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Robert,<br>
<br>
I don't know about the 12V battery system on the Kia -- if the aux
battery is small, the OVMS may have brought the battery down.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">ground connection soldered to a couple pins</blockquote>
=> you could also check your soldering.<br>
<br>
The OVMS App displays the supply voltage on the vehicle info page,
and you can request it using the text command "DIAG".<br>
<br>
Btw: the current Android App allows to send text commands from the
notifications page.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Michael<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 05.11.2015 um 03:20 schrieb Robert
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Hi guys,<br>
<br>
So I just went out to the car to turn it on with the OVMS module
connected to see if that made a difference. As soon as I did so, a
cooling fan came on at the front of the vehicle and the dashboard
lit up with flashing lights and the message "Check vehicle EV
system", and something like "Stop driving and verify power
supply". Worried that it was the OVMS causing that, I unplugged
the OBDII plug and as soon as I did so, everything went back to
normal.<br>
<br>
Has anyone else experienced this?<br>
<br>
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<div class="">My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least
for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII.
Once the car is turned off, the module should continue to know
the last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at
some stage.</div>
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<div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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<br class="">
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car"
and getting very limited info. So far I can get the
location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as
2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS location.<br
class="">
<br class="">
However, I'm not getting any car specific information
such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or
state of charge. Could that be a problem with the
OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it
something else?<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely
off right? The OBDII port definitely gets power, but
I don't know if there is any other network traffic
when it's off.<br class="">
<br class="">
Is there a way for me to tap into the <a
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href="http://tmc.openvehicles.com" class="">tmc.openvehicles.com</a>
server with an API or something to see the raw
information the modules are sending it? How often do
the modules update the server?<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM,
Robert Cotran wrote:<br class="">
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I'm up and running!<br class="">
<br class="">
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went
out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM --
attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I
can talk to the car finally.<br class="">
<br class="">
PHEW!<br class="">
<br class="">
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I
really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS)
communications working in an ad hoc way because I
can't rely on text messages -- too expensive. I'll
do some reading about that.<br class="">
<br class="">
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific
functionality.<br class="">
<br class="">
Woohoo! this is awesome!<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
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Robert Cotran wrote:<br class="">
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OK so I had/have two problems:<br class="">
<br class="">
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the
ground input, so power wasn't getting to the board
properly hence the weird flashing lights. We
fixed that with a more solid ground connection
soldered to a couple pins.<br class="">
<br class="">
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the
board. I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT
INSERTED" for CPIN. With another cellular
provider's SIM, it did work. So now I have to
find a way to get this happening. I can only get
cheap data with my current provider, so I'm going
to hunt for an old SIM that might work.<br
class="">
<br class="">
So things are on pause until I'm able to do
that...<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM,
Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br class="">
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About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power
supply is fine.
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<div class="">Regards, Mark</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM,
Robert Cotran <<a
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class=""> Hi all,<br class="">
<br class="">
I will definitely hook up to the diag
port. I do have a USB-serial cable.
Thanks for that suggestion!<br
class="">
<br class="">
Does anyone know if one can power the
unit "on a bench" using a 12V
adapter? I read that the OBDII port
only gives out a max of 100mA, is that
true? If it is true, a small 12V
adapter should be fine...<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks!<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson
wrote:<br class="">
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The other thing to suggest is if you
have a USB-serial cable and a
laptop, you can plug into the DIAG
port at 9600baud, and have a look at
the messages from the modem. That
should tell you exactly what is
going on. But if you count the
blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then
reset then 10 then 9, it is most
likely the SIM connection.
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<div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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<div class="">On 2 Nov, 2015,
at 4:59 am, Robert Cotran
<<a
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Hi all again,<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm really not having any
luck here.<br class="">
<br class="">
I've tried three different
SIM cards now, and they
all do exactly the same
thing. I haven't read
anywhere about the red and
green lights being on
simultaneously and
flashing like crazy so I'm
really starting to suspect
that the hardware is
defective. I wish I had
another kit lying around.<br
class="">
<br class="">
The kit I have is from my
friend but it's brand new,
it has never been used in
a car before.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm wondering if I should
just order another kit to
see if the same thing
happens.<br class="">
<br class="">
I did have a question. If
I simply power the OBDII
port on the kit with 12V,
should it power up
normally? I could test
that...<br class="">
<br class="">
Geir, my car is in Canada,
so I don't have UVO
services unfortunately,
hence the reason I'd
really like to get this
going! I'm on the KIA
Soul EV forums, and once I
have this working, I'll
try to rope in someone in
the US who would be
willing to monitor their
CAN Bus so we can snoop
and try to copy the HVAC
calls.<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div
class="moz-cite-prefix">On
11/1/2015 12:09 PM,
Michael Balzer wrote:<br
class="">
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Rob,<br class="">
<br class="">
green 8 + red 4 = SIM
lock... I don't know how
a phone could use a
locked SIM for data, but
just try setting and
again removing the SIM
lock with the SIM
toolkit.<br class="">
<br class="">
Some (very few) SIMs
just don't work in the
OVMS, it's unlikely you
stumbled across two of
them.<br class="">
<br class="">
I once had the effect of
a flash process that
failed without any error
output, so you also
should try re-flashing.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Of course the hardware
can be broken too, i.e.
bad SIM slot soldering
causing data errors or
bad antenna connection.
As your module has been
used before (I assume?)
that's quite unlikely.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
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01.11.2015 um 17:40
schrieb Robert Cotran:<br
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Hi again,<br class="">
<br class="">
I tried the SIM card
in a cell phone.
Worked perfectly, got
data connection and
was able to download
data.<br class="">
<br class="">
I doubt it's locked,
it's brand new. The
phone didn't ask me
for a code.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I verified the
antennas are plugged
correctly.<br class="">
<br class="">
Can the OVMS kit be
defective? Does that
happen?<br class="">
<br class="">
Could the KIA firmware
specifically have
caused an issue? Then
again, Geir has it
working no problem.<br
class="">
<br class="">
:(<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div
class="moz-cite-prefix">On
11/1/2015 10:48 AM,
Michael Jochum
wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""><br
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</div>
<div class="">have
you tried the SIM
Card in an Cell
Phone? Did this
work?</div>
<div class="">Is the
Card locked with a
Pin code? OVMS
can't handle PIN
locked cards.</div>
<div class="">Do you
connect the
Antennas to their
right plugs?</div>
<div class=""><br
class="">
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<div class="">Bye</div>
<div class="">Michael</div>
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01.11.2015 um
16:13 schrieb
Robert Cotran
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all,<br
class="">
<br class="">
I'm happy to
see that it
looks like
development of
the Kia Soul
EV firmware is
going to
continue,
thanks to
Micheal and
Geir!<br
class="">
<br class="">
I went out and
bought a
dedicated SIM
for the OVMS
kit yesterday
and flashed
the OVMS with
0.2 of the Kia
Soul firmware
and I flashed
the EEPROM as
well since
this is a new
installation
and there's
nothing on the
kit yet.<br
class="">
<br class="">
It's still not
working
unfortunately.
When I plug it
into the car,
the red LED
comes on for a
few seconds,
then the red
and green
flash a bit,
and then they
both stay off
for about
10-15 seconds,
then the green
flashes 10
times, then 9
times, then I
think 8 or 9
times, and
then the red
LED flashes a
few times
while the
green is
flashing, and
then then both
start to flash
on and off
extremely
fast, so fast
that it looks
like they are
both on
solid. They
stay like this
for about 7 or
8 seconds, and
then it starts
all over again
from the 10, 9
on green.<br
class="">
<br class="">
I've followed
the Roadster
guide to
getting this
up and
running, I've
cleaned the
SIM contacts
and I've tried
two different
SIM cards, so
I'm a bit lost
as to what I
can try next.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Does anyone
have any
suggestions?<br
class="">
<br class="">
Thanks!<br
class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br
class="">
<br class="">
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10/31/2015
5:20 PM,
Michael Balzer
wrote:<br
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Welcome Robert
:-)<br
class="">
<br class="">
Basic setup of
the Kia
firmware is
the same as
for other
models. So you
can follow the
Roadster guide
or one of the
Twizy guides
first.<br
class="">
<br class="">
You wrote to
me you got the
module from a
friend, so you
should first
flash once
without
preserving
EEPROM to get
a clean config
to start with.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Follow Marks
link to the
support FAQ if
you get stuck
in the config
process. To
diag LED flash
codes, also
take a look at
the state
machine
diagram in the
main docs
folder. If you
need help,
describe
exactly (!)
which doc
you've been
following and
what you have
done so far.<br
class="">
<br class="">
If you're
stuck at
10/9... maybe
you should
first check if
the SIM card
has contact.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Kia V0.1 only
reads some
first status
messages and
obtains the
VIN if you
enable CAN
write access
(FEATURE 15
1). I've
currently got
one positive
and one
negative test
feedback for
this version.<br
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Would be great
if you could
also check
V0.2 -- it's
in my account
on github:<br
class="">
<a
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href="https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System">https://github.com/dexterbg/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System</a><br
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...hex:<br
class="">
<a
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href="http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip">http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip</a><br
class="">
<br class="">
This _should_
be able to
show some
first OBD diag
data dumps
(DEBUG 1 /
5)... as I
don't have a
Kia, I need
qualified beta
test feedback.<br
class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br
class="">
Michael<br
class="">
<br class="">
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31.10.2015 um
14:16 schrieb
Robert Cotran:<br
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all, <br
class="">
<br class="">
I'm replying
to Micheal
Balzer's email
from
yesterday. I
wasn't on the
mailing list
until late
yesterday
afternoon,
hence I'm not
able to click
reply. <br
class="">
<br class="">
I've got a Kia
Soul EV 2016
in Canada
which doesn't
have the UVO
services, so
this is of
great interest
to me. <br
class="">
<br class="">
I have the
OVMS kit in
front of me,
but I'm a
total newbie,
so I'm reading
through some
guides to get
started. <br
class="">
<br class="">
Just wanted to
say that I'll
gladly be the
guinea pig for
this. <br
class="">
<br class="">
What I'd
REALLY like is
to have a way
to remotely
turn on the
climate
control system
to warm
up/cool down
the car at
will.
Hopefully
that's a
remote
possibility.
Tracking it is
cool, but
controlling it
is even
better. I'm
used to a
Tesla (my
other car), so
I am quite
spoiled. <br
class="">
<br class="">
I did get
Micheal's
firmware
installed on
the OVMS and
hooked it up
to the car but
it's not
booting
properly
(based on
status LEDs).
Can that be
because of the
firmware or is
the bootup
sequence
separate from
the
car-control
code? <br
class="">
<br class="">
The LEDs flash
like - 10
Green, 9
Green, 10
Green, 9
Green, then a
few reds, then
green and red
flash together
really fast. <br
class="">
<br class="">
I tried
sending text
messages to
the board and
no dice. <br
class="">
<br class="">
Any help would
be
appreciated,
looking
forward to
getting this
working! <br
class="">
<br class="">
Robert <br
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