<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The order I suggested was loosely based on trying to maintain connectivity (even if a module is causing a crash). I’ve put the least used modules (or those not related to connectivity) at the bottom of the list, and the most critical modules (but hopefully most reliable) at the top.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Currently, Server V3 should be at the bottom, but I am hoping it will improve in reliability. Perhaps it should be after SIMCOM for the moment.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The idea behind putting external 12v reasonable high (before vehicle) was (a) it is highly unlikely to cause us any issues, and (b) external displays may provide status and other indications useful to identify problems. It could probably swap with ‘vehicle’, without much impact.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Aug 2018, at 1:45 AM, Greg D. <<a href="mailto:gregd2350@gmail.com" class="">gregd2350@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Hi Mark,<br class="">
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The new proposal sounds like a good idea (in spite of putting
OBD2ECU at the bottom {sniff} ). If we someday get the ability to
configure the module from the Modem, would it be a good idea to move
SIMCOM up in the priority chain, to allow for remote repair if
either of the servers is causing the trouble? The V2 server has
been pretty stable for a long time, but I wonder about V3.<br class="">
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Curious why you put External 12v above OBD2ECU. I'd move 12v to the
bottom, so you don't turn on the external device until the server is
running. What else is dependent on the external 12v supply?<br class="">
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Last week’s 3.1.009 issue with Tesla Roadsters was interesting.
Looking at the car I saw with the problem, it was booting,
crashing when the vehicle module received a certain CAN bus
message (triggering the issue), and rebooting. It would do this 5
times, until it his the AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT count, and
then AutoInit inhibit would kick in, and it would end up sitting
idle with nothing loaded (and no network connection). The approach
worked very well, and prevented an endless reboot loop.
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<div class="">However, we ended up with a car unable to connect
to the network, and requiring a console cable and laptop to
recover. I’ve been thinking about bluetooth (which is intended
to provide a smartphone connection irrespective of wifi
configuration), how that might work with a completely
unconfigured module (for initial configuration), and I can
suggest a workaround to try to improve this…</div>
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<div class="">At the moment, the order of autoinit is:</div>
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<li class="">External 12V</li>
<li class="">Wifi</li>
<li class="">Modem SIMCOM</li>
<li class="">Vehicle</li>
<li class="">OBD2ECU</li>
<li class="">Server V2</li>
<li class="">Server V3</li>
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<div class="">None of those run if the early crash count >
AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT (coded as a constant 5).</div>
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<div class="">My suggestion is to change this as follows:</div>
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<li class="">Wifi</li>
<li class="">Bluetooth</li>
<li class="">Server V2</li>
<li class="">Server V3</li>
<li class="">Modem SIMCOM</li>
<li class="">External 12V</li>
<li class="">Vehicle</li>
<li class="">ODB2ECU</li>
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<div class="">But also to change that logic that:</div>
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<li class="">#8 will start if early crash count >
AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT</li>
<li class="">#7 will start if early crash count >
AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT+1</li>
<li class="">#6 will start if early crash count >
AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT+2</li>
<li class="">etc.</li>
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<div class="">This will mean that once we hit the
AUTO_INIT_INHIBIT_CRASHCOUNT limit, we turn off the least
required module (OBD2ECU), then continue to see if that solves
the problem. If not (ie; we crash and reboot), then we try
turning off the Vehicle module and OBD2ECU, then continue to see
if that solves the problem. etc.</div>
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<div class="">In the example case of the Tesla Roadster vehicle
module causing the issue, this revised approach would leave us
up and running with Wifi and a Server Connection (but no vehicle
data). Checking the module would identify the problem quite
quickly (and remotely). Starting the vehicle module manually
would presumably result in a crash and we would pretty quickly
get an idea of the cause (especially if we added a command to
show the status of AutoInit, what was started, and what wasn’t
because it is causing a crash). I think we could even issue an
Alert notification in the case where autoinit recovered after
inhibiting certain modules (but not all).</div>
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<div class="">The disadvantage is that we would crash more (up to
13 times, vs 5) in the case the system is badly messed up.</div>
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<div class="">What do people think? Does this make sense?</div>
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