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    Hi guys,<br>
    <br>
    So I just went out to the car to turn it on with the OVMS module
    connected to see if that made a difference. As soon as I did so, a
    cooling fan came on at the front of the vehicle and the dashboard
    lit up with flashing lights and the message "Check vehicle EV
    system", and something like "Stop driving and verify power supply". 
    Worried that it was the OVMS causing that, I unplugged the OBDII
    plug and as soon as I did so, everything went back to normal.<br>
    <br>
    Has anyone else experienced this?<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2015 7:58 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson
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      Rob,
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      <div class="">My guess is that the car needs to be on (at least
        for a period of time) in order to get the data from OBDII. Once
        the car is turned off, the module should continue to know the
        last values, but the car probably needs to be turned on at some
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      <div class="">Regards, Mark.</div>
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                So I have the smartphone app connecting to "the car" and
                getting very limited info.  So far I can get the
                location of the car and the OVMS firmware version as
                2.8.1/KS0.2/V2.  I also get the GPS location.<br
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                However, I'm not getting any car specific information
                such as VIN (yes I sent the FEATURE 15 1 command), or
                state of charge.  Could that be a problem with the OVMS
                firmware that Michael and Geir wrote, or is it something
                else?<br class="">
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                I'm assuming that this works with the car completely off
                right?  The OBDII port definitely gets power, but I
                don't know if there is any other network traffic when
                it's off.<br class="">
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                Is there a way for me to tap into the <a
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                server with an API or something to see the raw
                information the modules are sending it?  How often do
                the modules update the server?<br class="">
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                Thanks, and sorry for all the noob questions.<br
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                Rob<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2015 5:23 PM,
                  Robert Cotran wrote:<br class="">
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                  I'm up and running!<br class="">
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                  The power is to the module is now stable, and I went
                  out and got a Rogers SIM (not a Bell SIM -- attention
                  Canadians, Bell SIMs do NOT work), and I can talk to
                  the car finally.<br class="">
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                  PHEW!<br class="">
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                  I got a data-only plan so SMSes are 15c each, so I
                  really want to figure out how to get data (GPRS)
                  communications working in an ad hoc way because I
                  can't rely on text messages -- too expensive.  I'll do
                  some reading about that.<br class="">
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                  Then I'll start testing out the Kia Soul EV specific
                  functionality.<br class="">
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                  Woohoo!  this is awesome!<br class="">
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                  Rob<br class="">
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                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/3/2015 2:48 PM,
                    Robert Cotran wrote:<br class="">
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                    OK so I had/have two problems:<br class="">
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                    1) the OVMS board had a bad connection on the ground
                    input, so power wasn't getting to the board properly
                    hence the weird flashing lights.  We fixed that with
                    a more solid ground connection soldered to a couple
                    pins.<br class="">
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                    2) the SIM card I'm using does NOT work with the
                    board.  I hooked up the diag port and it says "NOT
                    INSERTED" for CPIN.  With another cellular
                    provider's SIM, it did work.  So now I have to find
                    a way to get this happening.  I can only get cheap
                    data with my current provider, so I'm going to hunt
                    for an old SIM that might work.<br class="">
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                    So things are on pause until I'm able to do that...<br
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                    Rob<br class="">
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/2/2015 8:22 AM,
                      Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br class="">
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                      About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power
                      supply is fine.
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                                class=""> Hi all,<br class="">
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                                I will definitely hook up to the diag
                                port.  I do have a USB-serial cable. 
                                Thanks for that suggestion!<br class="">
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                                Does anyone know if one can power the
                                unit "on a bench" using a 12V adapter? 
                                I read that the OBDII port only gives
                                out a max of 100mA, is that true?  If it
                                is true, a small 12V adapter should be
                                fine...<br class="">
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                                Thanks!<br class="">
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                                Rob<br class="">
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                                  11/1/2015 9:25 PM, Mark Webb-Johnson
                                  wrote:<br class="">
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                                  The other thing to suggest is if you
                                  have a USB-serial cable and a laptop,
                                  you can plug into the DIAG port at
                                  9600baud, and have a look at the
                                  messages from the modem. That should
                                  tell you exactly what is going on. But
                                  if you count the blinks, and they go
                                  10 then 9 then reset then 10 then 9,
                                  it is most likely the SIM connection.
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                                            all again,<br class="">
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                                            I'm really not having any
                                            luck here.<br class="">
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                                            I've tried three different
                                            SIM cards now, and they all
                                            do exactly the same thing. 
                                            I haven't read anywhere
                                            about the red and green
                                            lights being on
                                            simultaneously and flashing
                                            like crazy so I'm really
                                            starting to suspect that the
                                            hardware is defective.  I
                                            wish I had another kit lying
                                            around.<br class="">
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                                            The kit I have is from my
                                            friend but it's brand new,
                                            it has never been used in a
                                            car before.<br class="">
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                                            I'm wondering if I should
                                            just order another kit to
                                            see if the same thing
                                            happens.<br class="">
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                                            I did have a question.  If I
                                            simply power the OBDII port
                                            on the kit with 12V, should
                                            it power up normally?  I
                                            could test that...<br
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                                            Geir, my car is in Canada,
                                            so I don't have UVO services
                                            unfortunately, hence the
                                            reason I'd really like to
                                            get this going!  I'm on the
                                            KIA Soul EV forums, and once
                                            I have this working, I'll
                                            try to rope in someone in
                                            the US who would be willing
                                            to monitor their CAN Bus so
                                            we can snoop and try to copy
                                            the HVAC calls.<br class="">
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                                            Rob<br class="">
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                                              11/1/2015 12:09 PM,
                                              Michael Balzer wrote:<br
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                                              Rob,<br class="">
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                                              green 8 + red 4 = SIM
                                              lock... I don't know how a
                                              phone could use a locked
                                              SIM for data, but just try
                                              setting and again removing
                                              the SIM lock with the SIM
                                              toolkit.<br class="">
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                                              Some (very few) SIMs just
                                              don't work in the OVMS,
                                              it's unlikely you stumbled
                                              across two of them.<br
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                                              I once had the effect of a
                                              flash process that failed
                                              without any error output,
                                              so you also should try
                                              re-flashing.<br class="">
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                                              Of course the hardware can
                                              be broken too, i.e. bad
                                              SIM slot soldering causing
                                              data errors or bad antenna
                                              connection. As your module
                                              has been used before (I
                                              assume?) that's quite
                                              unlikely.<br class="">
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                                              Regards,<br class="">
                                              Michael<br class="">
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                                                01.11.2015 um 17:40
                                                schrieb Robert Cotran:<br
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                                                Hi again,<br class="">
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                                                I tried the SIM card in
                                                a cell phone.  Worked
                                                perfectly, got data
                                                connection and was able
                                                to download data.<br
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                                                I doubt it's locked,
                                                it's brand new.  The
                                                phone didn't ask me for
                                                a code.<br class="">
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                                                I verified the antennas
                                                are plugged correctly.<br
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                                                Can the OVMS kit be
                                                defective?  Does that
                                                happen?<br class="">
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                                                Could the KIA firmware
                                                specifically have caused
                                                an issue?  Then again,
                                                Geir has it working no
                                                problem.<br class="">
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                                                :(<br class="">
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                                                Rob<br class="">
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                                                  11/1/2015 10:48 AM,
                                                  Michael Jochum wrote:<br
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                                                  Hi,
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                                                  <div class="">have you
                                                    tried the SIM Card
                                                    in an Cell Phone?
                                                    Did this work?</div>
                                                  <div class="">Is the
                                                    Card locked with a
                                                    Pin code? OVMS can't
                                                    handle PIN locked
                                                    cards.</div>
                                                  <div class="">Do you
                                                    connect the Antennas
                                                    to their right
                                                    plugs?</div>
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                                                  <div class="">Michael</div>
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                                                          all,<br
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                                                          I'm happy to
                                                          see that it
                                                          looks like
                                                          development of
                                                          the Kia Soul
                                                          EV firmware is
                                                          going to
                                                          continue,
                                                          thanks to
                                                          Micheal and
                                                          Geir!<br
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                                                          I went out and
                                                          bought a
                                                          dedicated SIM
                                                          for the OVMS
                                                          kit yesterday
                                                          and flashed
                                                          the OVMS with
                                                          0.2 of the Kia
                                                          Soul firmware
                                                          and I flashed
                                                          the EEPROM as
                                                          well since
                                                          this is a new
                                                          installation
                                                          and there's
                                                          nothing on the
                                                          kit yet.<br
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                                                          It's still not
                                                          working
                                                          unfortunately. 
                                                          When I plug it
                                                          into the car,
                                                          the red LED
                                                          comes on for a
                                                          few seconds,
                                                          then the red
                                                          and green
                                                          flash a bit,
                                                          and then they
                                                          both stay off
                                                          for about
                                                          10-15 seconds,
                                                          then the green
                                                          flashes 10
                                                          times, then 9
                                                          times, then I
                                                          think 8 or 9
                                                          times, and
                                                          then the red
                                                          LED flashes a
                                                          few times
                                                          while the
                                                          green is
                                                          flashing, and
                                                          then then both
                                                          start to flash
                                                          on and off
                                                          extremely
                                                          fast, so fast
                                                          that it looks
                                                          like they are
                                                          both on
                                                          solid.  They
                                                          stay like this
                                                          for about 7 or
                                                          8 seconds, and
                                                          then it starts
                                                          all over again
                                                          from the 10, 9
                                                          on green.<br
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                                                          I've followed
                                                          the Roadster
                                                          guide to
                                                          getting this
                                                          up and
                                                          running, I've
                                                          cleaned the
                                                          SIM contacts
                                                          and I've tried
                                                          two different
                                                          SIM cards, so
                                                          I'm a bit lost
                                                          as to what I
                                                          can try next.<br
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                                                          Does anyone
                                                          have any
                                                          suggestions?<br
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                                                          Thanks!<br
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                                                          Rob<br
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                                                          5:20 PM,
                                                          Michael Balzer
                                                          wrote:<br
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                                                          Welcome Robert
                                                          :-)<br
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                                                          Basic setup of
                                                          the Kia
                                                          firmware is
                                                          the same as
                                                          for other
                                                          models. So you
                                                          can follow the
                                                          Roadster guide
                                                          or one of the
                                                          Twizy guides
                                                          first.<br
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                                                          You wrote to
                                                          me you got the
                                                          module from a
                                                          friend, so you
                                                          should first
                                                          flash once
                                                          without
                                                          preserving
                                                          EEPROM to get
                                                          a clean config
                                                          to start with.<br
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                                                          Follow Marks
                                                          link to the
                                                          support FAQ if
                                                          you get stuck
                                                          in the config
                                                          process. To
                                                          diag LED flash
                                                          codes, also
                                                          take a look at
                                                          the state
                                                          machine
                                                          diagram in the
                                                          main docs
                                                          folder. If you
                                                          need help,
                                                          describe
                                                          exactly (!)
                                                          which doc
                                                          you've been
                                                          following and
                                                          what you have
                                                          done so far.<br
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                                                          If you're
                                                          stuck at
                                                          10/9... maybe
                                                          you should
                                                          first check if
                                                          the SIM card
                                                          has contact.<br
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                                                          Kia V0.1 only
                                                          reads some
                                                          first status
                                                          messages and
                                                          obtains the
                                                          VIN if you
                                                          enable CAN
                                                          write access
                                                          (FEATURE 15
                                                          1). I've
                                                          currently got
                                                          one positive
                                                          and one
                                                          negative test
                                                          feedback for
                                                          this version.<br
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                                                          Would be great
                                                          if you could
                                                          also check
                                                          V0.2 -- it's
                                                          in my account
                                                          on github:<br
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                                                          ...hex:<br
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                                                          This _should_
                                                          be able to
                                                          show some
                                                          first OBD diag
                                                          data dumps
                                                          (DEBUG 1 /
                                                          5)... as I
                                                          don't have a
                                                          Kia, I need
                                                          qualified beta
                                                          test feedback.<br
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                                                          Regards,<br
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                                                          14:16 schrieb
                                                          Robert Cotran:<br
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                                                          all, <br
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                                                          I'm replying
                                                          to Micheal
                                                          Balzer's email
                                                          from
                                                          yesterday.  I
                                                          wasn't on the
                                                          mailing list
                                                          until late
                                                          yesterday
                                                          afternoon,
                                                          hence I'm not
                                                          able to click
                                                          reply. <br
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                                                          I've got a Kia
                                                          Soul EV 2016
                                                          in Canada
                                                          which doesn't
                                                          have the UVO
                                                          services, so
                                                          this is of
                                                          great interest
                                                          to me. <br
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                                                          I have the
                                                          OVMS kit in
                                                          front of me,
                                                          but I'm a
                                                          total newbie,
                                                          so I'm reading
                                                          through some
                                                          guides to get
                                                          started. <br
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                                                          Just wanted to
                                                          say that I'll
                                                          gladly be the
                                                          guinea pig for
                                                          this. <br
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                                                          What I'd
                                                          REALLY like is
                                                          to have a way
                                                          to remotely
                                                          turn on the
                                                          climate
                                                          control system
                                                          to warm
                                                          up/cool down
                                                          the car at
                                                          will.
                                                          Hopefully
                                                          that's a
                                                          remote
                                                          possibility. 
                                                          Tracking it is
                                                          cool, but
                                                          controlling it
                                                          is even
                                                          better.  I'm
                                                          used to a
                                                          Tesla (my
                                                          other car), so
                                                          I am quite
                                                          spoiled. <br
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                                                          I did get
                                                          Micheal's
                                                          firmware
                                                          installed on
                                                          the OVMS and
                                                          hooked it up
                                                          to the car but
                                                          it's not
                                                          booting
                                                          properly
                                                          (based on
                                                          status LEDs). 
                                                          Can that be
                                                          because of the
                                                          firmware or is
                                                          the bootup
                                                          sequence
                                                          separate from
                                                          the
                                                          car-control
                                                          code? <br
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                                                          The LEDs flash
                                                          like - 10
                                                          Green, 9
                                                          Green, 10
                                                          Green, 9
                                                          Green, then a
                                                          few reds, then
                                                          green and red
                                                          flash together
                                                          really fast. <br
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                                                          I tried
                                                          sending text
                                                          messages to
                                                          the board and
                                                          no dice. <br
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                                                          Any help would
                                                          be
                                                          appreciated,
                                                          looking
                                                          forward to
                                                          getting this
                                                          working! <br
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