<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Rough requirements list:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ol class="MailOutline"><li class="">Cross platform iOS and Android. Windows, OSX, etc, a bonus but not strictly required.</li><li class="">Open source friendly</li><li class="">Dynamic widget layout support</li><li class="">Push notifications (cross platform library preferable)</li><li class="">MQTT over websockets</li><li class="">Bluetooth BLE (cross platform library preferable)</li><li class="">Access to native APIs and frameworks (Apple Watch, Android Intents, etc)</li></ol></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve used <a href="http://monaca.io" class="">monaca.io</a> for one project, but really not impressed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Received three recommendations from a friend in the industry, and here are my comments:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class="">Ionic<br class="">Interesting. Only drawback seems to be not so open source friendly (or are they just trying to push paid developer accounts?). Good library support (including BLE). Seems to be cordova++.<br class=""><br class=""></li><li class="">React Native<br class="">Seemed very promising. I tried to get it working for 2 hours, on latest OSX, without success. Seems to require very specific versions of npm/nodejs. Frustrating.<br class=""><br class=""></li><li class="">xamarin<br class="">Very impressive. But C# and Microsoft? 😱 It looks really really good, but feels like selling your soul to the devil?</li></ul><div><br class=""></div><div>Opinions?</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Regards, Mark.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Jan 2018, at 3:29 AM, Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" class="">dexter@expeedo.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Kivy looks promising, but doesn't seem to be that much
cross-platform yet.<br class="">
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From what I've read so far, Kivy could cover the user interface and
upper protocol layer.<br class="">
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It doesn't seem to provide cross-platform solutions for background
services, push notifications, widgets and scripting integration yet.
Most(?) of these things seem to be possible, but require platform
specific code.<br class="">
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Regarding the UI, Kivy also does not seem to have a decent charting
library yet, so this also would still need platform specific code.<br class="">
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It seems -- from the docs and web -- Cordova is more mature
regarding these aspects?<br class="">
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Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.01.2018 um 10:54 schrieb Andreas
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<div class="">Kivy is a great framework for cross-platform development
for Android, iOS, Linux, Windows and OSX: <a href="https://kivy.org/#home" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://kivy.org/#home</a><br class="">
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Some examples/projects using Kivy for car extension boxes:<br class="">
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- <a href="https://www.autosportlabs.com/racecapture_mk3_apex/" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://www.autosportlabs.com/racecapture_mk3_apex/</a><br class="">
- <a href="https://github.com/Joelzeller/CoPilot" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://github.com/Joelzeller/CoPilot</a><br class="">
- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv72m2w7gl0" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv72m2w7gl0</a><br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-01-04 1:26 GMT+00:00 Mark
Webb-Johnson <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mark@webb-johnson.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">mark@webb-johnson.net</a>></span>:<br class="">
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Long-term,
we need to think of a better way of doing this. Maintaining
two different apps with two different feature sets is far
from ideal.<br class="">
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To date, I haven’t found a cross-platform development tool
I’m happy with. Any recommendations for ones people have
experience with would be appreciated. OVMS v3 should make
things a bit simpler (MQTT over web sockets, and there are a
bunch of libraries to do this - including a bunch in
javascript).<br class="">
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> On 4 Jan 2018, at 12:51 AM, Michael Balzer <<a href="mailto:dexter@expeedo.de" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">dexter@expeedo.de</a>>
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> Geir, please make a list of what you've added, I
can take a look at porting that to the Android App. But
I need to get up to feature parity on the Twizy part
first.<br class="">
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> Robert, I don't know if you realized the Android
App now has a scripting API.<br class="">
> You can add whatever features you're missing
yourself and even make your own widgets.<br class="">
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> It needs just basic scripting skills, check out the
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> Regards,<br class="">
> Michael<br class="">
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> Am 03.01.2018 um 17:14 schrieb Robert Cotran:<br class="">
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>> The additions you made to the OVMS iOS app
sound awesome, do you think you'll port them to the
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> Am 03.01.2018 um 17:40 schrieb Geir Øyvind
Vælidalo:<br class="">
>> I think someone else have to port my changes to
Android. If the additions are worthy :-D<br class="">
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