[Ovmsdev] VW e-Up read/poll via OBD is working

Chris van der Meijden chris at arachnon.de
Thu Aug 13 02:24:13 HKT 2020


Sorry, I'm just not sure if we are talking about the same param ...
We now define VWUP.T26A like this
MyVehicleFactory.RegisterVehicle<VWeUpT26>("VWUP.T26", "VW e-Up
(Komfort CAN)");
Before the splitting we had ("VWUP", "VW e-Up") at RegisterVehicle. 
My question is do I need to change "VW e-Up" to "VW e-Up (Komfort
CAN)") in the upgrade function or is this done automaticly when I
change "VWUP" to "VWUP.T26".
Thanx
Chris
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 19:57 +0200 schrieb Michael Balzer:
>     Config → Vehicle → Vehicle name
> 
>     
> 
>     It doesn't have a technical use yet, it won't get filled
>     automatically. It's just a free vehicle name (as the placeholder
>     says).
> 
>     
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Michael
> 
>     
> 
>     Am 12.08.20 um 19:34 schrieb Chris van
>       der Meijden:
> 
>     
> 
>     
> >       
> >       Hey Michael
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Thanx.
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Does the human readable vehicle ID description ("VW e-Up
> >         (Komfort CAN)") matter at all, or will it be filled out
> >         automaticly by the new vehicle ID configuration? If not,
> > how do
> >         I set that param?
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Regards
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Chris
> >       
> > 
> >       
> >       Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2020, 19:18 +0200 schrieb Michael
> >         Balzer:
> >       
> > >  Chris,
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         yes, that would do. But…
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         a) you shouldn't overwrite the vehicle name, that's a
> > > user
> > >         configuration, and
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         b) if you would overwrite the vehicle name, you would set
> > > "name"
> > >         in "vehicle", not "vehicle.name" in "auto" (which doesn't
> > >         exist).
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Regards,
> > > 
> > >         Michael
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         Am 12.08.20 um 18:59 schrieb Chris
> > >           van der Meijden:
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > >           
> > > >           Hi Michael
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           I found some time for the "hanging upgrade" issue
> > > > since
> > > >             we splitted the vehicle ID from VWUP to VWUP.T26
> > > > and
> > > >             VWUP.OBD.
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Would this code in ovms_config.cpp within
> > > >             OvmsConfig::upgrade() prevent the "hanging" after
> > > > an
> > > >             upgrade?
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           // Migrate vehicle ID VWUP to VWUP.T26
> > > >           if (GetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type") == "VWUP")
> > > >              {
> > > >              SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.type", "VWUP.T26");
> > > >              SetParamValue("auto", "vehicle.name", "VW e-Up
> > > > (Komfort CAN)");
> > > >              }
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           If so, I would put that in a pull request as soon as
> > > > we
> > > >             have a new "release worthy" version?
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Thanx for checking.
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Greetinx
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Chris
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > >           Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 11:34 +0200 schrieb
> > > > Michael
> > > >             Balzer:
> > > >           
> > > > >  Chris,
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             the framework shouldn't get stuck if a vehicle
> > > > > cannot be
> > > > >             loaded, it should fall back to booting without a
> > > > > vehicle.
> > > > >             I'll have a look at that.
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Btw, to automatically update user configurations,
> > > > > you can
> > > > >             extend OvmsConfig::upgrade(). Users shouldn't
> > > > > need to take
> > > > >             care of special update preparations.
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > > 
> > > > >             Am 31.07.20 um 11:05 schrieb
> > > > >               Chris van der Meijden:
> > > > > 
> > > > >             
> > > > >             
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Welcome to my trial and error T26A world :-))
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               This morning I flashed the new T26A/OBD
> > > > > > version to my
> > > > > >                 OVMS. After the OTA flash the device did
> > > > > > not come back
> > > > > >                 to the networks. Only USB terminal access
> > > > > > was left.
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               The reason was, that I did no remove the old
> > > > > > vehicle
> > > > > >                 config "VWUP" before flashing and
> > > > > > rebooting. The new
> > > > > >                 image has "VWUP.T26" and "VWUP.OBD" as
> > > > > > vehicle config,
> > > > > >                 but no more "VWUP". So the device could not
> > > > > > find its
> > > > > >                 vehicle config and got stuck.
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               From the USB terminal I bootet back to OTA_0,
> > > > > > said in
> > > > > >                 the vehicle config that my vehicle was a
> > > > > > Nissan Leaf and
> > > > > >                 then booted back to OTA_1. The device came
> > > > > > up with the
> > > > > >                 new firmware and I could change the vehicle
> > > > > > config to
> > > > > >                 "VWUP (Komfort CAN)".
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Everything is now running fine ...
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               I will write this down in the documentation
> > > > > > for the
> > > > > >                 e-Up.
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Greetinx
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Chris
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >               
> > > > > >               Am Freitag, den 31.07.2020, 09:50 +0200
> > > > > > schrieb
> > > > > >                 Michael Balzer:
> > > > > >               
> > > > > > >  Soko,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 you only had the door open, but not
> > > > > > > turned on the car?
> > > > > > >                 If there are additional buses, they may
> > > > > > > be switched off
> > > > > > >                 until the car is turned on…
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 The OBD connector scheme is the general
> > > > > > > pin assignment,
> > > > > > >                 I meant the specific VW e-Up schematics.
> > > > > > > But if you
> > > > > > >                 don't see any voltages with the car
> > > > > > > turned on, that's
> > > > > > >                 bad news.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 There may still be some command interface
> > > > > > > for the OBD
> > > > > > >                 gateway to enable live data, but without
> > > > > > > any info about
> > > > > > >                 the gateway, it will be hard to even find
> > > > > > > out how to
> > > > > > >                 address it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 Am 31.07.20 um 09:06
> > > > > > >                   schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > >                 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   Hey guys,
> > > > > > > >                   If I did nothing wrong I have bad
> > > > > > > > news:
> > > > > > > >                   @Michael:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                     With OBD port schematics I think
> > > > > > > > you mean this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-board_di
> > > > > > > > agnostics#OBD-II_diagnostic_connector
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                     Specifically if there are some
> > > > > > > > other pins used than
> > > > > > > >                     the standard CAN pins 6 and 14.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                     So I had the drivers door open, no
> > > > > > > > key in ignition
> > > > > > > >                     and measured the voltages of all
> > > > > > > > pins in relation to
> > > > > > > >                     pin 5 (signal ground). There is no
> > > > > > > > voltage on any
> > > > > > > >                     pin besides 2.5V on 6 and 14, and
> > > > > > > > 12V on 16 of
> > > > > > > >                     course. So there are no hidden CAN
> > > > > > > > buses (or any
> > > > > > > >                     other signals) afaict.
> > > > > > > >                   @Mark:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                     Thanks for the hint with the can
> > > > > > > > log. It's way
> > > > > > > >                     easier than RE Tools for just
> > > > > > > > checking if there is
> > > > > > > >                     any traffic.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                     Having said that... there is no
> > > > > > > > traffic whatsoever
> > > > > > > >                     besides what I am polling and the
> > > > > > > > reply. Even when
> > > > > > > >                     ignition is on I only see the poll
> > > > > > > > and the reply on
> > > > > > > >                     the can log
> > > > > > > >                   So it seems devmarxx was right: The
> > > > > > > > gateway shields
> > > > > > > >                     everything and there are even no
> > > > > > > > other hidden
> > > > > > > >                     signals on the OBD port.
> > > > > > > >                   I'm happy to try any other ideas you
> > > > > > > > guys have.
> > > > > > > >                     Just let me know!
> > > > > > > >                   Soko
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   On 31.07.2020 02:11, Mark
> > > > > > > >                     Webb-Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > >                   
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     If you are just looking for
> > > > > > > > > traffic on the CAN bus,
> > > > > > > > >                     a simple can log would be the
> > > > > > > > > easiest. Assuming you
> > > > > > > > >                     are on USB console, it is:
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       OVMS# log level verbose
> > > > > > > > >                         canlog-monitor
> > > > > > > > >                       OVMS# can log start monitor
> > > > > > > > > crtd
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       If you are using ssh, you need
> > > > > > > > > to add a:
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         OVMS# log monitor yes
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       To stop the logging:
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         OVMS# can log stop
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       Documentation here:
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         https://docs.openvehicles.com
> > > > > > > > > /en/latest/crtd/can_logging.html
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                           For my work, I personally
> > > > > > > > > prefer this
> > > > > > > > >                             arrangement:
> > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                           OVMS# can log start
> > > > > > > > > tcpserver transmit
> > > > > > > > >                             gvret-b :23
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                         And then I use SavvyCAN on a
> > > > > > > > >                           laptop to connect over wifi
> > > > > > > > > and work.
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       Regarding the ‘re’ system, it
> > > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > >                         work-in-progress, and not
> > > > > > > > > currently documented.
> > > > > > > > >                         It is still kind of a mess at
> > > > > > > > > the moment
> > > > > > > > >                         (particularly for multiplexed
> > > > > > > > > message IDs), as I
> > > > > > > > >                         continue to work on DBC
> > > > > > > > > integration. That said,
> > > > > > > > >                         it is basically functional.
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     To start it:
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         OVMS# re start
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       To stop it:
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         OVMS# re stop
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       To see discovered IDs:
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                         OVMS# re list
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       It will (by default) listen on
> > > > > > > > > all open CAN
> > > > > > > > >                         buses, and show you the
> > > > > > > > > discovered ID, message
> > > > > > > > >                         count, interval (in ms), and
> > > > > > > > > last message seen.
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                       It has some rudimentary ability
> > > > > > > > > to monitor
> > > > > > > > >                         active polling protocols with
> > > > > > > > > ‘re obdii extended
> > > > > > > > >                         <min> <max>’ (or standard),
> > > > > > > > >                         specifying the range of IDs
> > > > > > > > > used by the ECUs.
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                     
> > > > > > > > >                       Regards, Mark
> > > > > > > > >                       
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                         
> > > > > > > > > >                           On 30 Jul 2020, at 11:56
> > > > > > > > > > PM,
> > > > > > > > > >                             Soko <ovms at soko.cc>
> > > > > > > > > >                             wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >                           
> > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > > > >                               @devmarxx: Is there
> > > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > >                                 doc/guide on how to
> > > > > > > > > > use this RE Tools?
> > > > > > > > > >                               @Michael: Yeah, I
> > > > > > > > > > know. You
> > > > > > > > > >                                 would have done my
> > > > > > > > > > 1-day work in 5 mins.
> > > > > > > > > >                                 I know C++ but I
> > > > > > > > > > don't know the OVMS
> > > > > > > > > >                                 framework. But its
> > > > > > > > > > like with any
> > > > > > > > > >                                 project: The issue
> > > > > > > > > > is not the language,
> > > > > > > > > >                                 its the framework.
> > > > > > > > > >                               Until you have yours
> > > > > > > > > > you have
> > > > > > > > > >                                 to settle with me
> > > > > > > > > > unfortunately ;)
> > > > > > > > > >                               My cousin has a
> > > > > > > > > > working VCDS
> > > > > > > > > >                                 HEX interface and I
> > > > > > > > > > have an y-adapter so
> > > > > > > > > >                                 I can listen with
> > > > > > > > > > an ELM327 adapter to
> > > > > > > > > >                                 the commands VCDS
> > > > > > > > > > is sending. Maybe I
> > > > > > > > > >                                 can find any car
> > > > > > > > > > status there. Device 09
> > > > > > > > > >                                 is a good hint. 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > >                               But as you said: I
> > > > > > > > > > have still
> > > > > > > > > >                                 have to poll this,
> > > > > > > > > > even if I find a
> > > > > > > > > >                                 status.
> > > > > > > > > >                               I can't say (of
> > > > > > > > > > course) if
> > > > > > > > > >                                 there's another CAN
> > > > > > > > > > bus @ OBD port. All
> > > > > > > > > >                                 this CAN/OBD/Bus
> > > > > > > > > > stuff is completely new
> > > > > > > > > >                                 to me.. ModBus
> > > > > > > > > > RTU/TCP, MBus etc. I
> > > > > > > > > >                                 would know ;)
> > > > > > > > > >                               So if you can point
> > > > > > > > > > me in any
> > > > > > > > > >                                 direction what to
> > > > > > > > > > try - or what you
> > > > > > > > > >                                 would do - I happy
> > > > > > > > > > to dig into it.
> > > > > > > > > >                               Soko
> > > > > > > > > >                               PS: Any idea when
> > > > > > > > > > you'll get
> > > > > > > > > >                                 your Mii?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > >                               On 30.07.2020
> > > > > > > > > >                                 17:14, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > Balzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > >                               
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 If only I had my
> > > > > > > > > > > Mii already…
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 If the OBD port
> > > > > > > > > > > is shielded from the CAN
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 traffic, you need
> > > > > > > > > > > to poll some device.
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 ECU = Engine
> > > > > > > > > > > Control Unit = device 01.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 I would suspect
> > > > > > > > > > > the basic car status
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 info to be
> > > > > > > > > > > available from device 09
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 (central
> > > > > > > > > > > electrics), but it seems no
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 PIDs have been
> > > > > > > > > > > RE'd from there yet. So
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 maybe you need to
> > > > > > > > > > > derive the info from
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 some other
> > > > > > > > > > > mode/status register.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 It's bad needing
> > > > > > > > > > > to continuosly poll to
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 get the live
> > > > > > > > > > > status data. Is possibly
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 another,
> > > > > > > > > > > unfiltered CAN bus available at
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 the OBD port?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 Am 30.07.20
> > > > > > > > > > >                                   um 16:43
> > > > > > > > > > > schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > >                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Ahhh OK, I've
> > > > > > > > > > > > found
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     OvmsVehicle
> > > > > > > > > > > > ::virtual void
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     TickerXXX(u
> > > > > > > > > > > > int32_t ticker);
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Got it!
> > > > > > > > > > > > This was exactly my issue as
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     I didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > know about any function
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     which gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > called regularly so I
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     could check
> > > > > > > > > > > > something like this...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     It's not an
> > > > > > > > > > > > ideal situation though:
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     I just can
> > > > > > > > > > > > slow down the poll after
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     my fail-
> > > > > > > > > > > > counter gets too high as I
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     need to
> > > > > > > > > > > > check when the car gets
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     powered
> > > > > > > > > > > > again. So all I can do is
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     polling,
> > > > > > > > > > > > lets say every 60 secs when
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     the car is
> > > > > > > > > > > > off, and increase it once
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     its on. But
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is now way around
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     this 60-sec 
> > > > > > > > > > > > polling if the only
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     thing I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > do is poll :(
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Afaik there
> > > > > > > > > > > > is only the
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     sharkcow's
> > > > > > > > > > > > list below, reverse
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     engineered
> > > > > > > > > > > > by him from ODBeleven.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   (dev)marxx
> > > > > > > > > > > > exlpained to
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     me: There
> > > > > > > > > > > > is a gateway between the
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     CAN-Buses
> > > > > > > > > > > > and the OBD Connector in
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     all VW-AG
> > > > > > > > > > > > vehicles which only
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     replies to
> > > > > > > > > > > > polls and also acts as
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     security
> > > > > > > > > > > > gateway if you want to
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     write to
> > > > > > > > > > > > the buses.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   So I think I
> > > > > > > > > > > > cannot really
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     do a can
> > > > > > > > > > > > log or use re tool as the
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     OBD
> > > > > > > > > > > > interface stays quiet if I'm not
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     polling
> > > > > > > > > > > > it...
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   And as there
> > > > > > > > > > > > is no other
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     vehicle
> > > > > > > > > > > > from VW,Seat,Skoda,Audi,etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     in OVMS. So
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have no cheat-sheet :(
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Anyhow... I
> > > > > > > > > > > > would need to
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     poll one
> > > > > > > > > > > > ECU (is this the correct
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     therm?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > which doesn't shuts down...
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     or maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > the issue is the
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     OBD-gateway 
> > > > > > > > > > > > shutting down.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   What do you
> > > > > > > > > > > > think?
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   Soko
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   On
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     30.07.2020
> > > > > > > > > > > > 16:17, Michael Balzer
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                     wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > >                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Soko,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     nice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > progress :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     If you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can't detect vehicle state by
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     listening
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to regular status CAN
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     frames,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you can check the time since
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     the last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > poll reply in the per
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     second
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ticker.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     As poll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > replies normally come in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     fast, you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > should be able to detect a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     switch-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > off by a small timeout, say 3
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     seconds…
> > > > > > > > > > > > > probably need to add a
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     counter,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as a single poll may get
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     lost /
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ignored.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     CAN tx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > errors can be caused by other
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     issues as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > well, so should generally
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     not be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted that way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     But… are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you sure there are no
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     status
> > > > > > > > > > > > > frames on the bus? Have you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     done a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can log or tried the re tool?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     Am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       30.07.2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0 um 14:43 schrieb Soko:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Want
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to report success on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       conne
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cting and reading my VW e-Up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       via
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OBD cable using the Poller. As
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can see in the screenshot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > log attached I get an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Incom
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ingPollReply(..) call and an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       SoC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > value of 33.333% 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Once
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I turn of the ignition and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       lock
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the car though I don't get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > replies no more (line D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       79381
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) and then I get can1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       error
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s... I'm polling with 10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       secon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ds intervall. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know that this is as it should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       be...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but my issue is: I don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any way to know if the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       ignit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ion is on, the key is in, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       car
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is running, the car is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       charg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ing as the PIDs are not known
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > such values (afaik by the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       lists
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of sharkcow https://www.goingelectric.de/wi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ki/Liste-der-OBD2-Codes/).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       So
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what would be the best approach
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > change the different polling
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       state
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s? Can I somehow get called
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       (in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my vehicle-class) if an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       can-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > error is thrown? Then I would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       incre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ase the poll frequency. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggestions? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       thank
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > s 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       Soko 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                       
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