<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The pinouts are correct, and I think a left-version is fine. Either way, it is easy to turn the OBD-port around if needed, or install a splitter-cable.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Geir<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">15. jun. 2018 kl. 02:06 skrev Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" class="">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’ve got this question raised as a ‘support’ ticket:<div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><a href="https://www.openvehicles.com/node/2045" class="">https://www.openvehicles.com/node/2045</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0.8em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "Open Sans", Arial, "Century gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Hi,</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0.8em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "Open Sans", Arial, "Century gothic", sans-serif;" class="">in some forums is a discussion which cable is needed for the Kia Soul EV?<br class="">There should be a difference between OBD-C to DB9 and OBD-M to DB9.</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0.8em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "Open Sans", Arial, "Century gothic", sans-serif;" class="">I hope you can tell us whcih one is the right one.</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0.8em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "Open Sans", Arial, "Century gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Thx!</div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 0.8em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 13px; vertical-align: baseline; caret-color: rgb(85, 85, 85); color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "Open Sans", Arial, "Century gothic", sans-serif;" class="">Chriss</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looking at the current code for kia soul, it seems that both the M and C buses are used, so a custom cable is definitely required? Is this the correct pinout:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><u class="" style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;">Pinout KS</u><br class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">6 7 CAN-H (primary CAN)</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">14 2 CAN-L (primary CAN)</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">1 5 CAN-H (alternate CAN)</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">9 4 CAN-L (alternate CAN)</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power</span><br class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font><span style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;" class="">J1962 end should be MALE plug with angle cable. DB9 end should be FEMALE.</span><br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;">Both ends should be enclosed in shells, and cable should be 1metre in length.</span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: "Andale Mono"; font-size: 16px;">J1962 end should be “LEFT” style:</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span id="cid:767CFFD0-2ABB-4A04-AD59-3860382F4B16"><1139300-2.jpg></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is that correct? Shall I go ahead and order these?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Jan 2018, at 9:09 PM, Jason Perkins <<a href="mailto:perkins.jason@gmail.com" class="">perkins.jason@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On the Fiat the OBD connector is "upside down" and faces forward, I've not investigated turning it over. A cable opposite the one pictured above, with a left edit, would be better. The cable would go to the middle of the cabin and be tied up behind the trim.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Image borrowed from the forums: </div><div class=""><span id="cid:ii_160ff08aca93d8a9" class=""><image.png></span><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:geir@validalo.net" target="_blank" class="">geir@validalo.net</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">The pinout is correct. The right or left is a though question as I don’t know what people prefer, however the obd2 can easily be turned on the Soul. What about the Fiat, Jason?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="">Geir <br class=""><br class=""><div id="m_6140526416252688550AppleMailSignature" class="">Sendt fra min iPhone</div></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class="">16. jan. 2018 kl. 05:06 skrev Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank" class="">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="">I’ve been dealing with the same custom cable provider since 2012. He’s very flexible, fast, and very reliable (especially for OBDII style cables). He delivers direct to Fasttech, and we don’t even bother with QC any more - he has been 100% perfect for the past five years. All we do is a visual inspection and stock count on receipt. MOQ (50) is usually the only issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Pinouts we have in the past produced for OVMS OBDII cables:<div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class=""><u class="">Pinout A (both left-hand and right-hand right-angled have been produced)</u><br class=""><br class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal<br class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND<br class="">6 7 CAN-H<br class="">14 2 CAN-L<br class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power<br class=""><br class="">J1962 end should be MALE plug with right angle cable. DB9 end should be FEMALE.<br class=""></span></font><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">Both ends should be enclosed in shells, and cable should be 1metre in length.</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><u class=""><br class=""></u></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><u class="">Pinout B (left hand right-angle)</u></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><span style="font-size:16px" class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal<br class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND<br class="">13 7 CAN-H<br class="">12 2 CAN-L<br class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power</span></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class="">J1962 end should be MALE plug with angle cable. DB9 end should be FEMALE.</font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class="">Both ends should be enclosed in shells, and cable should be 1metre in length.</font></div></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:Calibri" class=""><font face="Andale Mono" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Andale Mono" style="font-size:16px" class=""><u class="">Pinout C </u><u class="">(both left-hand and right-hand right-angled have been produced)</u><br class=""><br class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal<br class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND<br class="">6 7 CAN-H (primary CAN)<br class="">14 2 CAN-L (primary CAN)<br class="">13 5 CAN-H (alternate CAN)<br class="">12 4 CAN-L (alternate CAN)<br class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power<br class=""><br class="">J1962 end should be MALE plug with angle cable. DB9 end should be FEMALE.<br class="">Both ends should be enclosed in shells, and cable should be 1metre in length.</font></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Pinout B was obsoleted in late 2016 and replaced with C. So, currently we have A and C variants.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">From my understanding, what you need is:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><u style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">Pinout D</u><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">6 7 CAN-H (primary CAN)</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">14 2 CAN-L (primary CAN)</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">1 5 CAN-H (alternate CAN)</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">9 4 CAN-L (alternate CAN)</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">J1962 end should be MALE plug with angle cable. DB9 end should be FEMALE.</span><br style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class=""><span style="font-family:"Andale Mono";font-size:16px" class="">Both ends should be enclosed in shells, and cable should be 1metre in length.</span></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Would that be in a left or right hand orientation?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div class="">Right: <PastedGraphic-1.tiff></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Jan 2018, at 1:39 AM, Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <<a href="mailto:geir@validalo.net" target="_blank" class="">geir@validalo.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_6140526416252688550Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Since we’re closing in on the release date, what should we do regarding the cable for the Kia Soul and Fiat 500e? I have yet to find anything really useful on the M-bus, but who knows what might come later.<div class="">Jason, how about the Fiat 500e? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyone know the pinouts for Hyundai Ioniq OBD2-port? Maybe it can use the same cable too? I couldn’t find the pinouts for that car anywhere…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Geir</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">13. des. 2017 kl. 01:53 skrev Mark Webb-Johnson <<a href="mailto:mark@openvehicles.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@openvehicles.com</a>>:</div><br class="m_6140526416252688550Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class="">Relatively easy. I just give them pinouts, some money, and a week later a bunch of cables arrive.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is a minimum order quantity of 50 cables from the supplier, so it has to be justifiable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps best to have a look at that M-can bus (with a hand-built cable), and see if there is anything on it that makes this worthwhile. You can find OBDII pigtails on AliExpress/eBay/Amazon that make this relatively simple (only need to solder the DB9 end).<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 13 Dec 2017, at 4:09 AM, Geir Øyvind Vælidalo <<a href="mailto:geir@validalo.net" target="_blank" class="">geir@validalo.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_6140526416252688550Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We might need a special cable for the Kia Soul EV, as it has two CAN-buses on the diagnostic port and it doesn’t match the ODB2-cable nor the Nissan Leaf-cable.</div><div class="">Then C-can uses the standard pins 6 and 14, but the M-can uses pins 1 (high) and 9 (low). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The M-can should be mapped to CAN1_H (Pin 5 on DB9) and CAN1_L(Pin 4 on DB9):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><pre class=""><font face="Courier New" class="">J1962-M DB9-F Signal
</font><pre class=""><span style="font-family:"Courier New"" class="">1 5 CAN-1H (M-can High)</span></pre></pre><pre class=""><font face="Courier New" class="">4 3 Chassis/Power GND</font></pre><pre class=""><font face="Courier New" class="">6 7 CAN-0H (C-can high)</font></pre><pre class=""><font face="Courier New" class="">9 4 CAN-1L (M-can Low)</font></pre><pre class=""><span style="font-family:"Courier New"" class="">14 2 CAN-0L (C-can low)</span></pre><pre class=""><span style="font-family:"Courier New"" class="">16 9 +12V Vehicle Power</span></pre><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="">I don’t use the M-can at the moment, and I’m not sure I will, but if I do we might need to have a special cable made for the Soul EV. </div><div class=""><div class="">Is that something that is easy to fix?</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Geir </div></div>______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk" target="_blank" class="">OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.teslaclub.hk/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk" target="_blank" class="">OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.teslaclub.hk/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk" target="_blank" class="">OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.teslaclub.hk/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________</span><br class=""><span class="">OvmsDev mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk" target="_blank" class="">OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.teslaclub.hk/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">
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