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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">OK, so it's not in my python
      environment (I recently upgraded to openSuSE 15).<br>
      <br>
      It seems to happen only on single lines, consecutive lines are
      shown correctly.<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Michael<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Am 09.07.2018 um 04:34 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br>
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      Works for me, and the tonight’s edge nightly build will feature
      this.
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      <div class="">Only issue I am seeing is that Espressif seemed to
        have messed up the crlf handling on ‘make monitor’ again. The
        ‘make simple_monitor’ works fine, but for the full monitor
        terminal emulator, the CRLF issued by our console (when you
        press ENTER) is lost. Just seems to end up as a CR (LF
        discarded).</div>
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      <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
        <div><br class="">
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            <div class="">On 9 Jul 2018, at 6:14 AM, Michael Balzer <<a
                href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Sorry, no
                user feedback up to now on the wifi issues. As I don't
                have them myself, I need to wait for feedback. But no
                news means it's at least not worse than before ;)<br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                Anyway, I've pushed the changes and esp-idf update.<br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                @all: you need to update your esp-idf to build the
                current version:<br class="">
                <ul class="">
                  <li class=""><tt class="">cd $IDF_PATH</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt></li>
                  <li class=""><tt class="">git pull</tt></li>
                  <li class=""><tt class="">git submodule update
                      --recursive</tt><br class="">
                  </li>
                </ul>
                <br class="">
                Regards,<br class="">
                Michael<br class="">
                <br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.07.2018 um 10:59
                  schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
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                    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">I
                      even have some more free IRAM now, it used to be
                      down to ~1K and is now ~7K.</div>
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                  </div>
                  That is very very good news. Using RELEASE build
                  (rather than DEBUG), I got mine down to a usable
                  level, but this should give us some breathing room.
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                  <div class="">Any noticeable improvement to the wifi
                    issues?</div>
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                  </div>
                  <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
                    <div class=""><br class="">
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                        <div class="">On 8 Jul 2018, at 4:49 PM, Michael
                          Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                            class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
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                            The new esp-idf works good, I think I'll
                            push the changes this evening.<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            I even have some more free IRAM now, it used
                            to be down to ~1K and is now ~7K.<br
                              class="">
                            <br class="">
                            Remaining crashes recorded up to now:<br
                              class="">
                            <ul class="">
                              <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge
                                  (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul
                                  6 2018
                                  20:49:00),7,Crash,8,14,1,0,IllegalInstruction,0,0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                                  0x00000000 0x00000000 ,</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                                </tt></li>
                              <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_0/edge
                                  (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul
                                  6 2018
                                  20:49:00),98,Crash,8,14,1,0,LoadProhibited,1,0x401165fc
                                  0x00060230 0x80106004 0x3fff0d40
                                  0x3ffc4794 0x00000000 0x3f4020ac
                                  0x3fff1080 0x3fff1060 0x00000008
                                  0x3ffed634 0x00000000 0x00000001
                                  0x3ffc41f5 0x000000ff 0x0000ff00
                                  0x00ff0000 0xff000000 0x00000004
                                  0x0000001c 0x00000064 0x4009ee01
                                  0x4009ee11 0xffffffff ,0x401165fc
                                  0x40106001 0x400d3f9b 0x400d3ab5</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">→<br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">Using elf file:
                                  tmp/3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty-elf/ovms3.elf</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">0x401165fc is in
                                  _vfprintf_r
                                  (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c:1855).</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">0x40106001 is in
                                  _siprintf_r
                                  (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/siprintf.c:124).</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">0x400d3f9b is in
                                  std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
                                  std::char_traits<char>,
                                  std::allocator<char>
                                  >::_M_construct<char*>(char*,
                                  char*, std::forward_iterator_tag)
(/home/balzer/esp/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.tcc:215).</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">210         
                                  basic_string<_CharT, _Traits,
                                  _Alloc>::</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">211         
                                  _M_construct(_InIterator __beg,
                                  _InIterator __end,</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">212              
                                  std::forward_iterator_tag)</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">213          {</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">214        // NB: Not
                                  required, but considered best
                                  practice.</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">215        if
                                  (__gnu_cxx::__is_null_pointer(__beg)
                                  && __beg != __end)</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">216         
                                  std::__throw_logic_error(__N("basic_string::"</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">217                   
                                         "_M_construct null not
                                  valid"));</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">218    </tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">219        size_type
                                  __dnew =
                                  static_cast<size_type>(std::distance(__beg,
                                  __end));</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">0x400d3ab5 is in
                                  canlog::LogStatus(canbus*,
                                  CAN_LogEntry_t, CAN_status_t const*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/can/src/canlog.cpp:297).</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">292        return;</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">293      if
                                  (CheckFilter(bus, type))</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">294        {</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">295       
                                  CAN_LogMsg_t msg;</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">296       
                                  msg.timestamp = esp_log_timestamp();</tt><tt
                                  class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">297        msg.bus =
                                  bus;</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">298        msg.type =
                                  type;</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">299        msg.status
                                  = *status;</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">300       
                                  m_msgcount++;</tt><tt class=""><br
                                    class="">
                                </tt><tt class="">301        if
                                  (xQueueSend(m_queue, &msg, 0) !=
                                  pdTRUE)</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                </tt></li>
                              <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge
                                  (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul
                                  6 2018
                                  20:49:00),11,Crash,12,12,3,0,abort(),0,,0x40095e74
                                  0x4009606f 0x400ddaf7 0x40084e15
                                  0x401e271d<br class="">
                                  → watchdog timeout, no more info<br
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                            </ul>
                            Regards,<br class="">
                            Michael<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.07.2018
                              um 22:07 schrieb Michael Balzer:<br
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                              I've been using APCLIENT all the time and
                              only had one crash that looked like a wifi
                              problem. This really is a very specific
                              problem. I also have a very good wifi
                              signal, I can perfectly use my module's
                              web UI while the car is in my garage two
                              floors below. But I live in an uncrowded
                              area, not much wifi competition.<br
                                class="">
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                              I have updated my esp-idf to the latest
                              upstream master (it's v3.2 now) and could
                              build without any memory issues. The wifi
                              driver now, besided loads of bug fixes,
                              also supports CSI. Our code only needs a
                              minor adjustment if you'd like to compile
                              yourself, add…<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <tt class="">#define _SOC_SPI_PERIPH_H_ //
                                don't include spi_periph.h (type
                                conflict)</tt><br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              …in <tt class="">components/spinodma/spi_master_nodma.h</tt>
                              before <tt class="">#include
                                "driver/spi_common.h"</tt>.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              If you don't want to compile, the new
                              build (with CSI enabled) is also on my
                              server:<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                href="http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/</a><br
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                              …and now being installed by my beta
                              testers.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Regards,<br class="">
                              Michael<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.07.2018
                                um 16:28 schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br
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                                <div class="">My 2c:</div>
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                                </div>
                                For the access points I normally use, it
                                works 100% of the time for me. The only
                                issue I had was when the SSID password
                                was wrong on one of my access points
                                (sharing the same SSID) and that was
                                randomly causing me connection issues
                                (every time the ESP32 picked it).
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                                  <div class="">I also don’t use
                                    APCLIENT, and only use SCLIENT mode.
                                    I’ve found APCLIENT to be buggy as
                                    hell.</div>
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                                </div>
                                <div class="">But, I do have problems
                                  connecting to some access points. In
                                  particular phone hotspots. I suspect
                                  either bugs in the wifi stack, or some
                                  issue with channels.</div>
                                <div class=""><br class="">
                                </div>
                                <div class="">The only thing I am wary
                                  of is that our current code does this:</div>
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                                  <div class="">esp_wifi_set_config…</div>
                                  <div class="">esp_wifi_start…</div>
                                  <div class="">esp_wifi_connect...</div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">But the Espressif
                                    examples have:</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                </div>
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                                  <div class="">
                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="">esp_wifi_set_config…</div>
                                      <div class="">esp_wifi_start…</div>
                                      <div class="">Wait
                                        for SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START</div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
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                                    <div class="">
                                      <div class="">
                                        <div class="">esp_wifi_connect...</div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </blockquote>
                                <div class="">
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">I had that working the
                                    Espressif way in my big wifi
                                    refactor that never made it to
                                    production. But our current code
                                    doesn’t wait for the
                                    SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START before
                                    calling esp_wifi_connect.</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
                                  <div class=""><br class="">
                                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                                      <div class="">On 6 Jul 2018, at
                                        9:04 PM, Michael Balzer <<a
                                          href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de"
                                          class=""
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                                        wrote:</div>
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                                        <div class="">I've had similar
                                          reports regarding poor wifi
                                          connectivity, and this seems
                                          to affect some modules more
                                          than others (or may be
                                          channel/frequency dependant?).
                                          One<br class="">
                                          user has just 1-2 bars AP wifi
                                          signal with the module placed
                                          ~ 50 cm away from the phone.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          I also still get reports of
                                          spurious strange crashes, that
                                          mostly seem to be related to
                                          situations with poor wifi
                                          signal. Some crash backtraces
                                          just are<br class="">
                                          complete blank / null, and
                                          there is no crash report on
                                          the USB output for these
                                          before reboot.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Yesterday, Frank tried to
                                          perform some wifi scans. The
                                          first scan went fine, the
                                          second never returned, he had
                                          to power off the module. After
                                          reboot, all<br class="">
                                          successive scans worked.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Two users reported they
                                          occasionally cannot auth to
                                          the OVMS AP with the correct
                                          password, and they can then
                                          reconnect just by retrying for
                                          some minutes or by<br class="">
                                          connecting & disconnecting
                                          another client to the AP.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          I already had a look at the
                                          wifi tx power configuration,
                                          it's at 100% by default.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          This all feels like a) we need
                                          to change something about the
                                          antenna, and b) there are
                                          quite some bugs in the wifi
                                          blob.<br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Looking at <a
                                            href="https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master"
                                            class=""
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master</a>
                                          it seems there have been
                                          numerous wifi blob fixes
                                          lately. Last time I checked I
                                          still was<br class="">
                                          out of memory with the current
                                          esp-idf, I'll check again.<br
                                            class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          Regards,<br class="">
                                          Michael<br class="">
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                                          Am 06.07.2018 um 01:48 schrieb
                                          Stephen Casner:<br class="">
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                                            class="">I find the wifi
                                            performance of OVMS v3 to be
                                            poor, and I'm wondering<br
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                                            how it might be improved.  I
                                            have a mix of thoughts here.<br
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                                            For both my own unit and
                                            that of Timothy Rodgers,
                                            wifi reception in<br
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                                            our garages was unusable.
                                             You can blame that on too
                                            much distance<br class="">
                                            from the access point, but
                                            my iPhone and MacBook both
                                            access the wifi<br class="">
                                            just fine from my garage.
                                             The wifi antenna in the
                                            OVMS is probably<br class="">
                                            smaller and its location
                                            within the metal framework
                                            around the car's<br class="">
                                            firewall may impede radio
                                            transmission.  Perhaps it
                                            would be feasible<br
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                                            to switch to an
                                            ESP32-WROVER-I with an
                                            external antenna to improve<br
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                                            performance, but that would
                                            be a big deal.  If there is
                                            a transmit<br class="">
                                            power adjustment, perhaps
                                            that could be increased?<br
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                                            When Timothy parks his car
                                            next to his house, which is
                                            about 50 feet<br class="">
                                            closer than the garage, then
                                            the wifi reception was good
                                            enough for<br class="">
                                            the update to 3.1.008 to
                                            succeed.  But when he tries
                                            to connect with<br class="">
                                            the browser, page updates
                                            often time out, so it is
                                            close to unusable.<br
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                                            Perhaps we could improve
                                            usability by increasing the
                                            timeout in our<br class="">
                                            javascript to allow more
                                            time for TCP to retransmit?<br
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                                            For my own unit, I switched
                                            from AP+client to just
                                            client mode and at<br
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                                            first it seemed that had
                                            improved the client
                                            performance.  But still<br
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                                            the next day I had no access
                                            from the iPhone app.  When I
                                            connected to<br class="">
                                            the console to find out why
                                            I saw that server v2 was
                                            repeatedly trying<br
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                                            to connect and failing.  I'm
                                            presuming that the cause was
                                            poor wifi<br class="">
                                            connectivity since I was
                                            also not able to reach the
                                            web server on the<br
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                                            client address, although I
                                            have not proven that.  But
                                            since the client<br class="">
                                            wifi was associated with the
                                            home AP and had an address,
                                            the OVMS<br class="">
                                            network routing preferred
                                            the wifi and did not try to
                                            use the modem.<br class="">
                                            For now I have resorted to
                                            turning off wifi.  I suggest
                                            that the<br class="">
                                            network routing algorithm be
                                            enhanced to back off to use
                                            the modem if<br class="">
                                            some number of attempts to
                                            connect to the server over
                                            wifi have<br class="">
                                            failed.  The iPhone will do
                                            this for itself (there is a
                                            setting to<br class="">
                                            enable this called Wi-Fi
                                            Assist).<br class="">
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                                            The behavior of repeated
                                            connection attempts and
                                            failures by server v2<br
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                                            seems to induce a more
                                            serious failure after a
                                            while, perhaps due to<br
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                                            some resource starvation.
                                             At that point there is a
                                            failure message<br class="">
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                                            address"<br class="">
                                            every time server v2 tries
                                            to connect.  I expect that
                                            is a bug that<br class="">
                                            could be fixed.<br class="">
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                                            Lastly, since we may
                                            encounter situations where
                                            network communication<br
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                                            is not working, we should
                                            facilitate access to the
                                            console.  When I<br class="">
                                            was trying to help Timothy
                                            change a location radius
                                            setting remotely<br class="">
                                            by phone and the web browser
                                            was timing out, I suggested
                                            that he find<br class="">
                                            a micro-USB cable so he
                                            could connect to the
                                            console.  But then I<br
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                                            realized he would not have
                                            any application on his
                                            laptop that would<br
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                                            allow him to connect to the
                                            console.  Developers use
                                            "make monitor" in<br
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                                            the software development
                                            cycle, but users won't have
                                            that tool.  I<br class="">
                                            have my own program on the
                                            MacBook that I use as an
                                            alternative when I<br
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                                            don't want to induce a reset
                                            when I connect.  But is
                                            there a simple<br class="">
                                            program for Windows suitable
                                            for non-developer users that
                                            can connect<br class="">
                                            to the OVMS console?<br
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