<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Giannis,<div><br></div><div>There is some information in github vehicle/CarModule. But, not for Twizy. Michael looks after that, and he is on this mailing list, so perhaps he can help if he knows any definitive list.</div><div><br></div><div>The other place to look is in the code. The Twizy module is vehicle_twizy.c in vehicle/OVMS.X.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards, Mark.</div><div><br><div><div>On 26 Jun, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Giannis Bakas wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you Mike, <br>
<br>
you helped me a lot. I don't know how involved you are in the
whole<br>
project but do you know if there exists an excel file with the IDs
and formulas to calculate the<br>
values come from the CAN bus of the vehicles supported by the
OVMS?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Giannis<br>
<br>
<br>
On 23/6/2013 15:58, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br>
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<div>Quite frankly, today a simple bluetooth ELM237 might be
easiest. The ELM chipset has a MA command that can just monitor
and output can bus messages.</div>
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<div>To use an OVMS module, it is tricky. You would have to modify
the board to cut the power to the modem and rearrange the tx and
rx lines on the modem.</div>
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<div>The DIAG mode is fine, but not really intended for what you
want. The timing to get into it is tricky, and once there you
have to take care to fight the modem and its responses.</div>
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<div>I have exactly the same problem as you - I want to use my
Parrot Asteroid as a display for my OVMS to allow access to all
sorts of real-time status from the car. To achieve that, though,
I'm having to work on getting bluetooth directly supported by
OVMS and/or a simple USB CAN bus board (my preference is the USB
solution). That means it is longer-term - not something we can
do today but probably within the next few months.</div>
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</div>
<div>Regards, Mark</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On 21 Jun, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Giannis Bakas <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:giannis.bakas@iccs.gr">giannis.bakas@iccs.gr</a>>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mark,<br>
<br>
I read in the OVMS_Development.pdf (git hub) this:<br>
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So you've got about 20 seconds after powering the module
/ reset to send the<br>
magic word. You may send the word as often as you want,
the module will<br>
normally respond to it after the first modem init (i.e.
after "Call Ready" / "GPS<br>
Ready"). If it does not, reboot.<br>
<br>
Once you're in DIAG mode, enter:<br>
• "HELP" to list available commands (also lists SMS and
MSG commands)<br>
• "DIAG" to see a short status overview<br>
• "S command" to execute an SMS command<br>
• "M command" to execute a MSG command<br>
<br>
In DIAG mode, all SMS and MSG outputs are sent to the
DIAG port instead of the<br>
GPRS network. MSG output will not be encrypted.<br>
<br>
and I thought that it was possible. I don't want the
modem but I am not a specialist<br>
in electronics and embeded systems. My first thought was
to use an ELM237 to get<br>
data from OBDII but I can not find the PIDs of Twizy and
I thought of using this interface<br>
like I would with ELM. Just send a command via bluetooth
and get back a response.<br>
<br>
Regards, Giannis<br>
<br>
PS: Thanks again for the support!<br>
<br>
On 21/6/2013 07:55, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br>
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<div>As the DIAG port is just a tap (not a separate
port), I don't think you will have much success just
spoofing commands into it.</div>
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<div>Do you need the modem? If not, you can wire up
instead of the modem and adjust firmware as necessary.</div>
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<div>Regard, Mark.</div>
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wrote:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thank you Mark for
your quick reply,<br>
<br>
I have made a connection (SPP) with a
bluetooth connected to my PC from parrot and
seems <br>
to work fine.<br>
<br>
My question was if DIAG port would work with a
bluetooth serial adapter. And working on DIAG<br>
MODE I can send SMS or MSG commands to get
data like SOC, speed, gps position.<br>
<br>
Cheers Giannis<br>
<br>
On 20/6/2013 11:56, Mark Webb-Johnson wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:3DA03B62-ADE4-429E-82C0-B347E37AEE9A@webb-johnson.net" type="cite">Giannis,
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<div>You are having the same problem as me -
we both have Parrots in our cars :-)</div>
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<div>Work I have done on this so far:</div>
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<li>I investigated USB serial adaptors to
the Parrot. The FTDI driver is in the
Parrot Android, but there are some
problems with loading it (you can hack
it from the adb shell, or from an App
with root access). Parrot themselves say
it is not yet supported, but planned for
future.<br>
<br>
</li>
<li>I investigated bluetooth. Prior to the
latest firmware it didn't work at all.
With the latest 2.1.1 firmware I have
had more success. I managed to get
bluetooth to my Pebble smartwatch
working (which means I can control
Parrot volume from my wrist), but so far
I haven't managed to get bluetooth SPP
working. It should work, so maybe just
me,<br>
<br>
</li>
<li>From the OVMS hardware point of view,
things are not so easy. The PIC18F is
very limited and it is hard to get extra
connections. It should be possible to
disconnect the connection to the modem
and instead go to a bluetooth module on
that single ASYNC port (both 5v and 3.3v
lines are available on the OVMS v2
board). I have heard, but not tried,
that it might be possible to get a
software async working on one of the
free I/O pins - low baud rate with no
flow control.<br>
<br>
</li>
<li>I am working on more sophisticated
hardware with 6 ASYNC ports and 2 CAN
buses! But, the bluetooth situation is a
mess at the moment (Android supports
bluetooth 2.2 but not BLE 4.0, and
iPhone supports BLE 4.0 but not
bluetooth 2.2 - good grief).</li>
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<div>If you don't need the modem, the easiest
would be to try to cut the RX+TX lines from
the PIC to the MODEM and use them for your
bluetooth module. The comms is at 9600 baud.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards, Mark.</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On 20 Jun, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Giannis
Bakas wrote:</div>
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<div>Hi all,<br>
<br>
is it possible to use a serial to
bluetooth dongle on the DIAG port of
the module<br>
to get data via bluetooth, requesting
data with "MSG commands"? What I want<br>
to do is to use OVMS like a bridge
between my car and my parrot device
(Android device)<br>
in order to visualize the data I get
to the screen. I want to avoid the SIM
card and to get<br>
data from the server.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Giannis<br>
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