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    Yeah, probably more complicated and proprietary than we need.  Just
    need to put 192.168.4.1 in the manual, after all.  Done.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br>
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      From my understanding, Zeroconf / mDNS rely on a pre-existing IP
      network. They don’t address the wifi side of things at all.
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      <div class="">There are some approaches to dealing with
        simplifying wifi configuration (involving flashing lights,
        bluetooth adverts, etc), but they are all proprietary. Espressif
        has one called ESP-TOUCH (aka Smart Config):</div>
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        <div>Regards, Mark.</div>
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              <div class="">Hi Michael,<br class="">
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                I trying to figure out how Zeroconf is supposed to work,
                given the<br class="">
                networking services that the module currently supports.
                 Perhaps I don't<br class="">
                understand mDNS well enough, but don't we need some
                means to broadcast<br class="">
                our presence, separate from the network?<br class="">
                <br class="">
                I was able to run the ZeroConf Browser on my Android
                phone (Google<br class="">
                Pixel2, latest code), and it did discover the module.
                 But that was only<br class="">
                when the module and phone were both connected by wifi to
                the home<br class="">
                network.  When it was running in AP mode, with the phone
                connected to<br class="">
                the home network, there is no way for the phone to see
                the mDNS service<br class="">
                announcement packets. <br class="">
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                I did a wireless trace of the wifi beacons, thinking it
                might be<br class="">
                broadcast in there, but didn't find anything
                service-oriented other than<br class="">
                the usual stuff.  The only wifi adapter that I could get
                to cooperate<br class="">
                with me today was a really old one (11b-only), so
                perhaps there's<br class="">
                something at an 11g/n level that I can't see? <br
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                I'm thinking we need some out-of-band channel for the
                broadcasts, for<br class="">
                example, Bluetooth.  Isn't there a service there for
                this purpose?  How<br class="">
                is this supposed to work? <br class="">
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                Greg<br class="">
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                Michael Balzer wrote:<br class="">
                <blockquote type="cite" class="">Zeroconf / mDNS allows
                  to address the module using the name
                  "<moduleid>.local", but is not supported on all
                  systems. It should work on iOS, but I can't test<br
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                  that. It doesn't work on Android 7, so is not usable
                  as a general solution.<br class="">
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