<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Rob,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII. Once the car is turned off, the module should continue to know the last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at some stage.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Nov, 2015, at 6:46 am, Robert Cotran <<a href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca" class="">robert@cotran.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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Hi guys,<br class="">
<br class="">
So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and getting
very limited info. So far I can get the location of the car and the
OVMS firmware version as 2.8.1/KS0.2/V2. I also get the GPS
location.<br class="">
<br class="">
However, I'm not getting any car specific information such as VIN
(yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or state of charge. Could
that be a problem with the OVMS firmware that Michael and Geir
wrote, or is it something else?<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off right? The
OBDII port definitely gets power, but I don't know if there is any
other network traffic when it's off.<br class="">
<br class="">
Is there a way for me to tap into the <a href="http://tmc.openvehicles.com" class="">tmc.openvehicles.com</a> server
with an API or something to see the raw information the modules are
sending it? How often do the modules update the server?<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM, Robert Cotran
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I'm up and running!<br class="">
<br class="">
The power is to the module is now stable, and I went out and got a
Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention Canadians, Bell SIMs do
NOT work), and I can talk to the car finally.<br class="">
<br class="">
PHEW!<br class="">
<br class="">
I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I really want to
figure out how to get data (GPRS) communications working in an ad
hoc way because I can't rely on text messages -- too expensive.
I'll do some reading about that.<br class="">
<br class="">
Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific
functionality.<br class="">
<br class="">
Woohoo! this is awesome!<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM, Robert Cotran
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OK so I had/have two problems:<br class="">
<br class="">
1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground input, so
power wasn't getting to the board properly hence the weird
flashing lights. We fixed that with a more solid ground
connection soldered to a couple pins.<br class="">
<br class="">
2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the board. I
hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT INSERTED" for CPIN.
With another cellular provider's SIM, it did work. So now I
have to find a way to get this happening. I can only get cheap
data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt for an old
SIM that might work.<br class="">
<br class="">
So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM, Mark
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About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.
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<div class="">Regards, Mark</div>
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all,<br class="">
<br class="">
I will definitely hook up to the diag port. I do
have a USB-serial cable. Thanks for that
suggestion!<br class="">
<br class="">
Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a
bench" using a 12V adapter? I read that the OBDII
port only gives out a max of 100mA, is that true?
If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks!<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/2015 9:25 PM,
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The other thing to suggest is if you have a
USB-serial cable and a laptop, you can plug into
the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a look at the
messages from the modem. That should tell you
exactly what is going on. But if you count the
blinks, and they go 10 then 9 then reset then 10
then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
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<div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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<br class="">
I'm really not having any luck here.<br class="">
<br class="">
I've tried three different SIM cards
now, and they all do exactly the same
thing. I haven't read anywhere about
the red and green lights being on
simultaneously and flashing like crazy
so I'm really starting to suspect that
the hardware is defective. I wish I had
another kit lying around.<br class="">
<br class="">
The kit I have is from my friend but
it's brand new, it has never been used
in a car before.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm wondering if I should just order
another kit to see if the same thing
happens.<br class="">
<br class="">
I did have a question. If I simply
power the OBDII port on the kit with
12V, should it power up normally? I
could test that...<br class="">
<br class="">
Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't
have UVO services unfortunately, hence
the reason I'd really like to get this
going! I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums,
and once I have this working, I'll try
to rope in someone in the US who would
be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so
we can snoop and try to copy the HVAC
calls.<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
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11/1/2015 12:09 PM, Michael Balzer
wrote:<br class="">
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Rob,<br class="">
<br class="">
green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't
know how a phone could use a locked
SIM for data, but just try setting and
again removing the SIM lock with the
SIM toolkit.<br class="">
<br class="">
Some (very few) SIMs just don't work
in the OVMS, it's unlikely you
stumbled across two of them.<br class="">
<br class="">
I once had the effect of a flash
process that failed without any error
output, so you also should try
re-flashing.<br class="">
<br class="">
Of course the hardware can be broken
too, i.e. bad SIM slot soldering
causing data errors or bad antenna
connection. As your module has been
used before (I assume?) that's quite
unlikely.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
01.11.2015 um 17:40 schrieb Robert
Cotran:<br class="">
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Hi again,<br class="">
<br class="">
I tried the SIM card in a cell
phone. Worked perfectly, got data
connection and was able to download
data.<br class="">
<br class="">
I doubt it's locked, it's brand
new. The phone didn't ask me for a
code.<br class="">
<br class="">
I verified the antennas are plugged
correctly.<br class="">
<br class="">
Can the OVMS kit be defective? Does
that happen?<br class="">
<br class="">
Could the KIA firmware specifically
have caused an issue? Then again,
Geir has it working no problem.<br class="">
<br class="">
:(<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
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11/1/2015 10:48 AM, Michael Jochum
wrote:<br class="">
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Hi,
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<div class="">have you tried the
SIM Card in an Cell Phone? Did
this work?</div>
<div class="">Is the Card locked
with a Pin code? OVMS can't
handle PIN locked cards.</div>
<div class="">Do you connect the
Antennas to their right plugs?</div>
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<div class="">Bye</div>
<div class="">Michael</div>
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um 16:13 schrieb Robert
Cotran <<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca">robert@cotran.ca</a>>:</div>
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Hi all,<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm happy to see that it
looks like development
of the Kia Soul EV
firmware is going to
continue, thanks to
Micheal and Geir!<br class="">
<br class="">
I went out and bought a
dedicated SIM for the
OVMS kit yesterday and
flashed the OVMS with
0.2 of the Kia Soul
firmware and I flashed
the EEPROM as well since
this is a new
installation and there's
nothing on the kit yet.<br class="">
<br class="">
It's still not working
unfortunately. When I
plug it into the car,
the red LED comes on for
a few seconds, then the
red and green flash a
bit, and then they both
stay off for about 10-15
seconds, then the green
flashes 10 times, then 9
times, then I think 8 or
9 times, and then the
red LED flashes a few
times while the green is
flashing, and then then
both start to flash on
and off extremely fast,
so fast that it looks
like they are both on
solid. They stay like
this for about 7 or 8
seconds, and then it
starts all over again
from the 10, 9 on green.<br class="">
<br class="">
I've followed the
Roadster guide to
getting this up and
running, I've cleaned
the SIM contacts and
I've tried two different
SIM cards, so I'm a bit
lost as to what I can
try next.<br class="">
<br class="">
Does anyone have any
suggestions?<br class="">
<br class="">
Thanks!<br class="">
<br class="">
Rob<br class="">
<br class="">
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Michael Balzer wrote:<br class="">
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Welcome Robert :-)<br class="">
<br class="">
Basic setup of the Kia
firmware is the same
as for other models.
So you can follow the
Roadster guide or one
of the Twizy guides
first.<br class="">
<br class="">
You wrote to me you
got the module from a
friend, so you should
first flash once
without preserving
EEPROM to get a clean
config to start with.<br class="">
<br class="">
Follow Marks link to
the support FAQ if you
get stuck in the
config process. To
diag LED flash codes,
also take a look at
the state machine
diagram in the main
docs folder. If you
need help, describe
exactly (!) which doc
you've been following
and what you have done
so far.<br class="">
<br class="">
If you're stuck at
10/9... maybe you
should first check if
the SIM card has
contact.<br class="">
<br class="">
Kia V0.1 only reads
some first status
messages and obtains
the VIN if you enable
CAN write access
(FEATURE 15 1). I've
currently got one
positive and one
negative test feedback
for this version.<br class="">
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Would be great if you
could also check V0.2
-- it's in my account
on github:<br class="">
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...hex:<br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip">http://dexters-web.de/f/kiasoul/OVMS-KiaSoul-0.2.zip</a><br class="">
<br class="">
This _should_ be able
to show some first OBD
diag data dumps (DEBUG
1 / 5)... as I don't
have a Kia, I need
qualified beta test
feedback.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Michael<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am
31.10.2015 um 14:16
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Cotran:<br class="">
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all, <br class="">
<br class="">
I'm replying to
Micheal Balzer's
email from
yesterday. I wasn't
on the mailing list
until late yesterday
afternoon, hence I'm
not able to click
reply. <br class="">
<br class="">
I've got a Kia Soul
EV 2016 in Canada
which doesn't have
the UVO services, so
this is of great
interest to me. <br class="">
<br class="">
I have the OVMS kit
in front of me, but
I'm a total newbie,
so I'm reading
through some guides
to get started. <br class="">
<br class="">
Just wanted to say
that I'll gladly be
the guinea pig for
this. <br class="">
<br class="">
What I'd REALLY like
is to have a way to
remotely turn on the
climate control
system to warm
up/cool down the car
at will. Hopefully
that's a remote
possibility.
Tracking it is cool,
but controlling it
is even better. I'm
used to a Tesla (my
other car), so I am
quite spoiled. <br class="">
<br class="">
I did get Micheal's
firmware installed
on the OVMS and
hooked it up to the
car but it's not
booting properly
(based on status
LEDs). Can that be
because of the
firmware or is the
bootup sequence
separate from the
car-control code? <br class="">
<br class="">
The LEDs flash like
- 10 Green, 9 Green,
10 Green, 9 Green,
then a few reds,
then green and red
flash together
really fast. <br class="">
<br class="">
I tried sending text
messages to the
board and no dice. <br class="">
<br class="">
Any help would be
appreciated, looking
forward to getting
this working! <br class="">
<br class="">
Robert <br class="">
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