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    Greg,<br>
    <br>
    so you did get it to work on Android 7 & 8? Or was it just the
    ZeroConf App that showed the mDNS registry info?<br>
    <br>
    ZeroConf shows the device on my Android phone (7) and tablet (6) as
    well, but both are unable to resolve the host name in all other
    Apps. Have you installed something along with the App or done some
    additional config?<br>
    <br>
    Without a moduleid, the mDNS hostname defaults to "ovms.local",
    which is of course much easier to type than an IP address. We need
    to mention both options in the user guide, but we could recommend
    first trying "ovms.local" for the platforms supporting ZeroConf.<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Michael<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.03.2018 um 05:28 schrieb Greg D.:<br>
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      Ha!  Change what I said... Must not have waited long enough.  As
      you did, simply joining the AP, the 'Service Browser' app
      eventually did discover the module at 192.168.4.1, with my car's
      ID.  The 'ZeroConf Browser' app had a problem with it (said there
      was something there, but no information).  This on both my phone
      (Android 8.1) and tablet (Android 7.0).<br>
      <br>
      Of course, since my phone got a 192.168.4.2 IP Address, it wasn't
      too hard to guess where the module was.<br>
      <br>
      Greg<br>
      <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br>
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        It does work on my iOS devices.
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        <div class="">For the module in my car, I’m currently using an
          iPad. I join the Access Point, then ssh to
          <vehicleid>.local. Web browsing to that address works as
          well.</div>
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        <div class="">Regards, Mark.<br class="">
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              <div class="">On 7 Mar 2018, at 10:29 AM, Greg D. <<a
                  href="mailto:gregd2350@gmail.com" class=""
                  moz-do-not-send="true">gregd2350@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:</div>
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                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Yeah,
                  probably more complicated and proprietary than we
                  need.  Just need to put 192.168.4.1 in the manual,
                  after all.  Done.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Greg<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br
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                    From my understanding, Zeroconf / mDNS rely on a
                    pre-existing IP network. They don’t address the wifi
                    side of things at all.
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                    <div class="">There are some approaches to dealing
                      with simplifying wifi configuration (involving
                      flashing lights, bluetooth adverts, etc), but they
                      are all proprietary. Espressif has one called
                      ESP-TOUCH (aka Smart Config):</div>
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                      <div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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                          <div class="">On 7 Mar 2018, at 7:24 AM, Greg
                            D. <<a href="mailto:gregd2350@gmail.com"
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                            wrote:</div>
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                            <div class="">Hi Michael,<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I trying to figure out how Zeroconf is
                              supposed to work, given the<br class="">
                              networking services that the module
                              currently supports.  Perhaps I don't<br
                                class="">
                              understand mDNS well enough, but don't we
                              need some means to broadcast<br class="">
                              our presence, separate from the network?<br
                                class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I was able to run the ZeroConf Browser on
                              my Android phone (Google<br class="">
                              Pixel2, latest code), and it did discover
                              the module.  But that was only<br class="">
                              when the module and phone were both
                              connected by wifi to the home<br class="">
                              network.  When it was running in AP mode,
                              with the phone connected to<br class="">
                              the home network, there is no way for the
                              phone to see the mDNS service<br class="">
                              announcement packets. <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I did a wireless trace of the wifi
                              beacons, thinking it might be<br class="">
                              broadcast in there, but didn't find
                              anything service-oriented other than<br
                                class="">
                              the usual stuff.  The only wifi adapter
                              that I could get to cooperate<br class="">
                              with me today was a really old one
                              (11b-only), so perhaps there's<br class="">
                              something at an 11g/n level that I can't
                              see? <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              I'm thinking we need some out-of-band
                              channel for the broadcasts, for<br
                                class="">
                              example, Bluetooth.  Isn't there a service
                              there for this purpose?  How<br class="">
                              is this supposed to work? <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Greg<br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              <br class="">
                              Michael Balzer wrote:<br class="">
                              <blockquote type="cite" class="">Zeroconf
                                / mDNS allows to address the module
                                using the name "<moduleid>.local",
                                but is not supported on all systems. It
                                should work on iOS, but I can't test<br
                                  class="">
                                that. It doesn't work on Android 7, so
                                is not usable as a general solution.<br
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