<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">About 200mA would be safest. A bench 12V power supply is fine.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, Mark</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2 Nov 2015, at 9:20 PM, Robert Cotran <<a href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca" class="">robert@cotran.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    Hi all,<br class="">
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    I will definitely hook up to the diag port.  I do have a USB-serial
    cable.  Thanks for that suggestion!<br class="">
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    Does anyone know if one can power the unit "on a bench" using a 12V
    adapter?  I read that the OBDII port only gives out a max of 100mA,
    is that true?  If it is true, a small 12V adapter should be fine...<br class="">
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    Thanks!<br class="">
    <br class="">
    Rob<br class="">
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      The other thing to suggest is if you have a USB-serial cable and a
      laptop, you can plug into the DIAG port at 9600baud, and have a
      look at the messages from the modem. That should tell you exactly
      what is going on. But if you count the blinks, and they go 10 then
      9 then reset then 10 then 9, it is most likely the SIM connection.
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                again,<br class="">
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                I'm really not having any luck here.<br class="">
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                I've tried three different SIM cards now, and they all
                do exactly the same thing.  I haven't read anywhere
                about the red and green lights being on simultaneously
                and flashing like crazy so I'm really starting to
                suspect that the hardware is defective.  I wish I had
                another kit lying around.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                The kit I have is from my friend but it's brand new, it
                has never been used in a car before.<br class="">
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                I'm wondering if I should just order another kit to see
                if the same thing happens.<br class="">
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                I did have a question.  If I simply power the OBDII port
                on the kit with 12V, should it power up normally?  I
                could test that...<br class="">
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                Geir, my car is in Canada, so I don't have UVO services
                unfortunately, hence the reason I'd really like to get
                this going!  I'm on the KIA Soul EV forums, and once I
                have this working, I'll try to rope in someone in the US
                who would be willing to monitor their CAN Bus so we can
                snoop and try to copy the HVAC calls.<br class="">
                <br class="">
                Rob<br class="">
                <br class="">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/2015 12:09 PM,
                  Michael Balzer wrote:<br class="">
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                  Rob,<br class="">
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                  green 8 + red 4 = SIM lock... I don't know how a phone
                  could use a locked SIM for data, but just try setting
                  and again removing the SIM lock with the SIM toolkit.<br class="">
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                  Some (very few) SIMs just don't work in the OVMS, it's
                  unlikely you stumbled across two of them.<br class="">
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                  I once had the effect of a flash process that failed
                  without any error output, so you also should try
                  re-flashing.<br class="">
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                  Of course the hardware can be broken too, i.e. bad SIM
                  slot soldering causing data errors or bad antenna
                  connection. As your module has been used before (I
                  assume?) that's quite unlikely.<br class="">
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                  Regards,<br class="">
                  Michael<br class="">
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                    Hi again,<br class="">
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                    I tried the SIM card in a cell phone.  Worked
                    perfectly, got data connection and was able to
                    download data.<br class="">
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                    I doubt it's locked, it's brand new.  The phone
                    didn't ask me for a code.<br class="">
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                    I verified the antennas are plugged correctly.<br class="">
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                    Can the OVMS kit be defective?  Does that happen?<br class="">
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                    Could the KIA firmware specifically have caused an
                    issue?  Then again, Geir has it working no problem.<br class="">
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                    :(<br class="">
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                    Rob<br class="">
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/2015 10:48 AM,
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                      <div class="">have you tried the SIM Card in an
                        Cell Phone? Did this work?</div>
                      <div class="">Is the Card locked with a Pin code?
                        OVMS can't handle PIN locked cards.</div>
                      <div class="">Do you connect the Antennas to their
                        right plugs?</div>
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                      <div class="">Bye</div>
                      <div class="">Michael</div>
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                              Robert Cotran <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:robert@cotran.ca">robert@cotran.ca</a>>:</div>
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                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""> Hi all,<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                I'm happy to see that it looks like
                                development of the Kia Soul EV firmware
                                is going to continue, thanks to Micheal
                                and Geir!<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                I went out and bought a dedicated SIM
                                for the OVMS kit yesterday and flashed
                                the OVMS with 0.2 of the Kia Soul
                                firmware and I flashed the EEPROM as
                                well since this is a new installation
                                and there's nothing on the kit yet.<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                It's still not working unfortunately. 
                                When I plug it into the car, the red LED
                                comes on for a few seconds, then the red
                                and green flash a bit, and then they
                                both stay off for about 10-15 seconds,
                                then the green flashes 10 times, then 9
                                times, then I think 8 or 9 times, and
                                then the red LED flashes a few times
                                while the green is flashing, and then
                                then both start to flash on and off
                                extremely fast, so fast that it looks
                                like they are both on solid.  They stay
                                like this for about 7 or 8 seconds, and
                                then it starts all over again from the
                                10, 9 on green.<br class="">
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                                I've followed the Roadster guide to
                                getting this up and running, I've
                                cleaned the SIM contacts and I've tried
                                two different SIM cards, so I'm a bit
                                lost as to what I can try next.<br class="">
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                                Does anyone have any suggestions?<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Thanks!<br class="">
                                <br class="">
                                Rob<br class="">
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                                  Welcome Robert :-)<br class="">
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                                  Basic setup of the Kia firmware is the
                                  same as for other models. So you can
                                  follow the Roadster guide or one of
                                  the Twizy guides first.<br class="">
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                                  You wrote to me you got the module
                                  from a friend, so you should first
                                  flash once without preserving EEPROM
                                  to get a clean config to start with.<br class="">
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                                  Follow Marks link to the support FAQ
                                  if you get stuck in the config
                                  process. To diag LED flash codes, also
                                  take a look at the state machine
                                  diagram in the main docs folder. If
                                  you need help, describe exactly (!)
                                  which doc you've been following and
                                  what you have done so far.<br class="">
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                                  If you're stuck at 10/9... maybe you
                                  should first check if the SIM card has
                                  contact.<br class="">
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                                  Kia V0.1 only reads some first status
                                  messages and obtains the VIN if you
                                  enable CAN write access (FEATURE 15
                                  1). I've currently got one positive
                                  and one negative test feedback for
                                  this version.<br class="">
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                                  Would be great if you could also check
                                  V0.2 -- it's in my account on github:<br class="">
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                                  ...hex:<br class="">
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                                  This _should_ be able to show some
                                  first OBD diag data dumps (DEBUG 1 /
                                  5)... as I don't have a Kia, I need
                                  qualified beta test feedback.<br class="">
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                                  Regards,<br class="">
                                  Michael<br class="">
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                                    31.10.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Robert
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                                    I'm replying to Micheal Balzer's
                                    email from yesterday.  I wasn't on
                                    the mailing list until late
                                    yesterday afternoon, hence I'm not
                                    able to click reply. <br class="">
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                                    I've got a Kia Soul EV 2016 in
                                    Canada which doesn't have the UVO
                                    services, so this is of great
                                    interest to me. <br class="">
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                                    I have the OVMS kit in front of me,
                                    but I'm a total newbie, so I'm
                                    reading through some guides to get
                                    started. <br class="">
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                                    Just wanted to say that I'll gladly
                                    be the guinea pig for this. <br class="">
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                                    What I'd REALLY like is to have a
                                    way to remotely turn on the climate
                                    control system to warm up/cool down
                                    the car at will. Hopefully that's a
                                    remote possibility.  Tracking it is
                                    cool, but controlling it is even
                                    better.  I'm used to a Tesla (my
                                    other car), so I am quite spoiled. <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    I did get Micheal's firmware
                                    installed on the OVMS and hooked it
                                    up to the car but it's not booting
                                    properly (based on status LEDs). 
                                    Can that be because of the firmware
                                    or is the bootup sequence separate
                                    from the car-control code? <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    The LEDs flash like - 10 Green, 9
                                    Green, 10 Green, 9 Green, then a few
                                    reds, then green and red flash
                                    together really fast. <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    I tried sending text messages to the
                                    board and no dice. <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Any help would be appreciated,
                                    looking forward to getting this
                                    working! <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Robert <br class="">
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