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    Would this structure have helped in finding the ota issue? I mean,
    are there any developers updating ota from the "edge" releases
    instead of building themselves?<br>
    <br>
    Up to now I followed the approach of testing locally and only
    releasing to "edge" what works on my module, as "edge" is what beta
    testers are updating from now.<br>
    <br>
    If there are developers that update ota:<br>
    <br>
    The new structure means beta testers need to change their setup. I
    suggest introducing a "nightly" for developers instead, placed
    before "edge".<br>
    <br>
    To harmonize "edge" releases, I also need to know which commits are
    moved into "edge" then. Up to now we used the "3.1.xxx" version
    tagging for main releases, you seem to have changed this now with
    "3.1.008", as the tag is already set but the server still has
    3.1.006 in the "main" directory.<br>
    <br>
    I suggest sticking to the main version tagging as before, as Github
    uses these to create "releases"
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/releases">https://github.com/openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System-3/releases</a>),
    and adding "3.1.xxx-n-hhhhhh" tags for the "edge" releases.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.06.2018 um 03:14 schrieb Mark
      Webb-Johnson:<br>
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      To try to avoid a repeat of the 3.1.007 issue with OTA updates,
      I’ve set things up as below:
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          <li class="">edge: Bleeding edge developer, built
            automatically each night with 3.1.XXX-N-HHHHHH style
            versioning</li>
          <li class="">eap: Early Access Program pre-releases, usually
            with 3.1.XXX style versioning</li>
          <li class="">main: Stable releases that have completed testing
            in EAP, with 3.1.XXX style versioning.</li>
        </ul>
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      <div class="">Before moving things edge -> eap, I’ll have a
        checklist of regression tests to run (including ota update).
        Other functional problems should have been picked up by
        developer cars while in ‘edge’ release. I suggest to leave a
        particular build in ‘edge’ for a week, to make sure no problems
        reported to those early real-world testers, before moving to
        ‘main’.</div>
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      <div class="">I have an automated nightly build script that runs
        at 4pm UTC (midnight HKT). That pulls the latest masters for
        esp-idf and ovms firmware, then builds as appropriate. If there
        is something to build (something in git changed), it does it
        automatically and produces an email summary like this:</div>
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        <div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
              style="font-size: 14px;" class="">Subject: OVMS Nightly
              Firmware Build 3.1.008-13-g272697e</span></font></div>
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              style="font-size: 14px;" class=""><br class="">
            </span></font></div>
        <div class=""><font class="" face="Andale Mono"><span
              style="font-size: 14px;" class="">3.1.008-13-g272697e<br
                class="">
              Thu Jun 28 00:57:19 UTC 2018 Automated build (markhk8)<br
                class="">
              <br class="">
              Total sizes:<br class="">
              DRAM .data size:   17116 bytes<br class="">
              DRAM .bss  size:   33536 bytes<br class="">
              Used static DRAM:   50652 bytes ( 130084 available, 28.0%
              used)<br class="">
              Used static IRAM:  102096 bytes (  28976 available, 77.9%
              used)<br class="">
                   Flash code: 1279002 bytes<br class="">
                 Flash rodata:  598168 bytes<br class="">
              Total image size:~1996382 bytes (.bin may be padded
              larger)<br class="">
              <br class="">
              * 272697e (HEAD, origin/master, origin/HEAD, master)
              Twizy: no sufficient level info on charge done<br class="">
              * 8497d9f Web dashboard: range display min/max exchanged<br
                class="">
              * 5d8f96d Webserver: fix u64 alignment<br class="">
              * 5363ab8 TeslaRoadster: Vehicle cooldown command and
              implementation<br class="">
              * bf3b0d5 TeslaRoadster: Digital Speedo implementation<br
                class="">
              * d0221bf TeslaRoadster: Refuse to lock a car that is ON<br
                class="">
              * 7179600 Update project status files<br class="">
              * b3bef78 TeslaRoadster: Digital Speedo implementation<br
                class="">
              * cfbd297 TeslaRoadster: Vehicle cooldown command and
              implementation<br class="">
              * ec4bc37 Add VehicleModeKey helper function</span></font></div>
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      <div class="">At the moment, that summary comes to me. Is there
        any use sending it to the ovmsdev mailing list?</div>
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      <div class="">With developer cars set to ‘edge’, and automatically
        updating each night, hopefully with this three stage process we
        can pickup on problems before they hit the main stable trunk.</div>
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      <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
        <div><br class="">
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            <div class="">On 17 Apr 2018, at 4:35 AM, Michael Balzer
              <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> "alpha" /
                "beta" imply some underlying development & release
                plan, i.e. a list of features to be reached for the
                "release" version.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                "stable" and "nightly" are also used, but "nightly"
                implies a fixed schedule -- I'd rather have the option
                to update manually several times a day --, and "stable"
                implies some sort of quality check / warranty, which we
                also cannot provide.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                So I think "main" and "edge" are appropriate.<br
                  class="">
                <br class="">
                Regards,<br class="">
                Michael<br class="">
                <br class="">
                <br class="">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.04.2018 um 03:46
                  schrieb Mark Webb-Johnson:<br class="">
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                  Another point perhaps missed is that these are really
                  release tags, not necessarily developer release
                  stages. So, for example, say we were working on a
                  branch with a major re-write called v4.x, we could
                  create a ‘v4x’ branch (or whatever) and release ota
                  updates to it. Modules subscribing to that tag would
                  get those updates.
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                  <div class="">I guess we could address that with
                    v3-beta, v3-alpha, v4-alpha, etc.</div>
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                  <div class="">Regards, Mark</div>
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                        <div class="">On 16 Apr 2018, at 9:40 AM, Mark
                          Webb-Johnson <<a
                            href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" class=""
                            moz-do-not-send="true">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>
                          wrote:</div>
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                            after-white-space;" class="">The original
                            idea was to have these as release tags that
                            users could subscribe to. The factory
                            firmware we have has everyone as ‘main’, so
                            that one is hard to change.
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                            <div class="">I did consider ‘alpha’, but it
                              just looked strange to me.</div>
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                            <div class="">The idea is that ‘edge’ will
                              be an automated (at least) nightly build.</div>
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                            <div class="">I think there is room for one
                              more like Tesla’s ‘early access program’
                              (pre-release candidates that should be
                              stable but have not had widescale
                              testing). So, my overall suggestion is for
                              something like:</div>
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                            <div class="">
                              <ul class="MailOutline">
                                <li class="">main</li>
                                <li class="">eap</li>
                                <li class="">edge</li>
                              </ul>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">Steve’s alternative would be:</div>
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                            <div class="">
                              <ul class="MailOutline">
                                <li class="">main</li>
                                <li class="">beta</li>
                                <li class="">alpha</li>
                              </ul>
                            </div>
                            <div class=""><br class="">
                            </div>
                            <div class="">Other than ‘main’, these are
                              simple to change. Happy to go with the
                              consensus...</div>
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                            <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
                              <div class=""><br class="">
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                                  <div class="">On 16 Apr 2018, at 9:26
                                    AM, Stephen Casner <<a
                                      href="mailto:casner@acm.org"
                                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">casner@acm.org</a>>
                                    wrote:</div>
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                                    <div class="">On Mon, 16 Apr 2018,
                                      Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br
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                                      <blockquote type="cite" class="">From
                                        now on, I’m going to be
                                        maintaining two tags for the
                                        production<br class="">
                                        ota server <a
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                                        <<a
                                          href="http://api.openvehicles.com/"
                                          class=""
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">http://api.openvehicles.com/</a>>.
                                        These<br class="">
                                        are:<br class="">
                                        <br class="">
                                        main: for stable releases<br
                                          class="">
                                        edge: for bleeding edge
                                        developer releases<br class="">
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                                      Why not the "standard" terms
                                      release (or stable), beta, alpha?<br
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