<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">From my understanding, Zeroconf / mDNS rely on a pre-existing IP network. They don’t address the wifi side of things at all.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are some approaches to dealing with simplifying wifi configuration (involving flashing lights, bluetooth adverts, etc), but they are all proprietary. Espressif has one called ESP-TOUCH (aka Smart Config):</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><a href="https://www.espressif.com/en/products/software/esp-touch/overview" class="">https://www.espressif.com/en/products/software/esp-touch/overview</a></div></blockquote><div class=""><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards, Mark.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Mar 2018, at 7:24 AM, Greg D. <<a href="mailto:gregd2350@gmail.com" class="">gregd2350@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi Michael,<br class=""><br class="">I trying to figure out how Zeroconf is supposed to work, given the<br class="">networking services that the module currently supports. Perhaps I don't<br class="">understand mDNS well enough, but don't we need some means to broadcast<br class="">our presence, separate from the network?<br class=""><br class="">I was able to run the ZeroConf Browser on my Android phone (Google<br class="">Pixel2, latest code), and it did discover the module. But that was only<br class="">when the module and phone were both connected by wifi to the home<br class="">network. When it was running in AP mode, with the phone connected to<br class="">the home network, there is no way for the phone to see the mDNS service<br class="">announcement packets. <br class=""><br class="">I did a wireless trace of the wifi beacons, thinking it might be<br class="">broadcast in there, but didn't find anything service-oriented other than<br class="">the usual stuff. The only wifi adapter that I could get to cooperate<br class="">with me today was a really old one (11b-only), so perhaps there's<br class="">something at an 11g/n level that I can't see? <br class=""><br class="">I'm thinking we need some out-of-band channel for the broadcasts, for<br class="">example, Bluetooth. Isn't there a service there for this purpose? How<br class="">is this supposed to work? <br class=""><br class="">Greg<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Michael Balzer wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Zeroconf / mDNS allows to address the module using the name "<moduleid>.local", but is not supported on all systems. It should work on iOS, but I can't test<br class="">that. It doesn't work on Android 7, so is not usable as a general solution.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">OvmsDev mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk" class="">OvmsDev@lists.teslaclub.hk</a><br class="">http://lists.teslaclub.hk/mailman/listinfo/ovmsdev<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>