<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">Guenther,</span><br><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px">What I meant by my post is that the 500e is not OBDII compliant at a software level - a "generic" scan tool won't talk to it. The underhood emissions sticker confirms this. The Leaf is similar. Teslas have a "fake" J1962 plug that will report the car's VIN, but not much else. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px">Regarding scan tools for the 500e, that's why I have AlfaOBD. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px">I've ordered some Arduino parts, so we should have some captures from the telematics system soon!</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:16px">-J</span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:51 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>What was the wrong information?</div><div><br></div><div>It would be helpful if you could be specific and provide clarification.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards, Mark</div><span class=""><div><br>On 8 Jan 2018, at 11:56 PM, Guenther Huck <<a href="mailto:privat@guentherhuck.at" target="_blank">privat@guentherhuck.at</a>> wrote:<br><br></div></span><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>I got your message about the 500e too and I must tell you, please do
not post wrong information about the Fiat 500e.</div>
<div>The 500e of course have CAN Bus messages on OBDII. You have CAN BUS C (500
K) and CAN Bus B (50 K). The only problem is , like on all vehicles CAN Bus
Systems , that there is no public dbc.file.</div>
<div>I am working on it and as soon as possible i will roll out on <a href="http://fiat500e.eu" target="_blank">http://fiat500e.eu</a><br><br>Guenther</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="perkins.jason@gmail.com" href="mailto:perkins.jason@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jason Perkins</a> </div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [Ovmsdev] Collecting information on the Fiat
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<div>As an owner of a Fiat 500e I was very interested when I stumbled across
this project on the TMC forums. <span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">The</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px"> </span><span class="m_-3746294104460419466gmail-il" style="FONT-SIZE:12px">Fiat</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px"> </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">factory
telematics system deactivates 3 years from the original vehicle sale and is non
renewable. I think FCA wants to kill the whole system at this point (it's been
replaced with the corporate UConnect system) so another solution would be ideal.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12px">I have a 2013 500e with deactivated telematics, and
our roommate has a 2014 with working telematics. If any data could be captured
from the car with working telematics (branded as <span class="m_-3746294104460419466gmail-il">Fiat</span> Access) to assist integrating OVMS I'd love to help.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12px">The <span class="m_-3746294104460419466gmail-il">Fiat</span> Access
telematics provides vehicle location, battery level, tire pressure, setting the
charge schedules, locking / unlocking the car, and starting the climate control.
I believe the actual control unit was adapted from some kind of
remote-disablement system used in europe (the Fiat literature calls this the
Vehicle Tracking Module). </div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:12px"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">The </span><span class="m_-3746294104460419466gmail-il" style="FONT-SIZE:12px">Fiat</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">
has a normal J1962 plug, but does not have OBDII protocol support. Like the Kia
Soul the powertrain CAN on pin 6 / 14 and the body CAN on 1 / 9.
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">There's no telling how long the telematics
will keep working on our roommates '14, so doing a capture sooner than later
would be good. I'm open to any suggestions on how best to do this. The car
related diag tools I have on hand are: ELM327 Bluetooth, Ross-Tech VCDS (For VW
/ Audi Products), and AlfaOBD (which can talk to most of the modules in the 500e
- but not the VTM :( ), and an adapter to swap the CAN wires so a standard
interface can get to the Body CAN. </span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">Thanks!</span></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px">-J</span></div>
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