realtime
size of each
array) will
still be
vehicle
dependent, and
I guess the
vehicle module
can provide
hints to our
standard
component for
this. Perhaps
we can just
implement it
in vehicle.{h,
cpp}? I think
this standard
module can
deal with:<br
class="">
<br class="">
An interface
for specific
vehicle module
to specify the
number of
modules,
number of
voltage
measurements,
and number of
temperature
measurements
available.<br
class="">
Internal
storage of
cell voltages
and
temperatures.<br
class="">
Tracking of
when all
voltages and
temperatures
have been set,
and these
should be
written to
metrics (as a
transaction).<br
class="">
Standardised
command to
display on
terminal (like
?xts bms?).<br
class="">
Web interface
extensions
(including the
charting you
have, a
textual
display, etc).<br
class="">
<br class="">
I can handle
all of the
above, except
the web
interface.
What do you
think? Can
these be
standardised?
Certainly for
Tesla Roadster
and Tesla
Model S they
appear to be
able to be
unified under
one standard
framework.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards, Mark.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">On 8
Nov 2018, at
6:49 AM,
Michael Balzer
<a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" moz-do-not-send="true"><dexter@expeedo.de></a>
wrote:<br
class="">
<br class="">
Mark,<br
class="">
<br class="">
1) yes, we're
approaching a
generic form
now. The chart
currently
displays
actual, min
& max
values from
the arrays,
and derives
the overall
average value.
It
automatically
adapts to the
number of
voltages and
temperatures
stored in the
arrays.<br
class="">
<br class="">
It still
lacks:<br
class="">
a) Displaying
max
deviations,
current
standard
deviation and
max standard
deviation
recorded.<br
class="">
b) Displaying
cell/module
warn &
alert status.
These are
currently set
metrics on the
Twizy, could
better be
generalized as
arrays as
well, i.e.
0=normal,
1=warn,
2=alert.<br
class="">
c) SOH /
capacity and
internal
resistance
should be
generally
available per
cell as well
(no data on
these yet on
the Twizy).<br
class="">
<br class="">
And as this
will visually
overload the
chart it will
need some
buttons to
show/hide the
parts.<br
class="">
<br class="">
A general
vehicle base
support for
these metrics
could
automatically
keep min &
max values,
calculate
deviations and
derive
warn/alert
status from
these. So
basically a
vehicle
adapter only
needs to
provide
voltages and
temperatures
(+ SOH and
internal
resistance as
available).
The reset
command then
can also
normally just
be a
generalized
version.<br
class="">
<br class="">
2) I should
add some basic
documentation
on this to the
developer
manual
(lacking
time). For the
RE tools I've
got an API to
inject
arbitrary data
into the
websocket
stream on my
todo list, so
live updates
can be
transported
without
polling.<br
class="">
<br class="">
4) Interesting
idea, similar
to a reverse
proxy. As the
channel will
be very slow
we will need
to reduce the
websocket
update
frequency,
make it
configurable
or maybe
auto-adapt to
the current
speed. Also,
the proxy
should cache
static assets
to speed up
first time
connects.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The v2
protocol using
RC4 encryption
is a bad base
for this.
What's the
current
encryption on
v3/MQTT?<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br
class="">
Michael<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">Am
07.11.18 um
01:50 schrieb
Mark
Webb-Johnson:<br
class="">
Some
questions/comments:<br
class="">
<br class="">
I guess this
is fairly
generic.
Voltages and
temperatures,
with possibly
a different
number of
readings for
each. Model S
has two
temperatures,
but I guess we
can just treat
those as
interleaved.
Could it be
put into a
reusable
component? Or
could we have
standard
metrics for
this now
(battery
module
voltages and
temperatures)?
Maybe a single
component that
does all this
(functions to
set individual
voltages and
temperatures,
define the
layout for
display,
include web
interface for
chart and
table, etc)?<br
class="">
<br class="">
I really need
to look at
integration of
extensions to
the web
interface. See
how that is
done. For my
work on DBC
and RE tools,
it seems
easiest to
just create a
web interface
(rather than
messing around
with command
line).<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regarding the
registration
of commands
and metrics, I
am not sure if
that is done
correctly at
the moment. In
particular in
the case a
vehicle module
is loaded,
unloaded, then
loaded again.
It seems that
RegisterCommand doesn?t do it right, and the metric object creation
needs a guard
to make sure
the metric
doesn?t
already exist.
I will try to
tidy this up
in Model S
code, as a
reference,
before moving
on to
Roadster.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I really
haven?t used
the web
interface
much, as it is
not available
over cellular.
I was
wondering if
it could be
encapsulated
somehow within
the v2/v3
protocol, and
made available
via the
server?
Something like
<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://api.openvehicles.com:8080/VEHICLEID"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://api.openvehicles.com:8080/VEHICLEID</a>
<a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://api.openvehicles.com:8080/VEHICLEID"
moz-do-not-send="true"><https://api.openvehicles.com:8080/VEHICLEID></a>
tunnelled
through (with
authentication
at the server
level using
the normal web
server user
account).
Similarly for
SSH access.
These are both
simple tcp/ip
connections,
so presumably
could be
injected into
mongoose as
fake
connections.
One possible
approach would
be SOCKS, and
there is some
reference code
for LWIP <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://github.com/russdill/lwip/commit/dfeba616"
moz-do-not-send="true"><https://github.com/russdill/lwip/commit/dfeba616></a>.
Another is
TUN/TAP, again
with reference
code for LWIP
<a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="https://github.com/russdill/lwip/commit/47ca42f8"
moz-do-not-send="true"><https://github.com/russdill/lwip/commit/47ca42f8></a>.
And then there
is the
standard PPP
(although that
would
technically
then be PPP
within tcp/ip
over PPP
within async
within GSM,
which is a bit
freaky).<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards, Mark.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote
type="cite"
class="">On 7
Nov 2018, at
4:52 AM,
Michael Balzer
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Mark, Tam?s,<br
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I've prepared
a more or less
generalized
array version
of my Twizy
battery chart
(OvmsVehicleRenaultTwizy::WebBattMon) for you. Easier to collect the
data from
actual arrays
than separate
metrics.<br
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This ZIP?<br
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?contains my
local ovms web
test/development folder. Unzip it into some local web server (needs to
be run via
http for
javascript),
then open the
folder from a
browser. You
should see an
OVMS web UI
lookalike.<br
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<br class="">
Config ?
CellChart
loads
"cellchart.htm".
The blue
button
generates and
injects test
data. Should
look like
this:<br
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<br class="">
<eoibkbnkbpofdlab.png><br class="">
<br class="">
Assuming
you'll add
some min/max
records as
well I left
that code
including the
reset button
in there. If
you can't
provide that
yet, you can
simply set min
& max =
act in the
get_xxx_data
functions.
Other than
that you
should
basically just
need to change
the metrics
names.<br
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To generate
C/C++ syntax
from the file,
use the script
bin/mksrc:
"bin/mksrc
cellchart.htm
>cellchart.cpp". The chart init URL needs to be changed for the
production
environment
(see comment),
and the test
data generator
can be
removed. See
OvmsVehicleRenaultTwizy::WebBattMon for reference.<br class="">
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Maybe I should
add that stuff
to the
repository as
well?<br
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15:56 schrieb
Mark
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Nice. I just
implemented
this for Model
S using your
new metric
type.<br
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<br class="">
96 individual
brick voltages
for each of
the bricks,
plus two
temperatures
for each of
the 16
modules.<br
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Works well.<br
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Tam?s,<br
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I've been
creating
separate
metrics for
all cell
values on the
Twizy, but
that only has
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We discussed
this before, a
better
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introducing a
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class for
arrays. I have
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for you,
please pull.<br
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Usage example:<br
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OvmsMetricVector<float>* vf = new
OvmsMetricVector<float>("test.volts", SM_STALE_MIN, Volts);<br
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vf->SetElemValue(3, 1.23);<br class="">
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float
myvals[3] = {
5.5, 6.6, 7.7
};<br class="">
vf->SetElemValues(10, 3, myvals);<br class="">
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set, you get:<br
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OVMS# met lis
test<br
class="">
test.volts
0,0,0,1.23,0,0,0,0,0,0,5.5,6.6,7.7,0,0,0,0,2.34V<br
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?and in the
web framework:<br
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metrics["test.volts"]<br class="">
(18) [0, 0, 0,
1.23, 0, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 5.5,
6.6, 7.7, 0,
0, 0, 0, 2.34]<br
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metrics["test.volts"][11]<br class="">
6.6<br
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definition in
ovms_metrics.h
for more.<br
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I have a
Peugeot iOn,
and i wan't to
create own
metrics for
battery temp
(66 piece) and
voltage (88
(old) or
80(new) piece)
for all cell
(and show on
web
interface),
and i don't
understand how
can i create
it. Now my
data in
array-s from
can messages
6E1-6E4.<br
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