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    Sorry, no user feedback up to now on the wifi issues. As I don't
    have them myself, I need to wait for feedback. But no news means
    it's at least not worse than before ;)<br>
    <br>
    Anyway, I've pushed the changes and esp-idf update.<br>
    <br>
    @all: you need to update your esp-idf to build the current version:<br>
    <ul>
      <li><tt>cd $IDF_PATH</tt><tt><br>
        </tt></li>
      <li><tt>git pull</tt></li>
      <li><tt>git submodule update --recursive</tt><br>
      </li>
    </ul>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 08.07.2018 um 10:59 schrieb Mark
      Webb-Johnson:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:1CFD2EB7-42D8-4070-8DB4-FEECFC16684C@webb-johnson.net">
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        <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">I even have some
          more free IRAM now, it used to be down to ~1K and is now ~7K.</div>
      </blockquote>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      That is very very good news. Using RELEASE build (rather than
      DEBUG), I got mine down to a usable level, but this should give us
      some breathing room.
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Any noticeable improvement to the wifi issues?</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
        <div><br class="">
          <blockquote type="cite" class="">
            <div class="">On 8 Jul 2018, at 4:49 PM, Michael Balzer <<a
                href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> The new
                esp-idf works good, I think I'll push the changes this
                evening.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                I even have some more free IRAM now, it used to be down
                to ~1K and is now ~7K.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                Remaining crashes recorded up to now:<br class="">
                <ul class="">
                  <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge
                      (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018
                      20:49:00),7,Crash,8,14,1,0,IllegalInstruction,0,0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
                      0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 ,</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                    </tt></li>
                  <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_0/edge
                      (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018
                      20:49:00),98,Crash,8,14,1,0,LoadProhibited,1,0x401165fc
                      0x00060230 0x80106004 0x3fff0d40 0x3ffc4794
                      0x00000000 0x3f4020ac 0x3fff1080 0x3fff1060
                      0x00000008 0x3ffed634 0x00000000 0x00000001
                      0x3ffc41f5 0x000000ff 0x0000ff00 0x00ff0000
                      0xff000000 0x00000004 0x0000001c 0x00000064
                      0x4009ee01 0x4009ee11 0xffffffff ,0x401165fc
                      0x40106001 0x400d3f9b 0x400d3ab5</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">→<br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">Using elf file:
                      tmp/3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty-elf/ovms3.elf</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">0x401165fc is in _vfprintf_r
                      (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c:1855).</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">0x40106001 is in _siprintf_r
                      (../../../.././newlib/libc/stdio/siprintf.c:124).</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">0x400d3f9b is in
                      std::__cxx11::basic_string<char,
                      std::char_traits<char>,
                      std::allocator<char>
                      >::_M_construct<char*>(char*, char*,
                      std::forward_iterator_tag)
(/home/balzer/esp/xtensa-esp32-elf/xtensa-esp32-elf/include/c++/5.2.0/bits/basic_string.tcc:215).</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">210         
                      basic_string<_CharT, _Traits, _Alloc>::</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">211         
                      _M_construct(_InIterator __beg, _InIterator __end,</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">212              
                      std::forward_iterator_tag)</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">213          {</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">214        // NB: Not required,
                      but considered best practice.</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">215        if
                      (__gnu_cxx::__is_null_pointer(__beg) &&
                      __beg != __end)</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">216         
                      std::__throw_logic_error(__N("basic_string::"</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">217                          
                      "_M_construct null not valid"));</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">218    </tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">219        size_type __dnew =
                      static_cast<size_type>(std::distance(__beg,
                      __end));</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">0x400d3ab5 is in
                      canlog::LogStatus(canbus*, CAN_LogEntry_t,
                      CAN_status_t const*)
(/home/balzer/esp/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/vehicle/OVMS.V3/components/can/src/canlog.cpp:297).</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">292        return;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">293      if (CheckFilter(bus,
                      type))</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">294        {</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">295        CAN_LogMsg_t msg;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">296        msg.timestamp =
                      esp_log_timestamp();</tt><tt class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">297        msg.bus = bus;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">298        msg.type = type;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">299        msg.status = *status;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">300        m_msgcount++;</tt><tt
                      class=""><br class="">
                    </tt><tt class="">301        if (xQueueSend(m_queue,
                      &msg, 0) != pdTRUE)</tt><tt class=""><br
                        class="">
                      <br class="">
                    </tt></li>
                  <li class=""><tt class="">3.1.008-32-g2fa3ab8-dirty/ota_1/edge
                      (build idf v3.2-dev-168-g0fb2019f Jul 6 2018
                      20:49:00),11,Crash,12,12,3,0,abort(),0,,0x40095e74
                      0x4009606f 0x400ddaf7 0x40084e15 0x401e271d<br
                        class="">
                      → watchdog timeout, no more info<br class="">
                    </tt></li>
                </ul>
                Regards,<br class="">
                Michael<br class="">
                <br class="">
                <br class="">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.07.2018 um 22:07
                  schrieb Michael Balzer:<br class="">
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite"
                  cite="mid:27d5eae3-8bfe-ea5b-565b-d3f1b02206c3@expeedo.de"
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                  I've been using APCLIENT all the time and only had one
                  crash that looked like a wifi problem. This really is
                  a very specific problem. I also have a very good wifi
                  signal, I can perfectly use my module's web UI while
                  the car is in my garage two floors below. But I live
                  in an uncrowded area, not much wifi competition.<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  I have updated my esp-idf to the latest upstream
                  master (it's v3.2 now) and could build without any
                  memory issues. The wifi driver now, besided loads of
                  bug fixes, also supports CSI. Our code only needs a
                  minor adjustment if you'd like to compile yourself,
                  add…<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <tt class="">#define _SOC_SPI_PERIPH_H_ // don't
                    include spi_periph.h (type conflict)</tt><br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  …in <tt class="">components/spinodma/spi_master_nodma.h</tt>
                  before <tt class="">#include "driver/spi_common.h"</tt>.<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  If you don't want to compile, the new build (with CSI
                  enabled) is also on my server:<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                    href="http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://ovms.dexters-web.de/firmware/ota/v3.1/edge/</a><br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  …and now being installed by my beta testers.<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Regards,<br class="">
                  Michael<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.07.2018 um 16:28
                    schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite"
                    cite="mid:62B5183F-67C4-4F40-898F-75DB5165B162@webb-johnson.net"
                    class="">
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                    <div class="">My 2c:</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    For the access points I normally use, it works 100%
                    of the time for me. The only issue I had was when
                    the SSID password was wrong on one of my access
                    points (sharing the same SSID) and that was randomly
                    causing me connection issues (every time the ESP32
                    picked it).
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">
                      <div class="">I also don’t use APCLIENT, and only
                        use SCLIENT mode. I’ve found APCLIENT to be
                        buggy as hell.</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">But, I do have problems connecting to
                      some access points. In particular phone hotspots.
                      I suspect either bugs in the wifi stack, or some
                      issue with channels.</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <div class="">The only thing I am wary of is that
                      our current code does this:</div>
                    <div class=""><br class="">
                    </div>
                    <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none;
                      padding: 0px;" class="">
                      <div class="">esp_wifi_set_config…</div>
                      <div class="">esp_wifi_start…</div>
                      <div class="">esp_wifi_connect...</div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div class="">
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">But the Espressif examples have:</div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                    </div>
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                      padding: 0px;" class="">
                      <div class="">
                        <div class="">
                          <div class="">esp_wifi_set_config…</div>
                          <div class="">esp_wifi_start…</div>
                          <div class="">Wait for SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START</div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none;
                      padding: 0px;" class="">
                      <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border:
                        none; padding: 0px;" class="">
                        <div class="">
                          <div class="">
                            <div class="">esp_wifi_connect...</div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div class="">
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">I had that working the Espressif way
                        in my big wifi refactor that never made it to
                        production. But our current code doesn’t wait
                        for the SYSTEM_EVENT_STA_START before calling
                        esp_wifi_connect.</div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                      </div>
                      <div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
                          <div class="">On 6 Jul 2018, at 9:04 PM,
                            Michael Balzer <<a
                              href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
                              moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
                            wrote:</div>
                          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                          <div class="">
                            <div class="">I've had similar reports
                              regarding poor wifi connectivity, and this
                              seems to affect some modules more than
                              others (or may be channel/frequency
                              dependant?). One<br class="">
                              user has just 1-2 bars AP wifi signal with
                              the module placed ~ 50 cm away from the
                              phone.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I also still get reports of spurious
                              strange crashes, that mostly seem to be
                              related to situations with poor wifi
                              signal. Some crash backtraces just are<br
                                class="">
                              complete blank / null, and there is no
                              crash report on the USB output for these
                              before reboot.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Yesterday, Frank tried to perform some
                              wifi scans. The first scan went fine, the
                              second never returned, he had to power off
                              the module. After reboot, all<br class="">
                              successive scans worked.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Two users reported they occasionally
                              cannot auth to the OVMS AP with the
                              correct password, and they can then
                              reconnect just by retrying for some
                              minutes or by<br class="">
                              connecting & disconnecting another
                              client to the AP.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I already had a look at the wifi tx power
                              configuration, it's at 100% by default.<br
                                class="">
                              <br class="">
                              This all feels like a) we need to change
                              something about the antenna, and b) there
                              are quite some bugs in the wifi blob.<br
                                class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Looking at <a
                                href="https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master"
                                class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/espressif/esp32-wifi-lib/commits/master</a>
                              it seems there have been numerous wifi
                              blob fixes lately. Last time I checked I
                              still was<br class="">
                              out of memory with the current esp-idf,
                              I'll check again.<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Regards,<br class="">
                              Michael<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Am 06.07.2018 um 01:48 schrieb Stephen
                              Casner:<br class="">
                              <blockquote type="cite" class="">I find
                                the wifi performance of OVMS v3 to be
                                poor, and I'm wondering<br class="">
                                how it might be improved.  I have a mix
                                of thoughts here.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                For both my own unit and that of Timothy
                                Rodgers, wifi reception in<br class="">
                                our garages was unusable.  You can blame
                                that on too much distance<br class="">
                                from the access point, but my iPhone and
                                MacBook both access the wifi<br class="">
                                just fine from my garage.  The wifi
                                antenna in the OVMS is probably<br
                                  class="">
                                smaller and its location within the
                                metal framework around the car's<br
                                  class="">
                                firewall may impede radio transmission.
                                 Perhaps it would be feasible<br
                                  class="">
                                to switch to an ESP32-WROVER-I with an
                                external antenna to improve<br class="">
                                performance, but that would be a big
                                deal.  If there is a transmit<br
                                  class="">
                                power adjustment, perhaps that could be
                                increased?<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                When Timothy parks his car next to his
                                house, which is about 50 feet<br
                                  class="">
                                closer than the garage, then the wifi
                                reception was good enough for<br
                                  class="">
                                the update to 3.1.008 to succeed.  But
                                when he tries to connect with<br
                                  class="">
                                the browser, page updates often time
                                out, so it is close to unusable.<br
                                  class="">
                                Perhaps we could improve usability by
                                increasing the timeout in our<br
                                  class="">
                                javascript to allow more time for TCP to
                                retransmit?<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                For my own unit, I switched from
                                AP+client to just client mode and at<br
                                  class="">
                                first it seemed that had improved the
                                client performance.  But still<br
                                  class="">
                                the next day I had no access from the
                                iPhone app.  When I connected to<br
                                  class="">
                                the console to find out why I saw that
                                server v2 was repeatedly trying<br
                                  class="">
                                to connect and failing.  I'm presuming
                                that the cause was poor wifi<br class="">
                                connectivity since I was also not able
                                to reach the web server on the<br
                                  class="">
                                client address, although I have not
                                proven that.  But since the client<br
                                  class="">
                                wifi was associated with the home AP and
                                had an address, the OVMS<br class="">
                                network routing preferred the wifi and
                                did not try to use the modem.<br
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                                For now I have resorted to turning off
                                wifi.  I suggest that the<br class="">
                                network routing algorithm be enhanced to
                                back off to use the modem if<br class="">
                                some number of attempts to connect to
                                the server over wifi have<br class="">
                                failed.  The iPhone will do this for
                                itself (there is a setting to<br
                                  class="">
                                enable this called Wi-Fi Assist).<br
                                  class="">
                                <br class="">
                                The behavior of repeated connection
                                attempts and failures by server v2<br
                                  class="">
                                seems to induce a more serious failure
                                after a while, perhaps due to<br
                                  class="">
                                some resource starvation.  At that point
                                there is a failure message<br class="">
                                "mg_connect(<a
                                  href="http://api.openvehicles.com:6867/"
                                  class="" moz-do-not-send="true">api.openvehicles.com:6867</a>)
                                failed: cannot parse address"<br
                                  class="">
                                every time server v2 tries to connect.
                                 I expect that is a bug that<br class="">
                                could be fixed.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Lastly, since we may encounter
                                situations where network communication<br
                                  class="">
                                is not working, we should facilitate
                                access to the console.  When I<br
                                  class="">
                                was trying to help Timothy change a
                                location radius setting remotely<br
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                                by phone and the web browser was timing
                                out, I suggested that he find<br
                                  class="">
                                a micro-USB cable so he could connect to
                                the console.  But then I<br class="">
                                realized he would not have any
                                application on his laptop that would<br
                                  class="">
                                allow him to connect to the console.
                                 Developers use "make monitor" in<br
                                  class="">
                                the software development cycle, but
                                users won't have that tool.  I<br
                                  class="">
                                have my own program on the MacBook that
                                I use as an alternative when I<br
                                  class="">
                                don't want to induce a reset when I
                                connect.  But is there a simple<br
                                  class="">
                                program for Windows suitable for
                                non-developer users that can connect<br
                                  class="">
                                to the OVMS console?<br class="">
                                <br class="">
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